Re: haha in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20614947 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:42:57 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:42:57 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20645575 BarterFrost :
said by BF69 See Profile :

Yeah right. Please provide examples.
I get almost all of my shows from revision3.org.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20645575 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:40:08 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20643249 jonnyz :
said by pfak See Profile :

said by davidbrown See Profile :

If there is no law against something its not illegal and only becomes illegal if a law against it is made.

Its the reason no one has been prosecuted.
The thing is, there is a law against it. You are not permitted to redistribute copyrighted works without written permission of the copyright holder.

There is an exemption for Music, there is no exemption for TV shows or Movies.
You missed a part - you need written consent if it involves public viewing, multiple copies/mass distribution, or any monetary gain. If it is only for personal use, you're fine. As for sharing it, you must have never lent anything to anybody in your life, because there's nothing wrong with that in my eyes.
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said by pfak See Profile :

said by davidbrown See Profile :

If there is no law against something its not illegal and only becomes illegal if a law against it is made.

Its the reason no one has been prosecuted.
The thing is, there is a law against it. You are not permitted to redistribute copyrighted works without written permission of the copyright holder.

There is an exemption for Music, there is no exemption for TV shows or Movies.
Ohh you mean the one were the broadcasting rights belong to owners in the states?

Bell actually owns none of the programing rights and the same goes for rogers.

Its actually their own fault in how they worded it and none of our present copyright laws cover the present state of things.

Its the same basic problem that happened with small amounts of weed sometime back, thanks to the goverments foolishness we ended up with no law that covered things.

Not to say local broadcasts aren't covered but for the most part they tend to be free anyway.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20619206 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:04:35 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20618967 pfak :
said by davidbrown See Profile :

If there is no law against something its not illegal and only becomes illegal if a law against it is made.

Its the reason no one has been prosecuted.
The thing is, there is a law against it. You are not permitted to redistribute copyrighted works without written permission of the copyright holder.

There is an exemption for Music, there is no exemption for TV shows or Movies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20618967 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:38:15 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20618684 BF69 :
said by greendragon See Profile :

Streaming or downloading is the same, at least as it pertains to this discussion. You are using bandwidth either way.
Sure, but if you download an episode of a show say from Amazon unbox that will use nearly twice the bandwidth as watching streamed version on cbs.com or wherever so it kind of matters.

Also I can see why someone who already paid for a show at Amazon then having to pay even more because of the bandwith would be mad. If you're watching shit for free from a website, well it's free.

I don't think the OP mentioned if he had cable or not, but I for one do not. while I do not stream 7 hours a day, I can certainly see reaching the cap with multiple people using 1 connection the same as I do.
I'm just saying if I'm watching that much TV online I'd save $60 a month and dump cable. That $60 could help pay for overage fees.

With multiple users it may be that you'd have to have multiple accounts. If my ISPs starting capping and in 3 years when my son is old enough to work if he just has to use so much we'd go over a cap he's just going to have to pay for his own connection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20618684 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:14:24 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617854 davidbrown :
said by pfak See Profile :

said by TigerLord See Profile :

So because it is no covered in the act it's illegal?

It's a gray area if anything.
No, it's really not a gray area. It's called copyright infringement. Just because nobody has been prosecuted doesn't make it legal.
LOL.

Your not grasping the concept here are you.

If there is no law against something its not illegal and only becomes illegal if a law against it is made.

Its the reason no one has been prosecuted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617854 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:25:23 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617800 greendragon : Streaming or downloading is the same, at least as it pertains to this discussion. You are using bandwidth either way.

I don't think the OP mentioned if he had cable or not, but I for one do not. while I do not stream 7 hours a day, I can certainly see reaching the cap with multiple people using 1 connection the same as I do.
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said by jjaromin See Profile :

Extremely unfair. I have DirecTV which is using your broadband connection for VOD programming. I download several free HD movies a month using this service, as well as alot more SD programming. I have 3 DVRs that are utilized by different people throughout the house with their own content and tastes. This is all legal content that could easily surpass most proposed limits that cable companies are talking about.
Well DirectTv better find another way to handle VOD or strike a deal with ISPs. It's a simple as that. Oh here's a solution, it's called TWO WAY satelite.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617693 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:58:12 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617677 BF69 :
said by greendragon See Profile :

I think that is an unfair remark. There are plenty of free streaming sites. Just because you can afford one thing doesn't mean you can afford another.
He said he DOWNLOADED 130-150 GB a month he didn't say he STREAMED 130-150 GB worth of content. If people are going to talk about stuff they really to use the correct terminology. Streams from FREE site typically aren't over 1.5 Mbps so he'd have to stream 7 hours a day. Man he has a a lot of free time. Also if I was streaming TV 7 hours a day why even bother having cable?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617677 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:55:40 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617475 anon : Four-person family, all with different tastes. That sound like a more reasonable reason to consume that much bandwidth?

