New Gallery Button/Option in Site Feature Requests http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20623872 en Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:17:52 EDT Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:17:52 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722020 drew : *object*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722020 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:13:33 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20659151 Brainless :
said by tmpchaos See Profile :

Actually, "Complaining about the Gallery in the forum will be strongly discouraged."
When it comes to the Gallery, there dosent seem to be a definable line between "complaining" and discussion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20659151 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:00:39 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20659117 tmpchaos : Actually, "Complaining about the Gallery in the forum will be strongly discouraged."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20659117 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:55:30 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20659014 Brainless :
said by fourboxers See Profile :

said by brainless :

Ok, to start out with, I am posting this here in the Imaging Forum and asking a mod to move it to the New Feature Requests Forum.
Because anytime its discussed in the imaging forum its locked before its even started. I wanted to at least have a chance of discussion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20659014 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:39:04 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20658794 fourboxers :
said by brainless :

Ok, to start out with, I am posting this here in the Imaging Forum and asking a mod to move it to the New Feature Requests Forum.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20658794 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:52:08 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20658432 Brainless :
said by X Man See Profile :

Sick of banging your head against this wall yet?

Nobody cares if I never post another image. But, if we can get some others that people might notice are gone to stop maybe that would do something.

The photos are "content". The great photos, are great "content" and a site loses great "content' and it will be noticed.

So, you can keep banging your head against this wall or try and get the backing of the people who know what's what and don't find your request "silly". :uhh:

Regards,
Mike
Yea, I am tired of it. Im tired of the whole situation. We are not allowed to discuss the problem in the forum where the problem exists. We can only talk about it here where we have to spend our time arguing with people that dont have a clue as to the real problem. I was hoping the powers that be would grace us with their presences and give us a yes or no, or at least be willing to discuss it with us. But as they say, "If your not part of the solution..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20658432 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:50:20 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20656116 X Man : Sick of banging your head against this wall yet?

Nobody cares if I never post another image. But, if we can get some others that people might notice are gone to stop maybe that would do something.

The photos are "content". The great photos, are great "content" and a site loses great "content' and it will be noticed.

So, you can keep banging your head against this wall or try and get the backing of the people who know what's what and don't find your request "silly". :uhh:

Regards,
Mike]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20656116 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:15:41 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20654900 cacroll :
said by Brainless See Profile :

It just bothers me that the majority of people agreeing are from the imaging forum, and the majority of objectors dont even have a photo posted in the gallery. I wouldnt even think of voting on something going on in a forum I didnt have anything to do with. Should they have a "right" to vote? I guess, but why would someone even get involved in a discussion on something that dosent effect them in the least? All Im saying is your commenting on something when you havent been there, you dont know what has been going on and how the problem has been effecting the gallery and those that use it.


You're not listening to those who don't have photos posted in the gallery. Just because we don't post photos in the gallery doesn't mean that we don't use the gallery.

And, you posted this request in Features Request. Didn't you think that maybe this request, as posted, would get you criticism that would consider the welfare of the website as a whole?

We're aware of the problem with unhelpful criticism. There are trolls all over DSLR, some semi helpful, some just hateful. You don't see all of them, because some of them are removed by the mods. Others aren't, because their activity is on topic for the forum in question.

Everybody in DSLR Forums (and in DSLR in general) won't agree with you, just as everybody in the world won't agree with you. Learn to deal with it.

Your request is silly, and I Object.
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said by Brainless See Profile :

said by cacroll See Profile :

said by Brainless See Profile :

We are talking about the gallery, not the forum.
It appears though that the "gallery" inherits the problems of the "forum" - people are able to speak their minds. Where people speak their minds, people will disagree with you. As you do with me, and I with you.

If you want a gallery where none may disagree with you, setup a blog. Turn comments off, and post your pictures. But with a "gallery" that's associated with a forum, people will disagree with you.

Respectfully, I continue to Object.
So your solution, is to just leave this website where I have been a member for 7-8 years, instead of being a positive part of it and trying to change it for the better?

Either way, it is pointless to sit here and argue this with someone that dosent even use the gallery in the first place. I dont see how you can "object" to a change in a portion of the website that you dont even use.
You don't have to leave the website. There are plenty of ways to contribute without being active in the Digital Imaging Forum. Check out the many other forums on the site. I'm sure you can find one or two where you can contribute useful help and/or information. In fact, I'll bet you won't even miss the DI Forum.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20653466 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:45:27 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20653217 81399672 :
said by Brainless See Profile :

said by cacroll See Profile :

said by Brainless See Profile :

We are talking about the gallery, not the forum.
It appears though that the "gallery" inherits the problems of the "forum" - people are able to speak their minds. Where people speak their minds, people will disagree with you. As you do with me, and I with you.

