Fox McCloud
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1 edit |  DSL Coming to Town--erm, the Country
Well, this is certainly good news for me--with the recent news that Sprint is going to place a 5GB cap on their service, it was looking like I'd have to go back to dial-up (I still might, for a time). Anyway, I e-mailed an Embarq rep that I personally know who works in my area, and he said my remote-terminal/switch is due for an upgrade this fall.
If this really is true, I'll be extremely happy, as I'll finally have access to true broadband.
Either way, my questions are these:
The remote terminal I pull is less than 4,500 feet from my home--it's relatively new equipment that was put in some time after 2000--they also upgraded it and made it fiber fed.
Assuming they put in the proper DSLAM, what are the chances I'd be able to get 5 meg? What are the chances I'll get 10 meg?
Also, what are the chances they'll put in a DSLAM that will be able to handle 10 meg and FastPath?
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC | I'd say nearly 100% for 5M and fastpath and maybe 75% for 10M. If they allow 10M at your DSLAM it should work at 4500 ft.
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Fox McCloud
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| said by MrMoody  :I'd say nearly 100% for 5M and fastpath and maybe 75% for 10M. If they allow 10M at your DSLAM it should work at 4500 ft. so the chances are fairly low that they'd put in an old DSLAM that wasn't capable of doing FastPath?
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC | I'm not an authority, but on a fiber feed I'd say no, they wouldn't.
Where are you, anyway?
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Fox McCloud
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join:2006-07-23 | in Western Ohio, in a very rural county...I'm sorry but that's about as specific as I'll get. |
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MrMoody
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No problem, that's close enough, just curious where Embarq is building out. And glad they are, good luck to you.
IMO, Embarq is one of the best ISPs in this country, fast reliable connections, low down time, responsive service, no caps, no port blocks, no rules against servers, etc etc. You're lucky you live in their territory, you would NEVER see AT&T or much less Verizon DSL out there.
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Fox McCloud
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| said by MrMoody :No problem, that's close enough, just curious where Embarq is building out. And glad they are, good luck to you. IMO, Embarq is one of the best ISPs in this country, fast reliable connections, low down time, responsive service, no caps, no port blocks, no rules against servers, etc etc. You're lucky you live in their territory, you would NEVER see AT&T or much less Verizon DSL out there. yeah, I've very appreciative of that, considering I live about...oh? 15 minutes from town (around 6+ miles away), so yeah, I do consider myself very lucky.
the only thing I'm concerned about is latency--a friend of mine has a 5 meg package and his latency is in the low 100's....that said, he's on the fringe for 5 meg (he'll never be able to get the full 5 meg), and I don't know how good his lines are.
Either way, time will tell--it'll still be better than dial-up, satellite, or EVDO.
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC | On fastpath and fiber here I am under 30 ms to NJ ... generally under 50 to anywhere east of the Mississippi.
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Tarheels Fan
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Fox,
Couple of issues here - if you aren't capable of DSL service now, then once that switch is upgraded, that will be the box you served out of. There is no way to reroute, otherwise they could do it now 
Next, 4500' would mean 10M, if that is the true loop length. However, its not always the way the crow flies. So unless you have had a tech tell you about 4500', then I wouldn't assume anything.
Also, latency has VERY little to do with how far you are from the DSLAM. In fact, even at 18k', you are talking maybe 4-5ms addition, if that. It will depend on what kind of DSLAM is put in, as to whether or not you can get Fast Path. All of the DSLAM's are capable of fastpath, however there are a few that tech's aren't able to change. As to which kind of DSLAM will be put at your location, well it could go either way, but it will be a lot better than EVDO. |
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Fox McCloud
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| said by Tarheels Fan :Fox, Couple of issues here - if you aren't capable of DSL service now, then once that switch is upgraded, that will be the box you served out of. There is no way to reroute, otherwise they could do it now I'm not sure, exactly what you're trying to say here. I was merely saying that the the RT/Switch I pull from used old equipment a few years ago, then they upgraded it to newer equipment and backed it by fiber--they did not, however, add a DSLAM (they upgraded the RT/switch around 2000-2001).
Next, 4500' would mean 10M, if that is the true loop length. However, its not always the way the crow flies. So unless you have had a tech tell you about 4500', then I wouldn't assume anything. I didn't really use the "by the crow flies" method (though I admit I could still be off in my calculations): this is the method I used:
the green box is their equipment, and the green line is the past I used to guesstimate the measurements (black is obviously the road).
however there are a few that tech's aren't able to change. As to which kind of DSLAM will be put at your location, well it could go either way, but it will be a lot better than EVDO. Okidoke--any idea why they can't change it? Either way, I certainly hope the DSLAM they put in will be one that techs can change from interleaving to FastPath.
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MrMoody
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| If your road is a dead end, your line could very well go all the way around the far end. I've seen it, in fact mine was that way until they changed it, although I'm fairly close to the end anyway. I would think they SHOULD be able to fix it in that case by putting your line under the road.
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1 edit | Congrats! I hope that Embarq holds up to their promise of bringing DSL out to your area. I know exactly how you feel...I recently moved to a location that was not serviced by DSL. Luckily, I was within range of a cell tower that was broadcasting EVDO...but as you say, there is no comparison to DSL or cable.
Needless to say, I was stoked when I saw a few Embarq technicians at the end of my road replacing the terminal and bringing brand new equipment. Within a few weeks, I was up and running with 5 meg (my loop length was 6,310 feet so I only qualified for 5 meg).
Embarq has been by far the best ISP I have ever dealt with. There is no comparison...hands down. |
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Fox McCloud
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1 edit | reply to Fox McCloud
here's a more detailed view of what my area looks like, and what equipment is where:
RT1 is fiber fed and the one I pull from
RT2 is copper fed, and I was told would need extenders be placed on the "pipe" to equipment before a DSLAM could even be put there.
Either way, if you measure by road, and including the phone-line on my property, it turns out that I'm actually 4,700 feet form the RT...so I was a bit off (then too, last time I made a measurement was when my area was less detailed).
if the DSLAM is capable of doing 10 meg, and 4700 feet is the true length, do you think I'd be able to get it?
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Tarheels Fan
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join:2006-01-05 | Well its going to depend on if your remote is copper fed or fiber fed. If copper fed, then most likely 5meg will be the limit as the backhaul will not be able to support several 10Meg connections. |
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Fox McCloud
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| said by Tarheels Fan :Well its going to depend on if your remote is copper fed or fiber fed. If copper fed, then most likely 5meg will be the limit as the backhaul will not be able to support several 10Meg connections. said by Fox McCloud :The remote terminal I pull is less than 4,500 feet from my home--it's relatively new equipment that was put in some time after 2000--they also upgraded it and made it fiber fed. 
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