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donoreo
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join:2002-05-30
North York, ON

OpenSUSE 11 is released

The torrent is slow at the moment, but it was just let out under 5 minutes ago.

»software.opensuse.org/
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The irony of common sense, it is not that common
I cannot deny anything I did not say


happylurk

@dsl.look.ca

I'll wait a few days for the congestion to ease up... Also never a good idea to be the first one to upgrade


SUMware
Premium
join:2002-05-21
kudos:2

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reply to donoreo
DL'd the i386 DVD iso this morning from »download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/iso/ .
Took about 1.5 hours at my ISP's capped max speed with no problems. Seems like excellent load management, no congestion nor slowdowns here.

md5sums match. Will burn & install it soon.



donoreo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
North York, ON

The direct download was faster for me than the torrent as well.



graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL

The more people trying to direct download, the slower it can go. The more people in a torrent, the faster it can go.


SUMware
Premium
join:2002-05-21
kudos:2

This morning the direct DL was MUCH faster than the torrent. Much!



happylurk

@dsl.look.ca

reply to graysonf

said by graysonf:

The more people trying to direct download, the slower it can go. The more people in a torrent, the faster it can go.
Agreed... I set up a torrent this AM and even though Bell is traffic shaping up here I plan to seed for a week or so...


timcuth
Braves Fan
Premium
join:2000-09-18
Pelham, AL

reply to donoreo
I have heard that this is a superb distribution. I may have to try it.

Tim


exseven
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join:2003-05-23
Beamsville, ON
kudos:1

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reply to donoreo
i have put up the i386 & x86_64 DVD's on a mirror if anyone wants them still

»ftp://less.cogeco.net/openSUSE/openSUS···i386.iso
»ftp://less.cogeco.net/openSUSE/openSUS···6_64.iso



vukodlak75
Nisam Ti Dude
Premium,MVM
join:2001-10-27
Beachwood, OH

thanks



brydry
...it's meat-cake

join:2004-12-05
Safety Harbor, FL

reply to donoreo

Click for full size
here it is...
I see many improvements. The installer is the best and easiest I've used in any distro. Default install using the LiveCD into VM took less than 20 minutes.

Yast is also better than ever, and fast too. During the first update yast seemed to know that this was a running in VM and installed/configured open-vm-tools automagicly.

If you install, keep in mind that compiz/fusion are installed by default. You may not want this...

So, yes, lots of improvements but, I think (IMHO) kde4 needs to be simmered just a wee bit longer.
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donoreo
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join:2002-05-30
North York, ON

reply to donoreo
Torrent is better today. I tried to install last night, but either my download was bad (did not check MD5) or my burn was bad. I have downloaded again and seeding with torrent now.
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I cannot deny anything I did not say



happylurk

@dsl.look.ca

reply to donoreo
Running an upgrade install on my A machine right now...

Seems to be pretty painless. It checks to see if the environment is sane for an upgrade, manually resolve a few dependency conflicts and then let it do its magic.

ETA for upgrading 5 gigs worth of packages is about 2 hours on my machine.

One thing that has me slightly worried is that it deleted xmms and all reference to it. I LOVE that program, and would sorely hate to see it deprecated from the SuSE repositories.

BTW, it also keeps all your old repositories enabled in the upgrade, even the Non-OSS ones...


SUMware
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kudos:2

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said by happylurk :

One thing that has me slightly worried is that it deleted xmms and all reference to it. I LOVE that program, and would sorely hate to see it deprecated from the SuSE repositories
You could have checked...
»download.opensuse.org/repositori···.0/i586/


donoreo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
North York, ON

reply to happylurk
Development stopped on XMMS did it not?



happylurk

@dsl.look.ca

Actually it turns out that the installation has kept all the 10.3 respositories instead of updating them to 11.0

Big nuisance. I had to go in after the install and clean up the mess. Had to delete all the 10.3 depositories one at a time and then include all the 11.0 repositories afterwards.

xmms and gkrellm are apparently alive and well and dwelling on packman but they had to be reinstalled separately after the upgrade. Also had to reinstall a few DVD editing and ripping programs as well as now I am updating all the software from the repositories. Looking at another 3.5 Gigs of updates as it chugs thru the repositories updating all the apps.

Not entirely painless, but still one of the less painful Linux upgrade installs I've ever done.

So far though most of the stuff seems to work OK.

Will report thru the following week on progress and bugs in the new system...



happylurk

@dsl.look.ca

reply to donoreo
First REALLY major bug I've seen...

Samba cannot get thru the firewall.

Also, SWAT has no effect on samba.conf any longer.

Firewall bug was confirmed by disabling firewall and suddenly networked machines became visible.

SWAT problem seems to be some sort of permissions snafu.

Activating Samba thru YasT seems to work OK. It creates a samba.conf and smbpsswd and the rest of the configuration files from scratch if need be. As usual though, SuSE screwed up on the firewall holes necessary for it to run properly.

Opening the ports that earlier howtos have suggested has no effect. Machine still cannot see my Workgroup. Disabling the firewall seems to be the only answer for the moment.

Yeah,,, Fat chance

As for SWAT? It has become a 100% ineffective tool for Samba configuration. Changes are not even visible much less committed. The YaST Samba setup offers a very limited range of options for configuring shares, but at least it seems to work for now.

So, if anyone out there has the ear of a developer, this is an item to get on top of ASAP...



drjim
Premium,MVM
join:2000-06-13
Long Beach, CA
kudos:3

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reply to exseven
Thanks, exseven! I was having trouble getting it from OpenSUSE, and your mirrored files let me download it.
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One man's Magic is another man's Engineering.



happylurk

@dsl.look.ca

reply to donoreo

Samba Problem SOLVED: (Partially)

Samba problem was solved tonight.

Converted over a second machine to act as a test bed to see if it was a version conflict.

Turned out the problem was not the firewall. Somehow during the upgrade, my user info got hosed...

HOWEVER... SWAT remains USELESS for adding users and creating shares and setting globals.

Added user via command line >smbpasswd -a user

Also learned a few tricks on the second install.

When selecting the repositories for the upgrade, go in and edit each existing repo manually to point to 11.0 instead of 10.3

That will allow you to keep most of your software intact without the dumbassed install DVD assuming it's not supported and save you the trouble of the install deleting it and you having to reinstall it later...

That little gem saved me about 3 Gigs on the total installation and updating afterwards.

Afterwards all your repositories will still read 10.3 but the easiest way to fix that is to simply delete them once all the updates are done and then reinitialize all the 11.0 repositories from YaST to keep the labels straight.


happylurk

@dsl.look.ca

reply to donoreo

Re: OpenSUSE 11 is released

Updating the notebook now as I type.

This one makes 3 out of 3 machines updated...

All in all, expect to spend the better part of a day updating a system depending on CPU and HD and Network speed and how much software you have installed on the beast...

I'd still recommend the upgrade route over a clean install though as it will save you a few hours of tedious and error prone configuration...

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