DOCSIS 3 in Shaw http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20634746 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:08:41 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:08:41 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21096223 OrBy : The SB5120 is actually a older modem then the SB510# series. I have one I keep around as a backup in case something takes out my SB5102. The big difference between them is that the SB5120 used a Texas Instruments chipset where the SB510# modems use a Broadcom one. Many people say that the Texas Instruments chipset was more stable then the Broadcom one but I would say that they finally worked out the bugs and that my SB5102 works fine.

None of Shaw's current modems that I know of will support any sort of upgrade to DOCSIS 3.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21096223 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:32:54 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21041341 lucky644 : Has shaw upgraded their modems yet from the 5102 series?

I see there's a 5120 out there.

I've been waiting forever, because theres a firmware bug in the 510X series that causes severely capped bw on specific servers.
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and current modems can handle docsis 3]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20810378 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:56:29 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797775 anon : i hope this mid august rumor is true]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20797775 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:14:20 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20737543 AnonShawUser : BBQ was last week. A few weeks back there WERE lots of vehicles there, but that's because of the quarterly financials.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20737543 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:06:46 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736954 cableguy84 : current modems can handle it with firmware upgrade(i think).

although just because there were a lot of Shaw trucks at the barlow building means nothing, they have meetings like that every few months and it is stampede time maybe they had their yearly bbq...
but that doesn't mean docsis 3 isn't coming.
BUT... most likley they wouldn't be training the guys that actually drive the Shaw trucks on docsis 3 they would be training all the NOC guys located at corp HQ downtown and other techs that are not in shaw vans.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736954 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:12:10 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736931 ErikRP : Forgive me if I don't jump for joy just yet. I'll wait until I hear what the upload speeds are, what the caps will be, and how much all of this will cost per month.

Given what Nitro offers versus how much it costs, I am thinking it's going to be a bit of letdown, but I'd love to be proven wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736931 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:09:15 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736595 anon : Yay! Go Calgary!!
So we will be getting new modems soon? or are our current Motorola modems Docsis3 compatible?

Did he hint on the tier speeds?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736595 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:58:01 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736258 anon : Confirmed with a senior Shaw employee. They completed docsis 3 training 2 weeks ago at the Calgary Barlow building (there was hundreds of Shaw vehicles present). Calgary-wide docsis 3.0 deployment is mid-August 2008. They are targeting offering 100mbit to each home. Edmonton area is going to offer the same packages but the Edmonton Shaw tech said they aren't making the switch to docsis 3.0 anytime soon, they will offer the sames bandwidth packages even though the modem is ~40mbit max.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736258 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:43:42 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20672929 anon : The return spectrum on cable is from 5-40MHz, some technology uses 256K return channels (but 4 of them) while some (like DOCSIS) can use 1.6 or 3.2MHz return channels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20672929 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:43:39 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20672416 anon : Aren't the returns on baseband up to 6Mhz or something? Or maybe that's on the old TDM system?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20672416 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:58:45 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20670703 anon : I noticed that on the return monitors (CH110-113 or something) there have been changes in the return path to free up space space adjacent the DOCSIS upstream channels. One of the requirements for DOCSIS 3 channel bonding is that the upstream channels are adjacent...:-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20670703 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:26:45 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20665462 pfak :
said by phoneboy3 :

Well you do get a static IP as well but yea the extra upload capacity is the main reason they charge so much more for the server package.
The statics really aren't all that static, they change as frequently as dynamics (usually around a year.)

Not worth the extra cash.
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Ah, if only they kept Xtreme at 2mbit up, like when they first rolled it out...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20643260 Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:47:22 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20639791 cableguy84 : you could always go pay for an A synchronous fiber connection...lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20639791 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:44:18 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20639725 anon : Doubt you will get higher upload. Yea it's a bottleneck but mostly for them in that it limits their capacity. If they were to offer a higher upload tier I would expect they would charge a HUGE premium for that. Not speculation, simple bottom line($$$)analysis.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20639725 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:30:17 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20639169 anon : All i want is higher upload speed. 10Mbps is fine for me but where i think we are lacking is in the upload.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20639169 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:34:33 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20639010 CogitoSum : Well, since we're both speculating anyway, I don't really feel the need to get into an 'yes they will, no they won't' argument; but, that said, over the years, bandwidth caps have gotten higher, speeds have gotten higher, and relative prices have dropped... draw your own conclusions. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20639010 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:03:43 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20638789 anon : Cogito,

The logic is that the upgrade allows them to squeeze more bandwidth out of their backbone without even more expensive upgrades to the metro network wiring. They are not just automatically going to give you more bandwidth. They may add a higher speed tier (which you will pay more for). They certainly won't want to change their caps though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20638789 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:29:15 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20638324 cableguy84 : They already give you the best and fastest service in western Canada why would they jump on DOCSIS3 right away just for the small amount of users that go upload/download crazy.
If the nitro isn't fast enough for you, maybe you should think about paying for the right connection, after all you get what you pay for right.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20638324 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:05:04 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20637737 CogitoSum : I fail to see your logic. The incorporation of DOCSIS 3 is a great financial burden on the company and, while there are some benefits to the company through the switch over, it's primarily in a competitive sense. The consumer, without a doubt, is the main benefactor of the new protocol.

And sure, the current extreme package is plenty fast, and there's even Nitro for those who require more, but really, who is going to complain about being able to download even faster? Not to mention, with the current infrastructure, upstream is severely limited, and in dire need of improvement. DOCSIS 3 should allow for that.

As for the bandwidth caps, that has no effect on the speed you obtain items, only the amount of items you can obtain within a given period. An increase in speed only become problematic in this sense if you feel the need to download everything you can get your hands on. That said, I would imagine an increase in the bandwidth usage guidelines would increase with the introduction of the new standard. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20637737 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:06:45 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20637533 anon : Why does anyone care? It's not like it is going to be better for YOU. It's only better for Shaw.

Is the current Extreme package still not fast enough? With bandwidth caps any higher speed is kind of useless if you ask me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20637533 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:29:50 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20635612 anon : Shaw is too busy getting up and running with wireless phone across Canada. Watch out. Plus what fdf said-- Not competitive enough yet in the market they are in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20635612 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:00:35 EDT Re: DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20635572 anon : when it becomes competitive to do so... When is Shaw going to up the upload speed?

So many question so few answers.. come on Shaw insiders give us a taste of whats coming up.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20635572 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:51:28 EDT DOCSIS 3 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20634746 anon : When is shaw rolling this out?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20634746 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:05:15 EDT