GroovyPhoenx
join:2006-05-22
Gloucester, ON
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to chronoss2008
Re: haha
The OP forgot to mention that most of those overages are CAPPED at 25$ maximum unless you have 2 price tiers that are grandfathered at 60gb for ultra light (no cap for price) etc... Full details would have helped this.
I do some downloading, online gaming and my kids download music.
We rarely hit over 30-40gb, but its also one reason why they are doing it, etra revenue, and extra funds and hopefully to discourage some (not calling you one) banwidth hogs. |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs:
| reply to TigerLord
Joost is p2p tv fyi. VEOH is another online tv. All use a lot of bandwidth and are fully compliant. What needs to be watched is the emails and forced data usage from the provider. All email, and traffic from the isp needs to not be charged otherwise i see a lawsuit coming on here.
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greendragon
Premium
join:2003-09-20
Stewartville, MN
| reply to TigerLord
I see what you are saying as far as 150GB being a stretch for most people. However, you should consider the internet TV migration in its infancy. In another 1-2 these caps will seem smothering to a lot more people.
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal
·Videotron
Host:
International Broa..
Videotron
| That I completely agree with.
Those caps aren't realistic for 15mbit connections.
The future lies in broadband media distribution. Hopefully soon we will be able to download DRM-free Bluray movies.
Things will need to change a lot before that happens! |
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backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2 | reply to Nightfall
care to put your money where your mouth is? |
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jjaromin
join:2004-09-30
Chesterfield, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to BF69
Extremely unfair. I have DirecTV which is using your broadband connection for VOD programming. I download several free HD movies a month using this service, as well as alot more SD programming. I have 3 DVRs that are utilized by different people throughout the house with their own content and tastes. This is all legal content that could easily surpass most proposed limits that cable companies are talking about. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
 ·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to backness
said by backness  :care to put your money where your mouth is? What money? Where did I mention money or a bet? Oh, thats right, I didn't. |
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pfak
Premium
join:2002-12-29
Canada
·Shaw
 ·Novus Entertainmen..
| reply to TigerLord
How is TV show downloading legal in Canada? There is no exemption for format or time shifting in the Canadian Copyright Act, nor is there a levy that pays production companies.
Our exemptions only apply to Music at best.
Please provide me a link or some kind of reference to prove otherwise. |
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal
·Videotron
Host:
International Broa..
Videotron
| You are allowed to digitally record something on a PVR.
You are allowed to digitally record something on a DVD using DVD Recorder for TV.
You are allowed to pass on that DVD to friends or acquaintances for their viewing pleasure, as long as you do not charge them for it.
So how is sharing it online any different from the above? |
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pfak
Premium
join:2002-12-29
Canada
·Shaw
·Novus Entertainmen..
| said by TigerLord :You are allowed to digitally record something on a PVR. You are allowed to digitally record something on a DVD using DVD Recorder for TV. Really, where? There are no fair use provisions in our current copyright act. |
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal | So because it is no covered in the act it's illegal?
It's a gray area if anything. |
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pfak
Premium
join:2002-12-29
Canada
·Shaw
·Novus Entertainmen..
| said by TigerLord :So because it is no covered in the act it's illegal? It's a gray area if anything. No, it's really not a gray area. It's called copyright infringement. Just because nobody has been prosecuted doesn't make it legal. |
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal
1 edit | So why do they allow the sale of PVR and DVD Recording machines in Canada then?
So all the people who taped shows to a VHS all those years were infringing on the copyrights of the shows? |
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MicaTurbo
join:2001-08-27
Ottawa, ON
| reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall :said by backness :care to put your money where your mouth is? What money? Where did I mention money or a bet? Oh, thats right, I didn't. Umm..he never said you mentioned money. He implied that you are spewing bs out of your mouth (or i guess ur fingers :P), and asking you if you'd like to back up your statement with cash..as in a bet.. |
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backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2 | reply to Nightfall
then shut up.
Don't comment on others download habbits, it's not polite. |
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mordin
42 inches of 1080p
Premium
join:2005-05-28
Moncton, NB
| reply to pfak
said by pfak :How is TV show downloading legal in Canada? There is no exemption for format or time shifting in the Canadian Copyright Act, nor is there a levy that pays production companies. We pay a levy on ALL recordable media, blank CDs, DVDs, tapes etc. The music industry in Canada went to court to try and get judgements like in the states. The court ruled that since they got the government to impose the levy they were being compensated for music downloads and couldn't go after downloaders. The ruling covers downloading music. Movies & TV shows became a gray area that got lumped in as 'sort of' included. As of yet, no one has tried to test it in a Canadian court to get it overturned. As it stands about the only ones the police will go after is major bootleggers mass producing & selling their copies.
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deltasigma
@teksavvy.com | reply to TigerLord
Four-person family, all with different tastes. That sound like a more reasonable reason to consume that much bandwidth?
That's what we've got here. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to greendragon
said by greendragon :I think that is an unfair remark. There are plenty of free streaming sites. Just because you can afford one thing doesn't mean you can afford another. He said he DOWNLOADED 130-150 GB a month he didn't say he STREAMED 130-150 GB worth of content. If people are going to talk about stuff they really to use the correct terminology. Streams from FREE site typically aren't over 1.5 Mbps so he'd have to stream 7 hours a day. Man he has a a lot of free time. Also if I was streaming TV 7 hours a day why even bother having cable? |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to jjaromin
said by jjaromin :Extremely unfair. I have DirecTV which is using your broadband connection for VOD programming. I download several free HD movies a month using this service, as well as alot more SD programming. I have 3 DVRs that are utilized by different people throughout the house with their own content and tastes. This is all legal content that could easily surpass most proposed limits that cable companies are talking about. Well DirectTv better find another way to handle VOD or strike a deal with ISPs. It's a simple as that. Oh here's a solution, it's called TWO WAY satelite. |
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greendragon
Premium
join:2003-09-20
Stewartville, MN
| reply to BF69
Streaming or downloading is the same, at least as it pertains to this discussion. You are using bandwidth either way.
I don't think the OP mentioned if he had cable or not, but I for one do not. while I do not stream 7 hours a day, I can certainly see reaching the cap with multiple people using 1 connection the same as I do.
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