Xizer
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2 edits |  This is not because of "child porn"
Time Warner is not doing this out of concern for "the children." It looks like they've finally found an excuse to get rid of their top-notch Usenet service. This is a red herring. The only reason they are doing this is to save themselves money so that they no longer have to pay for their customers to have access to Usenet. As of June 23rd, they are ending their complimentary Usenet access for all of their subscribers.
Time Warner Cable has, up until now, offered Usenet service that is outsourced to Newshosting. All TWC customers have had access to 110-day retention, unlimited bandwidth binary newsgroups. This has been a fairly well kept secret. It doesn't surprise me that they have now found an excuse to get rid of this surprising value (this kind of service is around $20/month from a third party Usenet provider, normally). Time Warner Cable has long been a top ISP in the United States for this, liberal bandwidth policies, and good speeds compared the competition. This is but another step in many that Time Warner is taking to increase their already impressive profits at the expense of the consumer. It seems that Time Warner is joining their Comcast buddies in trying to nickel and dime the consumer, while removing as much value as possible from their product.
Hey, Time Warner: Thanks for getting rid of my Usenet access. Now where the hell is my $20/month cheaper service?
I know I'm already gearing up to switch over to the competition. The day Time Warner starts rolling out those ridiculous 40 GB bandwidth caps that they've been trialing in Texas is the day that I cancel my service with them. Why, when they are faced with increasing competition from Verizon's FIOS and AT&T's U-Verse, they are pulling this crap is beyond me.
I don't know about Sprint and Verizon, but I suspect they are also doing this to save themselves some dough, and latching onto the pathetic "child porn" reason as an excuse as well. | |
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mod_wastrel
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| Re: This is not because of "child porn" said by Dogfather  :...this has ZERO to do with pr0n "Child porn" has ZERO to do with porn. Child abuse is not porn. | |
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hopeflicker
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| said by Xizer :Quit inaccurately reporting this story. Time Warner is not doing this out of concern for "the children." It looks like they've finally found an excuse to get rid of their top-notch Usenet service. This is a red herring. The only reason they are doing this is to save themselves money so that they no longer have to pay for their customers to have access to Usenet Hummm...interesting 
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Matt
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| said by Xizer :All TWC customers have had access to 110-day retention, unlimited bandwidth binary newsgroups. Wow, wonder what you use THAT for?  | |
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Xizer
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| Re: This is not because of "child porn" said by Matt :said by Xizer :All TWC customers have had access to 110-day retention, unlimited bandwidth binary newsgroups. Wow, wonder what you use THAT for? Probably not child porn, since I'd imagine some guy filming such depraved acts in the back of a shed isn't using a video camera in a high enough quality that it would require such high bandwidth. | |
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Matt
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| Re: This is not because of "child porn" said by Xizer :said by Matt :said by Xizer :All TWC customers have had access to 110-day retention, unlimited bandwidth binary newsgroups. Wow, wonder what you use THAT for? Probably not child porn, since I'd imagine some guy filming such depraved acts in the back of a shed isn't using a video camera in a high enough quality that it would require such high bandwidth. Right, but piracy and child porn are both crimes. | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: This is not because of "child porn" So is bribing politicians to get laws passed that are favorable to your industry. | |
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Xizer
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1 edit | said by Matt :Right, but piracy and child porn are both crimes. The difference is that one of those "crimes" actually deserves to be a crime, whereas the other one is widely considered to be acceptable, just like jaywalking. | |
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Matt
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| Re: This is not because of "child porn" said by Xizer :said by Matt :Right, but piracy and child porn are both crimes. The difference is that one of those "crimes" actually deserves to be a crime, whereas the other one is widely considered to be acceptable, just like jaywalking. That doesn't change the fact it's still a crime, no matter how much you want it to not be. | |
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major marco
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| Re: This is not because of "child porn" said by Matt :said by Xizer :said by Matt :Right, but piracy and child porn are both crimes. The difference is that one of those "crimes" actually deserves to be a crime, whereas the other one is widely considered to be acceptable, just like jaywalking. That doesn't change the fact it's still a crime, no matter how much you want it to not be. And it also doesn't change the fact that at any given time, DMCA takedown notices issued for alleged copyright infringement are bogus. So put that in your piracy catch-all bong and smoke it.
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| Re: This is not because of "child porn" Who is talking about DMCA takedown notices? The last time I checked, NNTP wasn't peer-to-peer. | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: This is not because of "child porn" So what. Take down notices aren't limited to P2P. You can obviously get DMCA notices for posting to Usenet. | |
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major marco
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| said by Matt :Who is talking about DMCA takedown notices? The last time I checked, NNTP wasn't peer-to-peer. Context of the comment notwithstanding, which should have clarified it for you beyond all doubt, you made one of your ubiquitous all downloading is piracy statements and I corrected you. | |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | So what if it's a crime. Spend enough money and you can get virtually anything criminalized or decriminalized.
Laws like the DMCA and NET were BOUGHT. | |
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mod_wastrel
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| Slavery used to be legal, so I guess the fact that it wasn't a crime made it OK. Women not being able to vote used to be legal... OK? Being a "crime" has little to do with something being "acceptable" or not; it's about a small group of individuals getting together and wanting to exert control over others... for the sake of the common good, of course... certainly not for some lobbyist with the most money, certainly not because they have such higher moral values (what's the ratio of legislators in jail versus non-legislators?). Oh, yeah, something being a crime or not is all that matters for it to be considered unacceptable. | |
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| Re: This is not because of "child porn" Juries ended slavery in the north by refusing to convict, which should be the case with piracy or even drugs. Juries need to step up and tell the system what maybe acceptable if the politicians are bought and paid for. go to FUlly Informed Jury Association. | |
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| Another problem is that if you take away the 'goods' from the perverts, then, instead of privately enjoying their perversion in front of the computer screen, they may find no alternative but to step into the real world and perhaps hurt a real child instead of a virtual child.
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