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Re: [Scam] Anthony Morrison/Hidden Millionaires Infomercial $4000 is a lot of money to not tell anyone upfront or when you show the commercials on tv. Why don't they ever tell you that it costs that much when they advertise. All the people on the commercial are fake, I just cant believe they do this junk |
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I think the plan does work. I had an internet business and spent a lot of time doing ads on Google and Yahoo, etc. It takes patience and perseverance. In fact, initially I worked 24/7 on it. My business required a lot of inventory, so I gave it up. I like Anthony's hands-free method--hands-free eventually. I also don't think it's an issue that you can't use credit card names in the ads. That's pretty much a given--that you can't use someone's proprietary name. If you did use Visa, for example, the searchers would get a whole lot of return on travel and passports. I didn't have the cash to sign up at the seminar because I'm unemployed at the moment, but am looking forward to doing so soon. |
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| I suspected Morrison would be attempting to put water on this little fire by mentioning this thread at his seminars and doing what he does best: Talking his way out of trouble.
The problem is not the idea behind the system. The idea is one that obviously makes sense and does work very well for some. Just like any other good scam (or lie), there has to be a measure of truth in it in order to make it believable enough to sell.
Personally, I'm glad to see him advertising this thread himself because now I fully expect to start seeing posts from people he schmoozed into trusting him despite what they read about him on forums such as this one and they're not going to be happy. It's only a matter of time.
(By the way, jb, it's worse than you think. The system is officially priced on the website at 6k. Morrison advertises it on the road at the "discounted price" of 4k.) |
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Then you need to take another hard look. The plan that appears to work, is the one in which you pay $4000 for the privilege of becoming a Morrison contractor and spending more money trying to get referrals for him.
said by banyontrees:....I had an internet business and spent a lot of time doing ads on Google and Yahoo, etc. It takes patience and perseverance. In fact, initially I worked 24/7 on it. My business required a lot of inventory, so I gave it up. This one may be even worse, since you will have to sink $4,000 in up front. The credit card referral business is old news, the market is saturated with thousands and thousands of sites. A Google quotation search of "credit card offers" generates 2.85 million returns.
»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2···ffers%22
Do you see any of Morrison's $4000 affiliates in the first two pages.?
Take a survey, ask any of your friends relatives etc., if they currently use a credit card that they obtained by clicking on a referral link on the internet and applying. That should give you some idea.
said by banyontrees:...I like Anthony's hands-free method--hands-free eventually. I also don't think it's an issue that you can't use credit card names in the ads. That's pretty much a given--that you can't use someone's proprietary name. ... You will have to spend even more money to generate leads. It will take around 150 referrals that end in approved card applications, just to break even on you initial payment. How will you even get that many completed referral approvals without spending more money. You will be one of thousands and thousands of places all fighting for the same limited pool of people. Only a limited number of people use that method of applying for cards. They have to wade over the tons of junk card mail they already get at home.
said by banyontrees:...I didn't have the cash to sign up at the seminar because I'm unemployed at the moment, but am looking forward to doing so soon... That is one of the most disturbing aspects of the growing epidemic in this genre of internet business peddling. They are targeted to people who can probably least afford to buy in to the snake oil. Many of these newcomers may be retired, unemployed, and looking for a real primary source of income. They are not cyber knowledgeable enough to really understand what this is. Those with robust knowledge of the internet and cyberspace in general, see exactly what is really going on here.
Even if you do a cursory check of this saturated card referral market you will find that the going rate for an affiliated card referral site is "$0". In fact one of the more expensive ones runs around $99 plus $14 a month.
Look at one of Morrison's card recruiting sites:
»creditcardsystem.com
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The total amount billed will be $5524.95 + 29.95 for your first month of service for a total of $5554.9. A recurring charge for the $29.95 monthly fee will be made until the time you close your account.
Yes, I know the seminar sign ups are at a $1554 "savings".
