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| | Re: Great, More Ammo For The Cap Arguments said by fAcEtIOUs:said by pabster:Well reports like this will be sucked up and fed to us by the cro...er, large ISPs as "proof" that they must implement bandwidth caps and throttling et al. Either costs go up or caps come on. Your pick. Have you ever worked in any sort of capacity where you would be qualified to make a statement like that ? Seriously, have you ever priced or purchased connectivity in anything more than a residential broadband connection ?
Contrary to your statement, the cost of bandwidth and providing services DECREASES constantly. I remember pricing out a T1 for a client years ago and just the price of those puny circuits have fallen drastically. | |
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1 edit | Re: Great, More Ammo For The Cap Arguments said by NetAdmin1  Have you ever worked in any sort of capacity where you would be qualified to make a statement like that ? Seriously, have you ever priced or purchased connectivity in anything more than a residential broadband connection ?
I was director of a 23 state telecomm network for a major Railroad before I retired. So, yes, I am qualified.
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1 edit | Re: Great, More Ammo For The Cap Arguments How long ago was that? Meaning, times change rapidly and cost models of 10, hell 5 years ago no longer apply. | |
| | | | | Re: Great, More Ammo For The Cap Arguments said by Dogfather:How long ago was that? Meaning, times change rapidly and cost models of 10, hell 5 years ago no longer apply. 8 yrs ago. And they haven't changed that much for the same principle to apply. A little cheaper is all.
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1 edit | Re: Great, More Ammo For The Cap Arguments A LOT cheaper is all. Prices per unit of speed/throughput was WAY higher 8 years ago. | |
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1 edit | said by fAcEtIOUs:said by NetAdmin1 Have you ever worked in any sort of capacity where you would be qualified to make a statement like that ? Seriously, have you ever priced or purchased connectivity in anything more than a residential broadband connection ? I was director of a 23 state telecomm network for a major Railroad before I retired. So, yes, I am qualified. Oh, so you're acutely aware of the railroad history lesson I mentioned above as well as the state and mind set of today's ISPs!!!! 8-) Thank you, that is CLASSIC! | |
| | | | said by fAcEtIOUs:I was director of a 23 state telecomm network for a major Railroad before I retired. So, yes, I am qualified. I see... Then, if you are qualified, why are you stating the total opposite of what is actually happening? Provider costs for both bandwidth and the last mile are falling, rapidly. Unless we're talking about trying to keep an old MVS mainframe up or trying to restore a UNIVAC, technology gets cheaper over time.
For example, in the eight years since you were lasting working as a director, backbone capacity has exploded - we've gone from most providers having OC3s and OC12s to most providers having ten and 40 gigabit backbones.
And then look at Verizon... Back in 2000, doing FTTH would have bankrupted them.
Costs have not gone up... Prices charged to customers have fallen too low. Pay by the byte is that fault of providers trying to outdo their competition on price. Additionally, as ATT and others become video providers, they don't want to compete against IP based video. | |
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