If you want a gallery where none may disagree with you, setup a blog. Turn comments off, and post your pictures. But with a "gallery" that's associated with a forum, people will disagree with you.

Respectfully, I continue to Object.
So your solution, is to just leave this website where I have been a member for 7-8 years, instead of being a positive part of it and trying to change it for the better?

Either way, it is pointless to sit here and argue this with someone that dosent even use the gallery in the first place. I dont see how you can "object" to a change in a portion of the website that you dont even use.
members of this board have a right to vote for or against a request. It do not matter if they currently using that part of the board or will be using that feature. Every single member has a right to vote and that is what is being done.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20653217 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:48:11 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20653127 cacroll :
said by Brainless See Profile :

So your solution, is to just leave this website where I have been a member for 7-8 years, instead of being a positive part of it and trying to change it for the better?

Either way, it is pointless to sit here and argue this with someone that dosent even use the gallery in the first place. I dont see how you can "object" to a change in a portion of the website that you dont even use.


Your opinion is that you would make it better. I disagree with that opinion. And just because I don't make any remarks there doesn't mean that I feel that the remarks made shouldn't be there.

You posted this in Feature Requests. I objected originally, and I continue to do so. Your feature request is silly.

Object.
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said by removed See Profile :

I still don't understand the point behind your request. Other users won't always agree with your idea of what is / isn't a good photograph. There's no reason to be butt hurt about something like that.

Why even bother uploading a picture to the gallery if you can't take the feedback?
Because it's not just about posting a photo for feedback on whether it's good or not. There are any number of reasons for posting a photo other than a critique, and that is what I believe the OP is getting at. If I choose to use the Gallery for nothing more than to show my friends here what I did last weekend, I don't need a damned critique of whether or not I should have used a smaller f-stop or faster shutter speed. After a while, that crap can get just plain annoying. Whether you realize it or not, there is a difference between commenting on a photo and critiquing it.

Still, I do see the other side to this. Some people do post to the Gallery for critiques. In the DI forum, you can tag a thread [CritEditY] or [CritEditN]. All the OP is really asking is that a similar option be extended to the Gallery. If adding that option is too much work (though I doubt it), then doing what I previously suggested should be considered.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20653043 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:10:09 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20652567 removed :
said by Brainless See Profile :

So your solution, is to just leave this website where I have been a member for 7-8 years, instead of being a positive part of it and trying to change it for the better?
I still don't understand the point behind your request. Other users won't always agree with your idea of what is / isn't a good photograph. There's no reason to be butt hurt about something like that.

Why even bother uploading a picture to the gallery if you can't take the feedback?
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said by cacroll See Profile :

said by Brainless See Profile :

We are talking about the gallery, not the forum.
It appears though that the "gallery" inherits the problems of the "forum" - people are able to speak their minds. Where people speak their minds, people will disagree with you. As you do with me, and I with you.

If you want a gallery where none may disagree with you, setup a blog. Turn comments off, and post your pictures. But with a "gallery" that's associated with a forum, people will disagree with you.

Respectfully, I continue to Object.
So your solution, is to just leave this website where I have been a member for 7-8 years, instead of being a positive part of it and trying to change it for the better?

Either way, it is pointless to sit here and argue this with someone that dosent even use the gallery in the first place. I dont see how you can "object" to a change in a portion of the website that you dont even use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20652509 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:13:56 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646719 cacroll :
said by Brainless See Profile :

We are talking about the gallery, not the forum.


It appears though that the "gallery" inherits the problems of the "forum" - people are able to speak their minds. Where people speak their minds, people will disagree with you. As you do with me, and I with you.

If you want a gallery where none may disagree with you, setup a blog. Turn comments off, and post your pictures. But with a "gallery" that's associated with a forum, people will disagree with you.

Respectfully, I continue to Object.
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said by cacroll See Profile :

said by Brainless See Profile :

A while back, we implemented the "Critique Invited" option in hopes that this would solve it. If you wanted a critique, you chose this option when you posted your photo. This didnt work. Now you get a critique weather you ask for one or not.
This web site is generically called, a "forum". In a forum, there will be people who agree with you, and others who disagree with you. Both types of people are entitled to post. Weather or not you like critics, you get them.