Here is what the market is now at:
»www.cashflowfromcreditcards.com
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ONLY $99.95 + $9.99/month for 14-page credit card site + MORE...
I endorse neither, just showing comparative examples of where the market valuation is at. There are many free ones as well.
This growing whole life coaching, upselling, google adsense, affiliate marketing, is clearly aimed at the least knowledgeable arrivals to the internet, who know little about how such businesses function, and their relative worth.
What is most obnoxious about this topic is the fact of the prolific use of the term "Hidden Millionaires". Clearly meant to imply a distorted opportunity. The common and frequent use of catch phrases such as "You are only limited by your own ability or motivation to succeed" should be evaluated in the context of the task. Perseverance and motivation may not make any difference if you are trying to climb up a greased pole, the outcome may still be the same regardless of the fervour.
Many of these current internet businesses, marketing, road to becoming a millionaire, have the same benevolent marketing themes. I was poor, now I am rich, Now I feel obligated to help you be that way too. That is a euphemism for my operation is saturated and I can make far more money selling the idea to you, than I can by doing it myself.
Part of what brings ridicule in this forum to this genre of "Hidden Millionaires" internet business opportunities, are who they target. Morrison is just one of many peddlers in this current epidemic, in fact he is late to the market, though his targeted audience may be new.
Just look at another one his recent money making business opportunities:
Entrepreneurial Prodigy Anthony Morrison Unveils Secrets To Successful Internet Domain Name Investing
Madison, MS (PRWEB) June 27, 2008 -- His success, born out of hard work and a determination to help his family when it needed him most, made him a millionaire at the tender age of 23. And now, Anthony Morrison is turning his considerable talents to the task of teaching people how to profit from one of the most exciting marketplaces in America today: Internet domain names.
Thanks to a brand new video series and the launch of an online marketplace called InvestDomains.com, Anthony Morrison is revealing the secrets to successful Internet domain name investing. Each year, millions of dollars trade hands in the lucrative business of buying and selling domain names. Many of those names were purchased originally for twenty dollars or less. Best of all, the potential of this burgeoning field continues to grow unabated.
Business Wunderkind
The unveiling of InvestDomains.com is the latest achievement in the trajectory of one of America's most gifted young entrepreneurs. Anthony Morrison, now 25, has been making money through Internet-related businesses since the tender age of 13. It was during his junior year at Mississippi College, however, when a tragedy not only struck Morrison's family, but also forced a new direction in his young life........
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You have got to be kidding me !!! Please !! saturated market number two, especially for a newbie. What are the odds that a domain name available to register today that will be worth $$$$ to someone tomorrow. If you plan on entering this market by buying his "how to" dvds along with a monthly subscription, you will be at a distinct disadvantage to the domain front runners, automated script registrations etc etc.
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said by MGD:said by banyontrees:...I didn't have the cash to sign up at the seminar because I'm unemployed at the moment, but am looking forward to doing so soon... That is one of the most disturbing aspects of the growing epidemic in this genre of internet business peddling. They are targeted to people who can probably least afford to buy in to the snake oil. Many of these newcomers may be retired, unemployed, and looking for a real primary source of income. That really is the shame of the operation but people have a right to waste their money on worthless "systems".
I guess in some perverted way giving someone without hope a fleeting glance of what it feels like to have hope must be the justification for ripping them off.
said by MGD:Just look at another one his recent money making business opportunities: Entrepreneurial Prodigy Anthony Morrison Unveils Secrets To Successful Internet Domain Name Investing
Madison, MS (PRWEB) June 27, 2008 -- His success, born out of hard work and a determination to help his family when it needed him most, made him a millionaire at the tender age of 23. And now, Anthony Morrison is turning his considerable talents to the task of teaching people how to profit from one of the most exciting marketplaces in America today: Internet domain names. ...
. You have got to be kidding me !!! I almost choked when I saw that too. My personal thoughts on the matter are here.
