SUMware
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Re: Firefox 3 honors Windows Security Zones...
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sivran
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| said by SUMware  :Exactly. Pssst. What is the awesome bar? I must not have noticed it when I tried FF3.
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BandHeight
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| said by sivran :Pssst. What is the awesome bar? I must not have noticed it when I tried FF3. I'll bump the font so others can hear as well.
It's the term being applied to the location bar (I think it was referred to, perhaps unofficially, as the "almighty bar" during the beta phase ... now its just "awesome").
There have been many complaints about the location bar in FF 3.0, some involving its appearance (without mods, it takes up a lot of real estate), some involving the search algorithm (it picks up a lot more results that some people don't want included), some involving the fact that it lists all URLs and not just the ones you manually type in, etc.
See here for some ways to get it back to the old-style as much as possible (the search algorithm is not modifiable, however):
»How to get yellow address bar with SSL in firefox 3 |
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sivran
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| Oh, right. That thing. For some reason, I was thinking it was an actual toolbar or something. Opera 9.5 does the same thing. I find it useful on rare occasions but annoying most of the time. I'd want a way to quickly (read: not involving about:config) turn it on and off. Maybe even have it only behave that way if I typed words, rather than an address.
Thankfully my primary browser, SeaMonkey, doesn't bug me with such things. 
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OZO
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| said by sivran :Thankfully my primary browser, SeaMonkey, doesn't bug me with such things. I see your point.
I do not support the use of ADS at all. I think with introducing those ADS'a in SP2 m$ has actually opened Pandora's box. ADS's may be very easily misused. I hope we realize that, for example, under the Notepad.exe name a smart guy may hide folders and folders of any files (creating actually a whole new FS). And with current state of public knowledge and tools to find and work with ADS's - it's obvious to me that it's a dangerous thing that just wait to show its ugly head...
I try to keep amount of ADS's on my NTFS at minimum level. I do not allow IE to create ADS's on my downloaded files. I know, that I've downloaded them. And I do not need any reminder about that. There are probably a few files that currently have ADS's on my HD. And I watch it carefully.
That's why I think this tendency of Mozilla to embrace this move towards spreading ADS's in not the right thing for computer security. But, of cause, they may don't care...
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Mele20
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said by BandHeight : Keep digging around. Something's still a little funky. Avira is now invoked on Vista by Fx3 Download Manager. I watched it scanning (at least Download Manager showed my AV scanning so I assume it was scanning) during a download of a Microsoft Patch a little while ago. The patch is for IE8 which I also have on a machine with XP so I just now downloaded the patch on that machine. Avira was not invoked during the download by Fx3 Download Manager. I have the same settings for Firefox and IE on both versions of Windows.
There is a thread in the Avira forum where an Avira tech posted yesterday and said that the Fx3 problem was fixed (and was online) in regards to the Download Manager. He didn't elaborate so I still am puzzled as to why the scan is invoked on Vista but not XP.
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Herohtar
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You actually do not have to modify the Security Zones settings at all -- the browser.download.manager.scanWhenDone setting is responsible for adding the ADS. If you disable that, the zone information will no longer be added and you won't get the security warning.
More information can be found here: »blog.case.edu/bes7/2008/04/21/re···refox_30 |
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HA Nut
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None of this discussion affects XP Home right? Since it doesn't support Group Policies? |
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jmorlan
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| said by HA Nut :None of this discussion affects XP Home right? Since it doesn't support Group Policies? XP Home is affected. It's not Group Policies. It is about the security tab settings under "Internet Properties" accessible via Control Panel or IE. There are four zones; Internet, Local Intranet, Trusted Sites & Restricted Sites. FF3 now pays some attention to those security settings.
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BandHeight
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said by Herohtar :You actually do not have to modify the Security Zones settings at all -- the browser.download.manager.scanWhenDone setting is responsible for adding the ADS. If you disable that, the zone information will no longer be added and you won't get the security warning. More information can be found here: » blog.case.edu/bes7/2008/04/21/re···refox_30 It works partially:
said by BandHeight :To make this most effective, I still say that there should be a Master On / Off option. As it stands now, simply setting: browser.download.manager.scanWhenDone false is problematic: - it turns off AV scanning, which is expected - it impacts FF zone policy functionality, which is unexpected and even perhaps baffling unless you know that they share common APIs - it impacts FF zone functionality, but only partially, e.g., it prevents ADS from being embedded in files, but it still honors the blocking of downloads from URLs in Zone 4 (at least per my testing). |
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BandHeight
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said by Mele20 :There is a thread in the Avira forum where an Avira tech posted yesterday and said that the Fx3 problem was fixed (and was online) in regards to the Download Manager. He didn't elaborate so I still am puzzled as to why the scan is invoked on Vista but not XP. Thank you for the info. I'll check up on it. |
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