We are talking about the gallery, not the forum.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20644224 Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:29:35 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20641290 cacroll :
said by Brainless See Profile :

A while back, we implemented the "Critique Invited" option in hopes that this would solve it. If you wanted a critique, you chose this option when you posted your photo. This didnt work. Now you get a critique weather you ask for one or not.


This web site is generically called, a "forum". In a forum, there will be people who agree with you, and others who disagree with you. Both types of people are entitled to post. Weather or not you like critics, you get them.

Nowadays, kids can't have a birthday party without the host gives each child a present, just because they come to the party. It lets all of the kids feel "special".

This forum isn't kids who have to feel "special", it's "adults" (right) who have to accept the cold, cruel world where everybody won't agree with them.

You might as well get used to that too.

Object.
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said by Gizy See Profile :

While that is true, the last time I checked the average viewer could not leave public comment on a piece in an art gallery. Yes you can verbally comment, but the average viewer cannot leave a comment under a painting in a museum for everyone else to read.
Remind me to take a stack of post-it notes with me to the art museum next time... :p
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And while I'm at it I'll say this, also IMOHO of course, it's a damn shame so many people here and on so many other photography sites and galleries sit and carefully study every photo under a microscope for even the slightest hit of a flaw scratching their asses and making mental notes and can hardly wait to explode with critiques and brutal comments about how this or that could have been better or should have been done in a different or better way than the owner themselves seen fit. For Christ's sake doesn't anyone ever just admire and appreciate an image and enjoy it for what it is anymore, how the photographer meant it to be and appreciate the hard work and efforts he/she put into it?
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20630140 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:34:31 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20629780 Apathy : Welcome to the Internet. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20629780 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:25:24 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20629764 Gizy : While that is true, the last time I checked the average viewer could not leave public comment on a piece in an art gallery. Yes you can verbally comment, but the average viewer cannot leave a comment under a painting in a museum for everyone else to read.
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It's a gallery. People have opinions in galleries. If someone doesn't like opinions they probably shouldn't be posting pictures in a gallery. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20629736 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:18:23 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20628157 Subaru : :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20628157 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:25:00 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20627970 james :
said by Subaru See Profile :

only way to get good ratings now is to post nude female models or Photoshop the hell out of an image.
Is that why all your photographs have the mountains photoshopped to look suspiciously like breasts?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20627970 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:51:43 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20627579 Subaru : I stopped really allowing votes on my pictures due to the issue of some who have an issue and just rate poor for the hell of it.. only way to get good ratings now is to post nude female models or Photoshop the hell out of an image.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20627579 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:40:02 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20627415 rusdi : Well, I must admit, I am guilty of "drive-by-voting", and commenting in "Feed Back". However I can't remember ever giving anyone a vote other than EXCELLENT, or AMAZING.

Also, I try to limit my comments, 'cause I figure those that post 'em are doin' me a favor, and sharing their artistic point-of-view, and I am CERTAINLY not qualified to negatively critique ANYONES efforts in the Gallery.

On occasion, when a photo REALLY grabs my attention, and I feel,(my opinion) it deserves a comment, I will try to provide a short narrative 'bout what it is in the photo that stands out exceptionally, to me, (again, from my perspective). That ABSOLUTELY is never meant to be hurtful, or strident towards the photog. My preference is to keep any negative things like that, to myself, and defer to the "experts". :)

Having said all that, it doesn't mean I don't like a photo, jus' 'cause I DON'T comment on it. Merely means I don't have anything to say 'bout it. Perhaps the subject doesn't interest me. That doesn't mean I don't think it's a good photo. I may think the technical aspects are wonderful, but as I said, I'm not really qualified to judge that. (yet) ;) :) Instead, I try to look @ the photo, as the photog wanted to see it. Makes me appreciate the effort even more! :)

Thanks to everyone for sharing your photos in the Gallery! They have truly provided me with hours of enjoyment, ideas, and have taught me a thing, or two, and continue to! :)

EDIT: OOPS! *SIGN*. almost forgot! :D
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The real problem is the tactless and self righteous persons who just can't take to heed or just shut up and likes to open their uneducated and ill informed post first no matter what.............
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said by ff1324 See Profile :