»www2.dslreports.com/forum/r20768···omercial
To expand on those thoughts, why spend hundreds of dollars upfront to buy a "system" & then pay $29.95 per month to service the "system" when wikipedia gives everything you'll ever need to know about the domain name "system" for FREE?
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting
Cybersquatting
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Technical strategies for cybersquatters..."
I suppose in my own perverted way the more balls being juggled, the better. It's my experience that it's just a matter of time that anyone dancing that line drops one of them, allowing the regulatory/LE agencies to step in & exact some sense of justice. Generally speaking, the beauty of this is that the type of action most likely to occur when one of the juggling balls falls will be a civil action. Humans create penal actions, God created civil actions. Should one of those juggling balls fall or should have one already fallen, the target won't even become aware of any Government civil actions until after his assets have been placed out of his direct control. |
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Anthony Morrison has made money with this system. There's no doubt about that. The system though was NOT created by him. He is just running an affiliate program. You can save yourself a lot of money by buying your own credit card site from godaddy.com. Cost about $10.00. Host the site with a hosting company cost may range for $40-$120 per year. Develop the site yourself or hire someone to build you a credit card site. You can usually get one built for you for $150 to $400. Anthony is actually getting his credit card links through a company called www.commissionsoup.com, which is a credit card affiliate network. It cost nothing to join commissionsoup.com. All he is doing is running an affiliate network that charges people to join. Which is the first of it's kind. His creditcardsystem.com is connected to his personal account at commissionsoup.com which generates sub id tags under his affiliate id. So, that his how he gets paid when you get paid. He is making money off your hard work. Your better off starting the business up on your own. Anthony is not giving you a great deal. You can do this all on your own for less that $600.00. Then, all you would need to do from there is pay your annual renewal fee for the domain name which cost about $10.00/year at godaddy.com. He is making money hand over fist. He gets people to pay $4000 to begin then $29 or $30 a month, plus a percentage of what you make him off the commissions. This guy is bad news. Stay away. Im not sure that www.commissionsoup.com is aware of his scams. But, if you want to stop his operations, you need to file a complaint with www.commissionsoup.com. They can stop him by turning off his account. |
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Actually ALL affiliate programs run from either linkshare.com, cj.com, or some other major tracking network. CommissionSoup is no different. The account he has is verified and checked out with commissionsoup we checked before joining. He isn't running a scam. Everything is legit. You guys are just grasping at straws here. You can't get an entire affiliate network cut off because YOU think some wrong has been done, when you have no proof.
Sub affiliate networks exist all over the place.... there is no scam to that. |
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Interesting that you all want to start talking about scams, and government actions and all of these things.
This kid is doing nothing more than selling websites, and an account with his affiliate network. There is nothing at all illegal about that.
Affiliate marketing is a billion dollar a year industry. He sets up websites, and accounts (some of which you cant get on your own anyway) and you pay him for the website, account, and his time teaching you how to use everything.
There is nothing at all illegal about that. All claims of income made are proved at the seminar, and in other various places. Everyone knows there is alot of money in affiliate marketing, especially financial affiliate marketing.
I'm not saying I am going to join, mainly because I am not interested in marketing or advertising anything, but I am saying that it isn't illegal and you guys are taking this way to far. |
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This kid is doing nothing more than selling websites, and an account with his affiliate network. There is nothing at all illegal about that.
Sure, for $4,000 a pop! As said above, if you want to try your hand as a CC affiliate you can do that for almost free. The "education" you'll get for the four grand will be mostly talk about "don't let the naysayers get you down," and "here's another guy who now does this for four hours per week and lives like a king." Garbage.
What a pity, too, now that as the economy slows down Morrison is likely to harvest new victims that are freshly on the unemployment line. They think they can plow some of their savings into a "business" like this and stay on their feet.
Ain't going to happen, not this way. Better to invest in a coffee shop or hair salon than something like this. |
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I find it humorous that Morrison is obviously still posting to this forum long after he decided everyone here was just too ignorant to warrant anymore responses from him.