That's what we've got here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617475 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:47:50 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617550 mordin :
said by pfak See Profile :

How is TV show downloading legal in Canada? There is no exemption for format or time shifting in the Canadian Copyright Act, nor is there a levy that pays production companies.
We pay a levy on ALL recordable media, blank CDs, DVDs, tapes etc. The music industry in Canada went to court to try and get judgements like in the states. The court ruled that since they got the government to impose the levy they were being compensated for music downloads and couldn't go after downloaders. The ruling covers downloading music. Movies & TV shows became a gray area that got lumped in as 'sort of' included. As of yet, no one has tried to test it in a Canadian court to get it overturned. As it stands about the only ones the police will go after is major bootleggers mass producing & selling their copies.
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Don't comment on others download habbits, it's not polite.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617003 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:01:42 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617001 MicaTurbo :
said by Nightfall See Profile :

said by backness See Profile :

care to put your money where your mouth is?
What money? Where did I mention money or a bet? Oh, thats right, I didn't.
Umm..he never said you mentioned money. He implied that you are spewing bs out of your mouth (or i guess ur fingers :P), and asking you if you'd like to back up your statement with cash..as in a bet..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20617001 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:01:25 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616552 TigerLord : So why do they allow the sale of PVR and DVD Recording machines in Canada then?

So all the people who taped shows to a VHS all those years were infringing on the copyrights of the shows?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616552 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:42:29 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616541 pfak :
said by TigerLord See Profile :

So because it is no covered in the act it's illegal?

It's a gray area if anything.
No, it's really not a gray area. It's called copyright infringement. Just because nobody has been prosecuted doesn't make it legal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616541 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:41:21 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616531 TigerLord : So because it is no covered in the act it's illegal?

It's a gray area if anything.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616531 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:39:21 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616508 pfak :
said by TigerLord See Profile :

You are allowed to digitally record something on a PVR.
You are allowed to digitally record something on a DVD using DVD Recorder for TV.
Really, where? There are no fair use provisions in our current copyright act.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616508 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:34:03 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616407 TigerLord : You are allowed to digitally record something on a PVR.
You are allowed to digitally record something on a DVD using DVD Recorder for TV.

You are allowed to pass on that DVD to friends or acquaintances for their viewing pleasure, as long as you do not charge them for it.

So how is sharing it online any different from the above?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616407 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:15:30 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616366 pfak : How is TV show downloading legal in Canada? There is no exemption for format or time shifting in the Canadian Copyright Act, nor is there a levy that pays production companies.

Our exemptions only apply to Music at best.

Please provide me a link or some kind of reference to prove otherwise.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616366 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:08:44 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616198 Nightfall :
said by backness See Profile :

care to put your money where your mouth is?
What money? Where did I mention money or a bet? Oh, thats right, I didn't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616198 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:41:03 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616000 jjaromin : Extremely unfair. I have DirecTV which is using your broadband connection for VOD programming. I download several free HD movies a month using this service, as well as alot more SD programming. I have 3 DVRs that are utilized by different people throughout the house with their own content and tastes. This is all legal content that could easily surpass most proposed limits that cable companies are talking about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20616000 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:11:45 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615789 backness : care to put your money where your mouth is?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615789 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:42:26 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615630 TigerLord : That I completely agree with.

Those caps aren't realistic for 15mbit connections.

The future lies in broadband media distribution. Hopefully soon we will be able to download DRM-free Bluray movies.

Things will need to change a lot before that happens!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615630 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:19:29 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615621 greendragon : I see what you are saying as far as 150GB being a stretch for most people. However, you should consider the internet TV migration in its infancy. In another 1-2 these caps will seem smothering to a lot more people.
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I do some downloading, online gaming and my kids download music.

We rarely hit over 30-40gb, but its also one reason why they are doing it, etra revenue, and extra funds and hopefully to discourage some (not calling you one) banwidth hogs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615527 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:01:35 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615426 greendragon : I think that is an unfair remark. There are plenty of free streaming sites. Just because you can afford one thing doesn't mean you can afford another.
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But even then 150GB is a far stretch and the quality of episodes on sites like ABC, CTV, NBC, etc, the quality is around 500kbit/sec at those resolutions, you'd need even more than 200 viewings of shows like this to approach the 150GB mark.

