chronoss2008
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Welcome to the high expenses
ENJOY that next bill
im going to laugh my butt off as the guy downstairs gets a bill for internet and goes AHHHHHHHH!!
20-30GB?
are you serious do you get tv from bittorrent as i do, its easy for me to do 130-150GB a month JUST for me watching tv
now tell me with the above pricing what I would pay and why Rogers just started doing it self out of business
90 extra GB = 180 $ for a 7 megabit account
WTF
they just made bittorrent or the net UNFEASABLE to get movies or buy anything
SMART MOVE ROGERS
over price the per GB by a factor of 3
Why is it i can buy a business server with 3 terabytes of data for only 80-90USD/month ( 80-90 Canadian ) |
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Nightfall
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| said by chronoss2008  :Welcome to the high expenses ENJOY that next bill im going to laugh my butt off as the guy downstairs gets a bill for internet and goes AHHHHHHHH!! 20-30GB? are you serious do you get tv from bittorrent as i do, its easy for me to do 130-150GB a month JUST for me watching tv now tell me with the above pricing what I would pay and why Rogers just started doing it self out of business 90 extra GB = 180 $ for a 7 megabit account WTF they just made bittorrent or the net UNFEASABLE to get movies or buy anything SMART MOVE ROGERS over price the per GB by a factor of 3 Why is it i can buy a business server with 3 terabytes of data for only 80-90USD/month ( 80-90 Canadian ) Sounds like you should invest in cable TV and a DVR.  |
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TigerLord
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I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities! |
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adisor19
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| said by TigerLord :I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities! WRONG!
Downloading TV shows in Canada is perfectly LEGAL.
Adi |
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TigerLord
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Chicoutimi | He said movies. |
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greendragon
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| quote:
He said movies.
uh huh... Really? Is that all he said?
quote:
do you get tv from bittorrent as i do, its easy for me to do 130-150GB a month JUST for me watching tv
Oh and:
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I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities!
I download movies all the time from Cinemanow.com that I BOUGHT!
Stop being an ass. |
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Richard B
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| reply to Nightfall
Or be like me I buy the dvd set if I really like it I may keep it but most likely I resell it on eBay and get about %50 or more of the purchase price back. I advertise the fact this not a chines bootleg version this gives me a hug advantage. Use the money to buy another set new. I never buy DVD on eBay. |
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TigerLord
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| reply to greendragon
How am I being an ass? For weeks, if not months, stories have been popping up about tier packages, enforcing caps, both in the US and Canada.
He said he did 150GB of bittorenting TV shows. All standard encodes are 350MB, 720p ones, which I get, are 1.5GB. Even if did get only 720p HD encodes of legal tv shows recording, that's a 100 hows, or 25 per week. That's hardly believable.
Last week, on another story, someone said he was disgusted at Comcast wanting to enforce caps and it was not sufficient for him as he did 400GB+ per month, or people whining about the throttling.
Look at it from a business' point of view and you might understand the logistics and costs. Hop on the Tekksavvy forums, where almost all canadian heavy users now are, and R0cky explained how it worked. A user doing 500GB per month, be it legal or not, is not solvable for a company.
Why are you surprised? Rogers is simply jumping on the bandwagon and it won't stop there for other ISP. Let us not by hypocritical asses and pretend that "we can easily do 200GB in Linux distros downloading and what else". Anyone who did not see it coming was shortsighted.
We have to adapt. There is Tekksavvy for those who refuse to lower their downloading habbits. If like you you want to download your movies (legal or not) instead of buying them, you'll have to buy less per month or find an alternative.
That's the way it is, sorry to disappoint.
Am I going to judge people's downloading habits? No. Not so long ago I also downloaded 200GB per month. But the money we all save from P2P, setting the legal debate aside, I find it very ironic people DARE to whine at companies trying to enforce caps, which is extremely logic.
As long as they do not breach contracts or try to kill their competitors like Bell is doing, it's all fair game. |
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BF69
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| reply to chronoss2008
said by chronoss2008 :Welcome to the high expenses ENJOY that next bill im going to laugh my butt off as the guy downstairs gets a bill for internet and goes AHHHHHHHH!! 20-30GB? are you serious do you get tv from bittorrent as i do, its easy for me to do 130-150GB a month JUST for me watching tv now tell me with the above pricing what I would pay and why Rogers just started doing it self out of business If you're geting tv from bittorrent that you getting your TV illegally. I'm not sure why I should feel sorry for people that are doing illegal things.
