 | Basic tiers going away? So what about people who are on their "basic" 15 channel tier just to get locals. How is it going to affect that if it's mandated by their franchise agreement? |
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 | they will offer tiers. You'll just need a digital box to get them. Many cable companies had boxes back a long time ago. Analog HBO anyone? |
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 | reply to dervari2 said by dervari2:So what about people who are on their "basic" 15 channel tier just to get locals. How is it going to affect that if it's mandated by their franchise agreement? It's my understanding the "broadcast basic" tier is going to remain analog. -- Jay: What the @#$% is the internet??? |
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 quetwoThat VoIP GuyPremium join:2004-09-04 East Lansing, MI | reply to dervari2 What franchise agreements? Comcast, along with AT&T is pushing hard to get rid-of-em. Most customers in Michigan no longer have the PEG channels in analog, and must pay for a STB now. There is a case in the courts to bring it back the way it was, however... |
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1 edit | reply to hottboiinnc I remember those boxes. Tune your TV to channel 3 or 4 and turn the dial and viola, HBO or Showtime was there. I remember having a Showtime box back in the early 80s and removing the front panel and placing an alligator clip on a tip and getting HBO on channel 3 and Showtime on channel 4. Of course the cable company got wind of this and started riveting on the faceplates.  |
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 | reply to dervari2 the basic channels will stay anolog 2-34 depending on where you live. channel about 34 will go all digital |
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 dnoyeBFerrous Phallus join:2000-10-09 Southfield, MI | reply to PaulHikeS2 I would think so. In MI comcast tried to digitize the local programming/access channels for municipalities. They quickly got smacked down by the government.
So I don't think they will be able to force digital on anyone. But for "pay" channels I am sure they can. -- dnoyeB "Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16
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 | reply to hottboiinnc said by hottboiinnc:Many cable companies had boxes back a long time ago. Analog HBO anyone? Many early cable systems offered analog channels and no box. Analog boxes were added later to compensate for past-generation TVs that had channel limitations. As TV tuners were expanded up to channel 125, the original need for analog boxes was eliminated.
In many systems, analog HBO and other premium channels then were delivered directly to cable-ready TVs. Line filters, or "traps," were used to limit access to authorized, paying customers. |
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 David_La vida es bella join:2001-01-28 chile | reply to AZ_OGM That`s gotta be the first "hacked" electronic system ever!  |
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | reply to cousintim You are partially correct. However, analog boxes were also addressable with security capabilities. MANY systems used them as a way to protect the security of the system and offer tiers.
MOST all systems that use the trap model send the signal in the clear (analog) which makes stealing easier. Trapping the signals only worked, mostly, on legal hookups. Remove the trap, get the channels. The analog box was put in place as cable companies scrambled the 2nd tier. The box was the enforcer and it worked well.
Having a good portion of my time as "cable cop" in my systems, I know this policy very well.
In the end, it primarily depended, traps, on if systems wanted to deal with rolling trucks to mess with passive traps, or use the active cable box which gave greater control of the system. |
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