I have to say though, I find encouraging those kind of DRM-media distribution sites is a worse offense on the moral code than downloading tv shows, even movies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615321 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:30:48 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615280 BF69 :
said by funchords See Profile :

said by BF69 See Profile :

]If you're geting tv from bittorrent that you getting your TV illegally. I'm not sure why I should feel sorry for people that are doing illegal things.
Hardly! There is plenty of free TV to be had legally on BitTorrent. It depends on the IP rights ownership and licensing.

Because of the cost of bandwidth, if it's free and legal, it's most likely going to be on BitTorrent (or some other P2P). Only the ad-supported stuff or subscription content is going to be found on commercial servers.
Yeah right. Please provide examples.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615280 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:24:34 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615257 BF69 :
said by greendragon See Profile :

He wasn't refering to using a torrent when he made that remark. He was talking about the amount you could download per month.

I don't think it is a bittorrent from cinemanow, but I could be wrong.
The point is if you LEGALLY ( meaning you PAY for them )download enough tv shows and movies to equal 130-150 GB a month you obviously make enough to pay for any overages.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615257 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:19:38 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615202 greendragon : This is why:

quote:
I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities!


I have a problem with statements like that.

Did you get a warning for flaming after posting your comment?

I understand the reasons behind the caps, but it does worry me. I don't have cable and instead have embraced "internet TV". I don't have to pretend to download linux distros while I'm dowloading/streaming content.

Good sites to look at:

Hulu.com
Netflix.com
revision3.com
dl.tv
cinemanow.com
joost.com (not my favorite)
abc.com, cwtv.com, nbc.com, etc.

Now, consider you have muliple people in one house hold doing the same thing I do. Useage will be huge without stealing.
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said by funchords See Profile :

said by TigerLord See Profile :

I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities!
That's quite an assumption.

I guess someone has to drink the Kool-Aid.
Anyone downloading 130gb-150gb a month (via bittorrent) has to be downloading some illegal material.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615188 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:07:26 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615155 greendragon : He wasn't refering to using a torrent when he made that remark. He was talking about the amount you could download per month.

I don't think it is a bittorrent from cinemanow, but I could be wrong.
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said by BF69 See Profile :

]If you're geting tv from bittorrent that you getting your TV illegally. I'm not sure why I should feel sorry for people that are doing illegal things.
Hardly! There is plenty of free TV to be had legally on BitTorrent. It depends on the IP rights ownership and licensing.

Because of the cost of bandwidth, if it's free and legal, it's most likely going to be on BitTorrent (or some other P2P). Only the ad-supported stuff or subscription content is going to be found on commercial servers.
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said by TigerLord See Profile :

I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities!
That's quite an assumption.

I guess someone has to drink the Kool-Aid.
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said by greendragon See Profile :

I download movies all the time from Cinemanow.com that I BOUGHT!

Stop being an ass.
I didn't know cinemanow.com make you use bittorent to download it's movies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20615082 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:45:14 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614991 BF69 :
said by chronoss2008 See Profile :

Welcome to the high expenses
ENJOY that next bill
im going to laugh my butt off as the guy downstairs gets a bill for internet and goes AHHHHHHHH!!
20-30GB?
are you serious do you get tv from bittorrent as i do, its easy for me to do 130-150GB a month JUST for me watching tv
now tell me with the above pricing what I would pay and why Rogers just started doing it self out of business
If you're geting tv from bittorrent that you getting your TV illegally. I'm not sure why I should feel sorry for people that are doing illegal things.

90 extra GB = 180 $ for a 7 megabit account
WTF
Pay for the 10 mbps tier and get an extra 35 GB, then each extra GB is $1.50 not $2. That would be $82.50 plus the cost differential between the 7 and 10 Mbps tiers. I don't know the cost difference.

they just made bittorrent or the net UNFEASABLE to get movies or buy anything
SMART MOVE ROGERS
Actually it is because they do NOT want you using bittorrent. If you were actually getting your movies and tv shows from LEGAL sources such as Amazon or Apple or XBL I'd might have more sympathy. On the other hand oif you can afford to pay for $180 GB worth of content you can afford the overgae fees too.

All that aside I feel those caps are too low. WTF is the point of the ultra light tier? 2 GB then $5 overage?

