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Re: Past BBR stories established Nebuad only monitoring

said by funchords:

The device is inserted in the middle, so it can see the entire transaction, including the cryptographic key exchange.

That said, I have no evidence that it decrypts https, and I personally believe that it would use precious CPU time in a middlebox where processing speed must be an issue.

To be able to decrypt the conversation you need the private key (stored only on the hosting server/load balancer) that matches up with the public key served up in the https negotiation process.

The SSL cert also needs to match up as being issued by one of the default Certificate Authorities that had their authentication keys distributed with the web browser software.

Corporate SSL decoding solutions like that provided by Bluecoat work by having a "special" CA key installed on each of the client machines so that the appliance can spoof the https negotiation of valid Internet sources and have the public SSL key authenticate with the "special" CA that gets installed to the web browser so that the user never sees a pop-up to clue them in to the practice. Where you can notice this is if you look at the SSL cert details itself in the browser you will see that sites like Yahoo would be certified by some mystery CA instead of Verisign/Equifax/GeoTrust/Thawte/etc. The scary thing is that in a corporate environment this key can be distributed very easily/silently through Active Directory.

To be honest, the whole thing creeps me out and I'm usually pretty liberal in my view on acceptable practices in networking.

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