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Fantasm

@rogers.com

Legally over the cap?

The following are legal downloads:
»newvoyages.us:1701/index.html?sort=1
"Star Trek - New voyages Ep:In Harm's Way" Size:1.34 Gigs
"Star Trek - New Voyages Ep:To Serve all my Days" Size:2.63 Gigs
"Star Trek - New Voyages Ep:Come What May" Size:3.87 gigs

There are more there to download...

A few other cap eaters:
Unreal Tournament III patch 1.1 Size:234.08 Megs
Unreal tournament III demo 741 Megs
Sins Of a Solar Empire: Size:549.1MB

Then there is streaming audio...
Downloadable tv shows For example Jericho, Seasons 1 and 2 downloadable from »www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/video/

By the way, I have an 8 megapixel camera. My friend has a 12megapixel. Bigger ones are on the way... I can easily take over 4 gigs of photos in a month. Now, do I send my pics to one relative and ask them to forward them because my ISP caps me, or do I send my pics to all my relatives at once...
100 pics x 8 megs x 20 relatives = 1.600 gigs
And don't tell me to reduce them to a smaller size, that's not why I got an 8 megapixel camera.

Anybody who believes caps are good, is very mistaken. Do you also enjoy the $6.95 "System Access Fee" on your cellphone bill too?


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

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said by Fantasm :

The following are legal downloads:
»newvoyages.us:1701/index.html?sort=1
"Star Trek - New voyages Ep:In Harm's Way" Size:1.34 Gigs
"Star Trek - New Voyages Ep:To Serve all my Days" Size:2.63 Gigs
"Star Trek - New Voyages Ep:Come What May" Size:3.87 gigs
I doubt the legality of those.

A few other cap eaters:
Unreal Tournament III patch 1.1 Size:234.08 Megs
Unreal tournament III demo 741 Megs
Sins Of a Solar Empire: Size:549.1MB
Total 1.6 GB who cares. Only 93.4 GB left.

Then there is streaming audio...
most is 128 kbps. 6 hours day = 10 GB a month

Downloadable tv shows For example Jericho, Seasons 1 and 2 downloadable from »www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/video/
Ok let's get out terms right. Those are STREAMING episodes not downloadable episodes. Cbs and companies like that don't stream over 1.5 Mbps if that. I hour of streaming Tv a day would be 20 GB a month at best.

By the way, I have an 8 megapixel camera. My friend has a 12megapixel. Bigger ones are on the way... I can easily take over 4 gigs of photos in a month. Now, do I send my pics to one relative and ask them to forward them because my ISP caps me, or do I send my pics to all my relatives at once...
100 pics x 8 megs x 20 relatives = 1.600 gigs
And don't tell me to reduce them to a smaller size, that's not why I got an 8 megapixel camera.
there is ZERO reason to send a 8 MP picture over the internet unless it's for business. I guess you're one of those suckers that thinks the more MP a camera has got the better pictures it takes. You realize even a 30" monitor at 2560X1600 is only 4 MP. And you only need a 6-7 MP camera to take really good 11X14 shots. 11X14 at 200 DPI is 6 MP. So why would you be sending 8 MP shots? Even at 8 MP is you're sending in jpeg format that wouldn't even be 4 MB. That comes to 8 GB if that.

I call bullshit on you.

Anybody who believes caps are good, is very mistaken.
just shows how ignorant you are.

You know in fantasyland we'd all have 100 Mbps connection with unlimited bandwidth and hell the service would be 100% free, cable would be free, phone would be free, electricity would be free, gas would be free, housing would be free, food would be free etc etc. Um..but we live in a place called the REAL WORLD.


SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA

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Yes, umm "we" do.



HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO

reply to Fantasm

said by Fantasm :

By the way, I have an 8 megapixel camera. My friend has a 12megapixel. Bigger ones are on the way... I can easily take over 4 gigs of photos in a month. Now, do I send my pics to one relative and ask them to forward them because my ISP caps me, or do I send my pics to all my relatives at once...
100 pics x 8 megs x 20 relatives = 1.600 gigs
And don't tell me to reduce them to a smaller size, that's not why I got an 8 megapixel camera.

4 Gigs? I shoot almost twice that on every shoot I go on ! lol
--
Capturing the images of Colorado
»jdebordphoto.com


HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO

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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

said by Fantasm :

The following are legal downloads:
»newvoyages.us:1701/index.html?sort=1
"Star Trek - New voyages Ep:In Harm's Way" Size:1.34 Gigs
"Star Trek - New Voyages Ep:To Serve all my Days" Size:2.63 Gigs
"Star Trek - New Voyages Ep:Come What May" Size:3.87 gigs
I doubt the legality of those.

A few other cap eaters:
Unreal Tournament III patch 1.1 Size:234.08 Megs
Unreal tournament III demo 741 Megs
Sins Of a Solar Empire: Size:549.1MB
Total 1.6 GB who cares. Only 93.4 GB left.

Then there is streaming audio...
most is 128 kbps. 6 hours day = 10 GB a month

Downloadable tv shows For example Jericho, Seasons 1 and 2 downloadable from »www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/video/
Ok let's get out terms right. Those are STREAMING episodes not downloadable episodes. Cbs and companies like that don't stream over 1.5 Mbps if that. I hour of streaming Tv a day would be 20 GB a month at best.