To "NotTrue" and "MyOpinions", you aren't fooling anyone. It has been shown here in more ways than one how Morrison is actively and intentionally misleading his audiences into buying a system which he KNOWS the vast majority of them will never make enough to reimburse their cost, much less make them a millionaire hidden or otherwise.
Go back and look at his testimonials. Are they all from Mississippi? Interestingly enough, he hasn't done any seminars in his own state, yet that seems to be where all of his prize pupils live. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that no matter how you look at it, Morrison is a con artist at BEST. Even if what he's doing isn't actually officially "illegal", it probably should be. You're making it a point to say it's not "ILLEGAL" in order to draw attention away from the glaring fact that what Morrison is doing is categorically unethical and immoral even if it doesn't happen to be technically "illegal".
People are losing a LOT of money so that he can profit from their misfortune. Illegal or not, what he's doing is beyond wrong. |
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said by MyOpinions :
Interesting that you all want to start talking about scams, and government actions and all of these things.
This kid is doing nothing more than selling websites, and an account with his affiliate network. There is nothing at all illegal about that.
It is illegal to sell business opportunities in the way which he does. You can't hold seminars and collect contracts and money. |
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Apparently my post got them exicited enough to make two post. Believe me, if enough people contact commissionsoup.com with legit complaints about his company, they will investigate it. Will they deactivate his account? maybe or maybe not. I don't think he wants to find out. |
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MyOpinions your statement about not being able to get some offers is NOT accurate. Anyone can get the same credit card offers that Morrison has on his credit card sites. All you need to do is create a credit card portal website, like the one's Morrison is running, then join commissionsoup.com for FREE, not $4000, and apply for the credit card offers. You are not be honest at all with people. It's not hard to get these offers. Listen people why go thru this guy to get the credit card offers? Just build you a credit card site and apply at commissionsoup.com for FREE. Morrison is nothing more than an affiliate of commissionsoup.com. His network runs off his commissionsoup.com account. He is trying to find ways to make him more money. This crap about trying to enrich others lives is just BS. He is trying to enrich his on wallet. Anyone who has to create a website to brag about giving to children for christmas is bogus too. Ok so one day out the year you give back. Great. What about the rest of us that give daily without having to tell the world about our great deeds? Anyone who has to build a website to brag about what he has done for the community really needs to get a life. You know Morrison there are 365 days in a year. And, you give on just 1 day. Wow!!! I'm thinking of making a list. Any complaints should be sent commissionsoup.com. Just visit their site and contact them by phone or email. If you really want to stop this person, you must let your voice be heard. |
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Re: [Scam] Anthony Morrison/Hidden Millionaires Infomercial said by TheBrother :
If it weren't for Anthony then I would probably still be broke, killing my brain cells playing xbox, and working for minimum wage at Best Buy. Nor would I have been able to afford college or have had the time to put in my studying. Do what I did ... get off your lazy butt and do something with your life!
You know what? How about you and the rest of you that are posting anonymously register for this site? Do you have something to hide (like, being one person posting under different ISPs to avoid detection?)
Come out of the shadows. Until you do, none of us on here are going to take your seriously. Post as an anonymous troll, and I guarantee you, the folks on this site will treat you like one.
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acadielPress fire to beginPremium
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kudos:1 | Well, looks like the trolls died off. Looks like a rat, smells like a rat, must be a rat.
I do think one of the anons wasn't a troll though - he/she probably had first hand experience as a client. I wonder how many people this guy has bilked out of $4000.
$4000 I'd pay for a good week-long motivational workshop (by someone like Dr. Zimmerman), but no way I'd spend $4000 to learn how to open up a Commission account on the web and work Ad Words. It smells like a MLM scam where only the people at the top get rich.
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| said by acadiel:Well, looks like the trolls died off. Their monitoring the thread on a daily basis. They figured out they were feeding themselves & backed off.
Wait until they realize the power of a forum *bump*. |
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