Also, adding a "hey mods" button would be good thing.
It's already there, though you need to work a little to get to it. Between the picture and the comments, click on "Comments on picture". This will give the comments in the normal forum format. Click on the offending comment, and the "Hey Mods" link is where it always is.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20626010 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:18:16 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20625998 Jodokast96 : There's one big thing so many people seem to miss about the Gallery. It's not just those that frequent the DI forums that upload to it. Just going through the first four pages there is a pretty good number of people I don't recognize. I'm willing to bet that a lot of them could care less about getting a critique, but don't realize that allowing comments means both good and bad. Maybe a little reminder that appears on the page after you click the "Upload your pic now" link would help. That should help with those that aren't regulars and only occasionally post to the Gallery. Now for us regulars that do want to allow comments, but don't aren't really looking for a critique, clearly state so in your description, and if your wishes aren't respected, let the mods take deal with it. I don't want to hear an nonsense about the mods having enought to do. If it's to the point that it's that much of a problem, then the offending parties really need to be dealt with in a much harsher, and possibly more permannet, manner. I honestly don't even know what, if anything the "Critique Invite" is supposed to do. I've never seen any indication of it actually working, but maybe it's just me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20625998 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:15:33 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20625719 Brainless : Gizy, you are probably right. I think even some will ignore it, but I think most will take head. And I think it will solve most of the problem. But the sad part is, many of the self proclaimed experts, are just that. They hack away at others photos in order to make themselves look like experts. They let their light shine by snuffing out someone elses candle. And it is sad. Very sad.

Well, here is what the deal is with me. I have cleaned out my gallery yesterday. Then I posted one So-So photo just to keep my gallery open. I was out shooting this morning. It was a beautyful sunrise. I havent had a chance to process any of the shots yet, but I dso know onw thing. They wont be posted here. And here is why...

Mobility (or lack of) hase become a huge obstical in my life lately. Getting to the right place for a shot at the right time has become a challenge in itself. Then when I get home, I pour a lot of time and energy into processing each and every photo. I have spent my whole life as a commercial artist. I treat every photo as a creative piece of art. And as such, there is a part of me in every shot I post. I dont mind sharing it. In fact, I enjoy sharing it. It gives me great pleasure to share that part of me with others. But then one of the above mentioned people comes along. They see the photo, snatch it off the wall, throw it on the floor amd stomp on it. Then when you ask them why they did it, they say "Im a photographer. It was for your own good."

So, Im just not doing it anymore. At least not untill its fixed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20625719 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:08:12 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20625105 TigerNutz :
said by SandShark See Profile :



I don't have any statistics to back this up, but I imagine a vast majority welcome comments, good or bad, as long as they're not hateful and mean comments. I won't name names, but there are some individuals who could be more tactful and sensitive when they cut down someone's work. Their people skills are extremely lacking, to say the least.

You should heed some of your own advice there Jim. ;)
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said by Brainless See Profile :

Personally, Im so sick of it, I threw up 4 times back.
I don't think this feature will do much of anything to help you. I personally believe that this is petty and unnecessary.

*object*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624976 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:28:27 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624973 53352381 : I don't view the gallery for my own pleasure, I view it to help members improve their photography skills.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624973 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:27:40 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624969 Gizy : I believe that can be found in the right and left arrow keys, exactly as it is now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624969 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:26:24 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624961 53352381 : Well then I could hope to use a setting that blocks me from viewing any photo that does not allow me to comment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624961 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:21:15 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624949 Gizy : Yes
It's called sharing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624949 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:18:40 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624655 53352381 : What is the point of uploading if you don't want a critique? Are we just supposed to look at the photos and have no opinion?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624655 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:52:46 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624590 ff1324 : Can we get check boxes added in the upload interface that would:
a) [] Voting Allowed
b) [] Comments Allowed

And have both defaulted as CHECKED?

Its possible folks want one or the other, but not both. From a programming standpoint for the forum gods, I don't think adding the flag should be too difficult of an add on.

Also, adding a "hey mods" button would be good thing.

My own two cents...I post photos I would like to share. If someone doesn't like them, oh well. My self-esteem is hardly based on the opinions of those here at DSLR or the DI forums. I post photos I'm either proud of or find humorous.
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What do you want to do to the world, Ronald?
Burn it all.
See you next year, Ronald.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624590 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:40:21 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624584 SueS : I have only been around here for about a year, but I feel that with this being a public forum people should be able to take what other people say good or bad. No one makes anyone post in the gallery. If you don’t want comments don’t post, very simple. I have only been doing photography for a few short years and I have plenty to learn yet. I only shoot for a hobby. If someone likes something I did, it is kind of nice to know that maybe I am on the right track. If they flat out do not like it, I like to know that also, it makes me look at my image again, and maybe see things I had previously overlooked. So what if someone does not like a photo, it is not the end of the world. Can't a person make privite folders and share pictures with only those they want?

