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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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Yes I have a comment....

HN is out of their f'in minds! 3/300 for 189 a month? RIDICULOUS!


Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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said by Cheese:

HN is out of their f'in minds! 3/300 for 189 a month? RIDICULOUS!
Said the person with a 8/2 connection for 57.95/mo.


Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
kudos:1

reply to Cheese
Thats only if you pay the $300 upfront fee, otherwise it's $209.99! Most people would call it highway robbery.

I think the 500Mb daily cap would be the bigger issue for me though. Back when I had DirecWay, they advertised speeds up to 1800 down, which is/was fast enough for general web browsing. But I couldn't download a windows service pack without exceeding the daily limits.
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

reply to Rob

said by Rob:

said by Cheese:

HN is out of their f'in minds! 3/300 for 189 a month? RIDICULOUS!
Said the person with a 8/2 connection for 57.95/mo.
Exactly, I like my 8/2 for 57 a month


elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

reply to Cheese
yea if bet you could get a real T1 for close to what they want for 3mbps and it might be better >.> seeing as 500MB a DAY isnt much and 14Kbps cap after? you might as well use a 58K modem its faster...



Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

reply to Camelot One

said by Camelot One:

Thats only if you pay the $300 upfront fee, otherwise it's $209.99! Most people would call it highway robbery.

I think the 500Mb daily cap would be the bigger issue for me though. Back when I had DirecWay, they advertised speeds up to 1800 down, which is/was fast enough for general web browsing. But I couldn't download a windows service pack without exceeding the daily limits.
Yep, hell even some games in today's world, just UPDATES exceed that!


Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

reply to elios

said by elios:

yea if bet you could get a real T1 for close to what they want for 3mbps and it might be better >.> seeing as 500MB a DAY isnt much and 14Kbps cap after? you might as well use a 58K modem its faster...
It would be better, better uploads, better SLA, no caps on download limits, etc..

pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA

reply to elios
You're right. A full T1 is around $300 to $350, and you get an SLA too.

These guys are nuts.


MRCUR

join:2007-03-09
Columbia, PA

reply to Cheese
Very, very true. I just downloaded almost 3 gigs from the Xbox LIVE Marketplace yesterday.

I'll stick with my 8/2 Comcast connection for $43/month.



Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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·Comcast
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reply to pabster

said by pabster:

You're right. A full T1 is around $300 to $350, and you get an SLA too.

These guys are nuts.
Good luck getting that rate out in the middle of BFE. Thats where all these people are getting satellite in the first place. They aren't in the city. They are out in the sticks. Getting a T1 run all the way out there is almost double that rate depending on how far outside the city you are.

EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

That's the key thing- HughesNet isn't trying to steal customers from Verizon, Comcast, TWC, or at&t, they're going for customers who have no other option except for dialup (and sometimes not even that)... That's what lets them get away with such huge costs. (Plus, running a satellite operation isn't cheap)


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Comcast

reply to Nightfall
Uhh, double? Try $1000-$1500 a month and that isn't even out in the middle of nowhere...

OTOH sub-100 kbps uploads from WildBlue are sooo lame. Oh, and 1.3 second pings to anywhere. Plus, WildBlue's website isn't even hosted on their own network :/


pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA

reply to Nightfall
It just depends. I've got a remote site which could be classified as BFE and the cost for a full T1 is under $400 a month. Obviously this varies wildly.



elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

reply to iansltx
did you miss the its sat. some were "1.3sec pongs"
duh geo sync orbit is ~1/2 sec up and ~1/2 down at speed of light

lucky its not more then 1.3 sec



BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to Camelot One

said by Camelot One:

Thats only if you pay the $300 upfront fee, otherwise it's $209.99! Most people would call it highway robbery.

I think the 500Mb daily cap would be the bigger issue for me though. Back when I had DirecWay, they advertised speeds up to 1800 down, which is/was fast enough for general web browsing. But I couldn't download a windows service pack without exceeding the daily limits.
500 MB a day = 14.65 GB a month. And people complain about possible 250 GB caps from cable


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to elios

said by elios:

did you miss the its sat. some were "1.3sec pongs"
duh geo sync orbit is ~1/2 sec up and ~1/2 down at speed of light

lucky its not more then 1.3 sec
actually geo synch orbit is 1/8 of a sec.

speed of light 186,282 mps geo synch orbit 22,500 miles 1/8 of 186,282 = 23,285. 22,500 is pretty close to 23,285


elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

said by BF69:

said by elios:

did you miss the its sat. some were "1.3sec pongs"
duh geo sync orbit is ~1/2 sec up and ~1/2 down at speed of light

lucky its not more then 1.3 sec
actually geo synch orbit is 1/8 of a sec.

speed of light 186,282 mps geo synch orbit 22,500 miles 1/8 of 186,282 = 23,285. 22,500 is pretty close to 23,285
true but thats as the laser goes
1/4 of a sec from base to your home not counting time it takes A. processing on the ground be for broadcast and B.Processing that the bird has to do
1/2 sec and 1/2 down is more of just a good number to live by


ztmike
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join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN

reply to pabster
lol @500mb a day caps..i go threw that within 8 hours or so.
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

reply to MRCUR
Duh, ya think? HN is for people who have no alternative.



Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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reply to pabster
Where are you getting quotes for a T1 for $300-$350 total? My T1 is DIRT cheap at $360 plus $40 in fees. And that is for a short loop.

There is no way you're going to get a T1 for less than $350 out in the middle of nowhere.


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