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weaseled386

join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL
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Sooooo now what?

... now what do you AT&T U-verse haters have to say about FTTN/P??? Are you going to just argue "Fios' lowest speed is faster than AT&T's highest" again? That ones played out. You have no idea what U-verse is capable of, and you have no idea what FTTN/P Fios' limitations can/will be.


PoloDude
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join:2006-03-29
Northport, NY
kudos:2

This is stated as a potential option, not a plan. Unlike AT&T.



Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

reply to weaseled386
I still say it sucks, but unlike AT&T who half-asses it everywhere, it's a last ditch effort for Verizon to service the otherwise unservable.


nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

the lesson: if rural areas want fttp, they are going to have to do it themselves



Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro

reply to weaseled386

said by weaseled386:

... now what do you AT&T U-verse haters have to say about FTTN/P??? Are you going to just argue "Fios' lowest speed is faster than AT&T's highest" again? That ones played out. You have no idea what U-verse is capable of, and you have no idea what FTTN/P Fios' limitations can/will be.
Difference is that I HAVE FIOS (FTTH) right now.... This is a viable option for RURAL customers who would otherwise never see fiber optics at all. Since when has it been new for a company to try to turn a profit?

FTTN is a flawed approach IMHO for the majority of suburban / urban locations... But for rural customers, it is much better than any options they have available today.

-Tzale


Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:16

It depends how you're defining a node. FTTN without remotes is useless in rural environments, because domiciles will be far enough away from the CO that the bottleneck will be on the last mile, not the node's upstream link.

If you're spewing remotes everywhere (Bell Canada is taking this approach with their FTTN network), then it has a chance of success. But you need to build out an awfully huge number of remotes to make it work so that most people can get close enough to the DSLAM to get any decent speed.

In fact, with pair bonding, you can only push 30mbit downstream speed out to 2.5km at MOST. VSL2, which mimics ADSL2+ performance on the downstream at such distances, may provide higher upstream rates (ADSL2+ will only give up to 7mbit for two bonded lines under any conditiosn).

I'm currently in the Montreal downtown core. I'm 2.4km from the CO. Other nearby friends have longer loop distances. I could theoretically get FIOS-like speeds, others can't, and we're all in a densely populated area.

So, I'm repeating myself and rambling, but my overall point is that FTTN can provide the speeds they need, but would require remote DSLAM installations even in densely populated areas.


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