I disable all voting on all my photos, but I like comments. The voting means nothing to me.

I share my photos with friends and family who seem to enjoy them, but I am not going to learn anything from them, as they know even less than I do about photography.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624584 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:37:55 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624529 jaykaykay : I guess I am one of those who is clueless. I always try to make a comment when voting or not voting. I am no pro. Far from it, but I do love looking at the images I see and have always felt that it's nice to make a nice comment...maybe even a small critique of what i feel or see, nothing personal ever meant.

I just don't get this thread. What am I missing? I've never said anything to offend anyone that I know of, would not do so even when critiquing, and I don't see the harm in a comment or 2. I appreciate comments on my images...even comments containing critiques. Am I so all fired different than anyone else around here?

Why does this kind of thing take place? Why can't we, as supposed adults, act like adults and monitor how something is said, even if we don't care for it? There's always something nice that can be said, even in a critique.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624529 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:27:45 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624525 Kringle : Why not just define a set of guidelines (that we all should know by now anyway) in the stickies and make a small modification to the way the comment posts are displayed. The comments are a regular post with some of the info removed. You can see this by clicking on the "permalink" icon (>>). How about adding a "hey mods" link as well as the permalink icon so people can flag the offending posts (comments)?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624525 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:27:07 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624433 X Man :
said by tmpchaos See Profile :

I think it can be even simpler than that. Make it so that if you allow voting, you allow comments. No voting, no public comments. Tie all the feedback together.
Amen, that works for me, boss.

I've removed my gallery and I'm not posting another image until something is done. I'm sick of self proclaimed photography experts who's egos far outstrip their actual chops, ruining the whole experience.

The way it is now, apparently one can leave whatever type of comment they like. I even have an example. I posted a comment on an image by someone who ticked me off...

...My comment was retaliatory {yet accurate} and in clear violation of anything that would fly anywhere else in any other forum on this site.

I posted the comment @ 11:35 AM est. and at 11:08 PM est, it's still there.

The setup is badly broken and invites abuse and tit for tat retaliatory voting and commentary.

Regards,
Mike]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624433 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:10:39 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624178 Gizy : While I agree with that in theory, I don't think it's fair to have to use voting to get comments. Many of us don't feel the voting is a good indicator of feedback, but actual comments are. The two are not necessarily tied together.

The gallery has multiple functions. If one of them is to share images just for the sake of sharing, why can't there be some kind of indicator on the posting? If it's already there for requesting critiques, why not one showing the critiques aren't needed?

*sign* although I personally think that there are many who will ignore the request for no critiques.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624178 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:25:16 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624141 tmpchaos : I think it can be even simpler than that. Make it so that if you allow voting, you allow comments. No voting, no public comments. Tie all the feedback together.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624141 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:17:25 EDT Re: New Gallery Button/Option http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20624100 HFB1217 : While I agree with you about the poor attitudes of some toward the gallery images. I think that some people don't know how to interact with others and no matter what you do postings will still have negativity/rudeness as there theme.
But that is the real world and a fact of life some people are just dense or failed at potty training.
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I don't have any statistics to back this up, but I imagine a vast majority welcome comments, good or bad, as long as they're not hateful and mean comments. I won't name names, but there are some individuals who could be more tactful and sensitive when they cut down someone's work. Their people skills are extremely lacking, to say the least.

Edit - Replaced some adjectives.
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This has been an issue that we have fought over since the Gallery was formed. Someone post a photo in the gallery and someone feels they have to "Critique" it. The original poster gets upset, the feud begins, it spills into the Imaging forum, people get pissed, threads get locked...etc. Personally, Im so sick of it, I threw up 4 times back.

A while back, we implemented the "Critique Invited" option in hopes that this would solve it. If you wanted a critique, you chose this option when you posted your photo. This didnt work. Now you get a critique weather you ask for one or not.

Personally, I post to share my photos. I dont want a critique. I want a new button/option. I want it to say "Critique Not Welcome". I think this is a simple enough request. I dont feel it is offensive toward anyone. It will be a personal choice. And Honestly, I think it is way over due. This problem has gone on long enough. The other option (critique invited) is clearly not working. Hopefully this will solve the problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20623872 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:26:36 EDT