LLigetfa
join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
| reply to videobruce
Re: Is there a FAQ for WISP? A few questions.
You should be more specific. Are you talking about 3G/EVDO only? They are only a small segment of what you are calling WISP. Many would not even include them in the category of WISP.
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videobruce
join:2002-05-14
Buffalo, NY
| Sorry, but I'm not familar with all the terms.
First off, what is the correct trem that this service is called? I thought it was WISP. Then I see this EVDO term. Just as WiFi is what is accepted for local wireless internet access, what is this service suppose to be called and how many different flavors are there?
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LLigetfa
join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
| Personally, I don't consider cellphone companies providing 3G/EVDO or other data, WISPs. WISP is simply an acronym for Wireless Internet Service Provider and under that broad definition, satellite internet also comes to you wirelessly.
There are separate forums for the individual cellular providers but there is not a general forum for all of them so the DSLR admins lumped them in here with WISPs.
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videobruce
join:2002-05-14
Buffalo, NY
| I didn't say they were connected, I just wanted to know if these two services had separate frequencies and bandwidth.
So you are saying WISP is the correct term for this service no matter what provider is involved?
How about EVDO & 2G, how do they fit in?
I'm just looking for a name of this service since it appears all three terms seemed to be used. Really confusing.
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LLigetfa
join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
| said by videobruce  :I didn't say they were connected, I just wanted to know if these two services had separate frequencies and bandwidth. ... I'm just looking for a name of this service since it appears all three terms seemed to be used. Really confusing. Again, are you talking about cellphone companies and EVDO?
If you didn't infer from my comments, I don't consider them WISPs and I will bow out of discussions on them. Just because they deliver internet wirelessly, some people use the broad WISP brush to tar. Call them WISPs if you wish but to your benefit, you should make the distinction.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| Okay, specific question: what company do you want information about? Routers with PCMCIA cards on them are used for 3G, which would be in another forum. WiSPs (in this definition for this forum) can be used with routers that just take an Ethernet WAN port (the ones that are $50 a Wal-Mart).
If you have questions about the latter type of service, ask here. |
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superdog
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join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA
| said by iansltx :Okay, specific question: what company do you want information about? Routers with PCMCIA cards on them are used for 3G, which would be in another forum. OK, FYI, Any router that needs a PCMCIA card in it is EVDO or 3G or some other form of cellular technology. These are all mainstream nationwide CO's like Verizon, AT&T, Sprint. They also pay big $$ to buy a licensed frequency that only they can use. These are NOT considered WISP's
A WISP is a local provider who is usually based in the same area you live in and they do not have a nationwide footprint. Most of them use unlicensed frequencies in the ISM or UNI bands which include 900, 2.4 and 5.8Ghz range. In most cases, WISP's are "fixed wireless" providers (They only give you internet access at one location), so once you leave your home, you can no longer access your providers service and the internet.
When you purchase internet from a large CO like AT&T or Verizon, you can use this service at any location nationwide where you can pick up signal. The speeds range from 200k to 1.5Mb. You can use either a PCMCIA card in your notebook or laptop computer or you can purchase a router that allows you hook up multiple computers(router will also require a PCMCIA card)
said by iansltx :WiSPs (in this definition for this forum) can be used with routers that just take an Ethernet WAN port (the ones that are $50 a Wal-Mart). I am going to say that at least 50% of the time, the WISP will include the router for you as it is built into their radio. All you will need is a switch to plug into the ethernet drop they give you and you could plug up to 254 computers into it (You would never need that many, it was just an example...........) 
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| Superdog, when I say "router" I mean "way to turn one Ethernet port into multiple and also a WiFi network". Yes a switch may work, at least for some WiSPs, but most people get a NAT\router because that NAT\router also has WiFi capability and people want that.
Also, when the local WiSP set up my 'net service here they gave us a crossover cable to use with the wireless radio to connect to one computer...the router that we had didn't work with the service...this crossover cable was on the other had not needed to the then static IP service into the router.
Now they use DHCP, though I have my still-static IP (grandfathered) keyed into the router. Okay, it's not that static. When they switched to DHCP they changed the IP, and a few months later when they switched backbone providers (AT&T -> Qwest) they switched it again. I think they also forgot to un-firewall me on the new port :/ |
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superdog
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join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA
| said by iansltx :Superdog, when I say "router" I mean "way to turn one Ethernet port into multiple and also a WiFi network". Yes a switch may work, at least for some WiSPs, but most people get a NAT\router because that NAT\router also has WiFi capability and people want that. Thats fine.  I was just trying to help clarify the difference between EVDO/3G cellular and what a WISP is.
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