Re: Remember China in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20646361 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:20:22 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:20:22 EDT Re: Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20649597 anon : Ok heres a simple way to use this problem. Its like 2008 and almost everyone on here has more than one pc. Why not take one PC and install google. Run this pc for only that and never get on it except to look at the information.

Also if your that paranoid, you can vlan that pc so every other device in your house cannot see it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20649597 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:57:10 EDT Re: Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20648098 anon : ahh AnonProxy, the company you are thinking of is Yahoo, it's Yahoo that helped the Chinese government track down and jail a journalist who was also a political dissident.

»www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c···7C99.DTL

You can read here about what Google did which is just to agree to censor search results to exclude sites that the Chinese Government finds objectionable.

»www.nytimes.com/2006/04/23/magaz···gle.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20648098 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:48:56 EDT Re: Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20647198 Jameson :
said by Alcohol See Profile :

Shh. Don't let AnonProxy See Profile find out that half his things in his house are made in china else he will refuse to use them :uhh:
Hey AnonProxy See Profile, your computer is made in China. There problem solved.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20647198 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:31:38 EDT Re: Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20647106 dualsub2006 : I'm sorry but you are showing your total ignorance to the facts here. You clearly have no idea at all about what actually happened with Google and China, but even worse you have absolutely no clue about what goes on right here in the USofA. Google was the one company that took the US government to court over records.

Yahoo and MS handed info over, Google fought. The judge ruled in favor of the government, but he required Google to hand over much less info than wanted.

If you are going to have a cause you not only need to believe in it, you need to understand it. Clearly, you DO NOT understand ANYTHING.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20647106 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:08:56 EDT Re: Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646572 AnonProxy : There is a difference between doing business in China and assisting China in tracking down people so they can be put in jail, for nothing more than using a search engine. Google had the option to say "Sorry we don't keep that information."
They also have the option to not modify their search engines to accommodate propaganda, but they choose not to exercise that option when profits are on the line.

But the both of you miss the significance of the actual issue; if Google will drop a dime on people using their SEARCH ENGINE, do you think they will bat an eye when asked to turn over your entire browsing history to Homeland Security? You can bet they won't.

As well both of you seem to miss the irony of Google purporting to support free and unfettered access to the Internet and information, showing how your "ISP might be playing tricks on you." While doing the same in the name of the same desire, more profits.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646572 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:38:57 EDT Re: Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646392 Alcohol : Shh. Don't let AnonProxy See Profile find out that half his things in his house are made in china else he will refuse to use them :uhh: ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646392 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:46:57 EDT Re: Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646363 Anonymous : Free speech? What the hell? China has it's own legal system and their own set of laws. Anyone doing business in China needs to respect that. Google had no choice since China is a major player and next super power. They could either obey the law or piss them off and get booted.

Besides if Americans really cared about it you would not see "MADE IN CHINA" sticker on 99% of merchandise sold in the US.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646363 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:41:52 EDT Re: Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646361 Alcohol :
said by AnonProxy See Profile :

I would npt run a Google application on my system ever. Their collusion with helping China thwart free speech and track down dissidents evidence enough that Google will sell you down the river to keep their profits up.
I can see it now, Google Throttle Checker and Homeland Security Back Door.
What would you have them do? Ignore China and their billion possible users?
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I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646361 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:41:20 EDT Remember China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646316 AnonProxy : I would npt run a Google application on my system ever. Their collusion with helping China thwart free speech and track down dissidents evidence enough that Google will sell you down the river to keep their profits up.
I can see it now, Google Throttle Checker and Homeland Security Back Door.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20646316 Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:30:00 EDT