90 extra GB = 180 $ for a 7 megabit account
WTF Pay for the 10 mbps tier and get an extra 35 GB, then each extra GB is $1.50 not $2. That would be $82.50 plus the cost differential between the 7 and 10 Mbps tiers. I don't know the cost difference.
they just made bittorrent or the net UNFEASABLE to get movies or buy anything
SMART MOVE ROGERS Actually it is because they do NOT want you using bittorrent. If you were actually getting your movies and tv shows from LEGAL sources such as Amazon or Apple or XBL I'd might have more sympathy. On the other hand oif you can afford to pay for $180 GB worth of content you can afford the overgae fees too.
All that aside I feel those caps are too low. WTF is the point of the ultra light tier? 2 GB then $5 overage?
Why is it i can buy a business server with 3 terabytes of data for only 80-90USD/month ( 80-90 Canadian )
because it's BUSINESS account. You can get one of those if you like. |
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BF69
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| reply to greendragon
said by greendragon :I download movies all the time from Cinemanow.com that I BOUGHT! Stop being an ass. I didn't know cinemanow.com make you use bittorent to download it's movies. |
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funchords
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| reply to TigerLord
said by TigerLord :I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities! That's quite an assumption.
I guess someone has to drink the Kool-Aid.
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funchords
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said by BF69 :]If you're geting tv from bittorrent that you getting your TV illegally. I'm not sure why I should feel sorry for people that are doing illegal things. Hardly! There is plenty of free TV to be had legally on BitTorrent. It depends on the IP rights ownership and licensing.
Because of the cost of bandwidth, if it's free and legal, it's most likely going to be on BitTorrent (or some other P2P). Only the ad-supported stuff or subscription content is going to be found on commercial servers.
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greendragon
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| reply to BF69
He wasn't refering to using a torrent when he made that remark. He was talking about the amount you could download per month.
I don't think it is a bittorrent from cinemanow, but I could be wrong.
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Nightfall
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| reply to funchords
said by funchords :said by TigerLord :I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities! That's quite an assumption. I guess someone has to drink the Kool-Aid. Anyone downloading 130gb-150gb a month (via bittorrent) has to be downloading some illegal material. |
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greendragon
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| reply to TigerLord
This is why:
quote:
I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities!
I have a problem with statements like that.
Did you get a warning for flaming after posting your comment?
I understand the reasons behind the caps, but it does worry me. I don't have cable and instead have embraced "internet TV". I don't have to pretend to download linux distros while I'm dowloading/streaming content.
Good sites to look at:
Hulu.com
Netflix.com
revision3.com
dl.tv
cinemanow.com
joost.com (not my favorite)
abc.com, cwtv.com, nbc.com, etc.
Now, consider you have muliple people in one house hold doing the same thing I do. Useage will be huge without stealing.
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BF69
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| reply to greendragon
said by greendragon :He wasn't refering to using a torrent when he made that remark. He was talking about the amount you could download per month. I don't think it is a bittorrent from cinemanow, but I could be wrong. The point is if you LEGALLY ( meaning you PAY for them )download enough tv shows and movies to equal 130-150 GB a month you obviously make enough to pay for any overages. |
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BF69
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| reply to funchords
said by funchords :said by BF69 :]If you're geting tv from bittorrent that you getting your TV illegally. I'm not sure why I should feel sorry for people that are doing illegal things. Hardly! There is plenty of free TV to be had legally on BitTorrent. It depends on the IP rights ownership and licensing. Because of the cost of bandwidth, if it's free and legal, it's most likely going to be on BitTorrent (or some other P2P). Only the ad-supported stuff or subscription content is going to be found on commercial servers. Yeah right. Please provide examples. |
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| reply to greendragon
You are right that TV shows downloading is legal, at least here in Canada, and I even do it to get the HD episodes I do not get here in Canada! I average 50GB a month, with 7-8 shows a week, with 720p HD encodes. I'm not denying that.
But even then 150GB is a far stretch and the quality of episodes on sites like ABC, CTV, NBC, etc, the quality is around 500kbit/sec at those resolutions, you'd need even more than 200 viewings of shows like this to approach the 150GB mark.
I have to say though, I find encouraging those kind of DRM-media distribution sites is a worse offense on the moral code than downloading tv shows, even movies. |
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greendragon
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I think that is an unfair remark. There are plenty of free streaming sites. Just because you can afford one thing doesn't mean you can afford another.
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