Why is it i can buy a business server with 3 terabytes of data for only 80-90USD/month ( 80-90 Canadian )
because it's BUSINESS account. You can get one of those if you like.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614991 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:32:56 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614977 TigerLord : How am I being an ass? For weeks, if not months, stories have been popping up about tier packages, enforcing caps, both in the US and Canada.

He said he did 150GB of bittorenting TV shows. All standard encodes are 350MB, 720p ones, which I get, are 1.5GB. Even if did get only 720p HD encodes of legal tv shows recording, that's a 100 hows, or 25 per week. That's hardly believable.

Last week, on another story, someone said he was disgusted at Comcast wanting to enforce caps and it was not sufficient for him as he did 400GB+ per month, or people whining about the throttling.

Look at it from a business' point of view and you might understand the logistics and costs. Hop on the Tekksavvy forums, where almost all canadian heavy users now are, and R0cky explained how it worked. A user doing 500GB per month, be it legal or not, is not solvable for a company.

Why are you surprised? Rogers is simply jumping on the bandwagon and it won't stop there for other ISP. Let us not by hypocritical asses and pretend that "we can easily do 200GB in Linux distros downloading and what else". Anyone who did not see it coming was shortsighted.

We have to adapt. There is Tekksavvy for those who refuse to lower their downloading habbits. If like you you want to download your movies (legal or not) instead of buying them, you'll have to buy less per month or find an alternative.

That's the way it is, sorry to disappoint.

Am I going to judge people's downloading habits? No. Not so long ago I also downloaded 200GB per month. But the money we all save from P2P, setting the legal debate aside, I find it very ironic people DARE to whine at companies trying to enforce caps, which is extremely logic.

As long as they do not breach contracts or try to kill their competitors like Bell is doing, it's all fair game.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614977 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:30:31 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614947 Richard B : Or be like me I buy the dvd set if I really like it I may keep it but most likely I resell it on eBay and get about %50 or more of the purchase price back. I advertise the fact this not a chines bootleg version this gives me a hug advantage. Use the money to buy another set new. I never buy DVD on eBay. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614947 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:24:17 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614841 greendragon :
quote:
He said movies.


uh huh... Really? Is that all he said?

quote:
do you get tv from bittorrent as i do, its easy for me to do 130-150GB a month JUST for me watching tv


Oh and:

quote:
I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities!


I download movies all the time from Cinemanow.com that I BOUGHT!

Stop being an ass.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614841 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:06:31 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614666 TigerLord : He said movies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614666 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:36:37 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614594 adisor19 :
said by TigerLord See Profile :

I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities!
WRONG!

Downloading TV shows in Canada is perfectly LEGAL.

Adi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614594 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:25:39 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614552 TigerLord : I highly doubt Rogers wants to encourage you in your illegal activities!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614552 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:18:02 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614541 EPS : Cable TV... from Rogers, of course!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614541 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:15:09 EDT Re: haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614499 Nightfall :
said by chronoss2008 See Profile :

Welcome to the high expenses
ENJOY that next bill
im going to laugh my butt off as the guy downstairs gets a bill for internet and goes AHHHHHHHH!!
20-30GB?
are you serious do you get tv from bittorrent as i do, its easy for me to do 130-150GB a month JUST for me watching tv
now tell me with the above pricing what I would pay and why Rogers just started doing it self out of business

90 extra GB = 180 $ for a 7 megabit account
WTF
they just made bittorrent or the net UNFEASABLE to get movies or buy anything
SMART MOVE ROGERS
over price the per GB by a factor of 3

Why is it i can buy a business server with 3 terabytes of data for only 80-90USD/month ( 80-90 Canadian )
Sounds like you should invest in cable TV and a DVR. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614499 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:07:55 EDT haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614446 chronoss2008 : Welcome to the high expenses
ENJOY that next bill
im going to laugh my butt off as the guy downstairs gets a bill for internet and goes AHHHHHHHH!!
20-30GB?
are you serious do you get tv from bittorrent as i do, its easy for me to do 130-150GB a month JUST for me watching tv
now tell me with the above pricing what I would pay and why Rogers just started doing it self out of business

90 extra GB = 180 $ for a 7 megabit account
WTF
they just made bittorrent or the net UNFEASABLE to get movies or buy anything
SMART MOVE ROGERS
over price the per GB by a factor of 3

Why is it i can buy a business server with 3 terabytes of data for only 80-90USD/month ( 80-90 Canadian )]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20614446 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:59:11 EDT