Verizon Considers 'Fiber to the Node' FiOS > USF causes this

reply to patcat88

Re: USF causes this

So far it looks like 25 Mbps is the max you can get with VDSL. At least, AT&T's version. After that you have to bond. And please, please don't start putting VRADs everywhere Verizon...

And really, I'd love fiber everywhere. Would probably allow for cheaper business and carrier class fiber installations as well. However I can see why it'd be uneconomical at this point to lay it all the way out to very rural areas. In which case, I'd be happy with FTTP\FTTN VDSL or ADSL2+ at 20 Mbps down and 2 up. Sure beats the current options, that top out at $100 for 2 Mbps down and highly variable (512k ish) up if you want something that isn't limited to 5GB a month or have satellite-class latency.

Oh wait, lots of town can't even get DSL. The lines are all screwy. Back to square one.

Bonded DSL can be a good alternative for Verizon to offer all the services they do to FTTH except their biggest HSI tiers.

And current DSL offerings don't really matter since VZ would in effect be gutting "first mile" stuff.

Right. Bonded DSL, as in DSL2+ or VDSL, could get you 50 Mbps or maybe 30 a ways from the CO. The end result being as much as 20-30 Mbps internet and the TV stuff. Sounds fine to me, though without the cool factor of light running to your house.

What I think they (and AT&T) should do is keep the DBS partnership and reserve that throughput for HSI instead of half-assing video and HSI.

Good idea, but then cable has one up on 'em for offering all three services (TV, voice, internet) over one line. Of course, I'd love to be able to get a 25 Mbps VDSL line from AT&T (though I'm not in their area so moot point) because I could care less about TV. Of course, I could have both TV and internet with no problem on FiOS as fiber can support those extreme types of speeds, but I'd rather not be capped on my internet speeds in less capacity friendly situations (xDSL) just because I *might* get TV.

reply to iansltx

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Your assuming that cable reaches everyone that verizon will be able to with fttn. If cable doesn't go down a road like the one I live on and verizon will extend dsl service to my house, then they have two services and cable none.

True dat. Also, about the VDSL2 etc. and bonding, I didn't know that VDSL2 could get that much extra bandwidth, but I also didn't know it was that short-range. Looks like if VDSL were to be the upgrade path for my area i still wouldn't be able to get access. Houses are spaced too far apart here and I'm only about two miles out of town...

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