By the way, I have an 8 megapixel camera. My friend has a 12megapixel. Bigger ones are on the way... I can easily take over 4 gigs of photos in a month. Now, do I send my pics to one relative and ask them to forward them because my ISP caps me, or do I send my pics to all my relatives at once...
100 pics x 8 megs x 20 relatives = 1.600 gigs
And don't tell me to reduce them to a smaller size, that's not why I got an 8 megapixel camera.
there is ZERO reason to send a 8 MP picture over the internet unless it's for business. I guess you're one of those suckers that thinks the more MP a camera has got the better pictures it takes. You realize even a 30" monitor at 2560X1600 is only 4 MP. And you only need a 6-7 MP camera to take really good 11X14 shots. 11X14 at 200 DPI is 6 MP. So why would you be sending 8 MP shots? Even at 8 MP is you're sending in jpeg format that wouldn't even be 4 MB. That comes to 8 GB if that.

I call bullshit on you.

Anybody who believes caps are good, is very mistaken.
just shows how ignorant you are.

You know in fantasyland we'd all have 100 Mbps connection with unlimited bandwidth and hell the service would be 100% free, cable would be free, phone would be free, electricity would be free, gas would be free, housing would be free, food would be free etc etc. Um..but we live in a place called the REAL WORLD.
0 reason to send a 8MP image over the net? I call bullshit on you! How about wallpapers? I send 8mp images over the net every day, it's called "You need high quality images to have high quality prints through your online photo developer". The bigger the image, the better. Period. Caps are NOT god by any means, and you apparently are NOT thinking outside the box at all. Think of all the money invested by other companies besides ISP's in video. ABC, Youtube, on and on, and I won't even start on social networking sites. You can watch movies via Netflic now online. These ISP's aren't only stifling technology for the consumer, but also other companies as well and I HOPE these companies come together and take the ISP's right to court! This is NOTHING short of a money grab and bending over the consumer, period! Ironic isn't it that we all the sudden get faster speeds, DOCIS 3 is coming, and now this crap. Don't ya think there's something a tad wrong and fishy there?
--
Capturing the images of Colorado
»jdebordphoto.com


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by HotRodFoto:

0 reason to send a 8MP image over the net? I call bullshit on you! How about wallpapers? I send 8mp images over the net every day, it's called "You need high quality images to have high quality prints through your online photo developer". The bigger the image, the better.
wallpapers? Unless you've got a 30 inch monitor you don't need a 8 MP wallpapper. Even then I doubt you do. You can not tell a differnce on a 24 inch or smaller monitor between a wallpapper that is 8 MP or 2 MP.

Also let just go ahead an assume you have a "need" to consistantly send 8 MP over the internet completely uncompressed that has nothing do with business ...cough.... cough.( I mean if you were using them for business that might require you to get a business account with you ISP ) well that would be, what, 24 MB. So if you were on Rogers 95 GB cap plan and used half your cap to used for sending uncompressed 8 MP images you could send 2000 pics a month. Of course if you sent them in the highest quality jpeg format you could send 12,000. So what is your issue again?

Also I'm not sure what Rogers highest upload speed is, but assuming it's 2 Mbps then you'd spend 53 hours a month sending 2000 uncompressed 8 MP pictures. That's quite a "hobby"

itguy05

join:2005-06-17

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quote:
wallpapers? Unless you've got a 30 inch monitor you don't need a 8 MP wallpapper. Even then I doubt you do. You can not tell a differnce on a 24 inch or smaller monitor between a wallpapper that is 8 MP or 2 MP.
Let me just say as a photographer: YOU ARE WRONG. There, I said it.

1) I'd almost guarantee I could tell the difference on my 20" display between a 2 and an 8MP image as a wallpaper. Especially if there's any cropping done to fit the aspect ratio.

2) For printing, you want 300-360 DPI (depending on the printer). Some want more. So for uploading to Shutterfly, Mpix, Costco, etc. you want to send the whole huge file. Not to mention on many prints there is some sort of cropping needed. So you want all the pixels.

4) It is generally accepted that for best quality at every level you record in the highest resolution and crop as the next to last step (last is sharpening). It's why the images from my 12MP camera blow away the 3.3MP camera on screen.

So, yes there are valid reasons.

quote:
Also I'm not sure what Rogers highest upload speed is, but assuming it's 2 Mbps then you'd spend 53 hours a month sending 2000 uncompressed 8 MP pictures. That's quite a "hobby"
Apparently you have no friends, family, etc that live far away. Very easy to throw my pics up on a website, and let them download the ones that they want to print, all in their 12MP glory.


HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO

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reply to BF69
I send images that are continually over 18 megs straight to Mpix, and ya many others do as well. And yes u CAN tell the difference on a 24 screen from a 2mp to a 8mp :rolls eyes: If that was the case then there would be no need for high res images for web use on stock agency sites.

Now let's go in and add in online backup from say.....Mozy.com , streaming radio from shoutcast or Sirius, and you can see where this is going. A 95 Gig cap is to small and if you THINK that is heavy users then maybe you need to take a look at Comcast who is 250.

It's a money grab, plain and simple. It isn't hard to see it either.
--
Capturing the images of Colorado
»jdebordphoto.com



NetAdmin1
CCNA

join:2008-05-22

reply to BF69

said by BF69:

said by Fantasm :

The following are legal downloads:
»newvoyages.us:1701/index.html?sort=1
"Star Trek - New voyages Ep:In Harm's Way" Size:1.34 Gigs
"Star Trek - New Voyages Ep:To Serve all my Days" Size:2.63 Gigs
"Star Trek - New Voyages Ep:Come What May" Size:3.87 gigs
I doubt the legality of those.
»www.startreknewvoyages.com/episodes.html

100% legal apparently...

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