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KenNeon

@bea.com
reply to raptor1418
Re: Partners in Crime.

I think you meant WEE on the people.


tao
Chaos Impends
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join:2000-12-03
Lansing, MI
reply to Kilroy
And "How hard does DRM have to bite before businesses abandon it? The plural is never otherwise.

GMP

ackman

join:2000-10-04
Acworth, GA

reply to n2jtx
said by n2jtx See Profile :

said by BabyBear See Profile :

Are there any politicians willing to stand up for what's 'right' out there any more!?! Instead of the ones that stuff their pockets for their re-election campaigns.
No. They will do whatever the leader tells them to do.

Heck, the constitution has not really be in force since a state of emergency was declare in 1933. Yes we pretend it is but when push comes to shove, "your papers comrade".
Remember that Bush characterized FISA as useless because it was so old. That would mean the US Constitution isn't worth the paper it was written on either. The rule of the day isn't the US Constitution, it is Neo-con Daddies leading all the scared-to-incontinence little American bunnies afraid that Osama is going to show up on their front porch and kill them personally. Yep, we're a proud bunch of chicken sh1ts...

ackman

join:2000-10-04
Acworth, GA

reply to raptor1418
said by raptor1418 See Profile :

Welcome to business representative government. "We the People" don't seem to matter in government eyes anymore.
It has a name, it's called Fascism, and Democracy is relegated to being a trite little outdated theory.


La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
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Warwick, NY
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reply to Joe12345678
said by Joe12345678 See Profile :

said by BabyBear See Profile :

Are there any politicians willing to stand up for what's 'right' out there any more!?! Instead of the ones that stuff their pockets for their re-election campaigns.
obama
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Good joke. Try looking past the MSM "Golden Boy" image.

And "net neutrality"....now there's a good reason to elect someone, to hell with things that matter.
--
11,293 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11~~SARAH BRIGHTMAN SYMPHONY WORLD TOUR


DavePR

join:2008-06-04
reply to Kilroy
I sure hope you're kidding.


Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
reply to Joe12345678
Hardly.


n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online

reply to BabyBear
said by BabyBear See Profile :

Are there any politicians willing to stand up for what's 'right' out there any more!?! Instead of the ones that stuff their pockets for their re-election campaigns.
No. They will do whatever the leader tells them to do.

Heck, the constitution has not really be in force since a state of emergency was declare in 1933. Yes we pretend it is but when push comes to shove, "your papers comrade".

Blackened
Your Freedom Fries Are Stale

join:2003-09-29

reply to raptor1418
said by raptor1418 See Profile :

Welcome to business representative government. "We the People" don't seem to matter in government eyes anymore.
The idea of campaign finance reform comes up time after time, and none of them do anything about it.

Goes to show why companies have turned down the QA and turned up the marketing. Because people are stupid and let people sell them crap without giving them the product.

No surprise why the same stupid people keep getting elected, and why so many are in debt, as a few examples.

In regards to "we the people", that means, to Democrats, simply saying crap people who take a poll want to hear. They're basically like those who want local measures passed. They hire a marketing firm to find out what people want and the way to word it to get them to vote. They use statistics (actual formulas, not just looking at numbers or making them up) to find out what most people want to hear -- which words have the highest probability of succeeding per demographic, then proceed to tell it to them to get the vote, then make good on nearly none of their promises. Just helping friends, and themselves, of course.

Republicans (or maybe conservatives) simply care too much about everyone else's bedroom while completely pretending the skeletons in their closet don't exist, while pretending things that don't exist (or never did), like Jesus, do. The congregation votes based on things they hate, which, over the last few decades, include Blacks, Gays, Mexicans, Arabs, white women marrying black men. If it isn't turning back the clock on social progression, it's clearly Republican (conservative).

The FISA thing is certainly bipartisan. Because the rights of the constituents it affects matters for crap, so both sides can bargain away our rights. Hell, that's why Bush wants retroactive immunity for the telcom companies (Verizon/AT&T, for example). Wouldn't need retroactive immunity if they were doing something that was legal in the first place. FISA, a.k.a. the tools to "fight terrorism" were there all along. The administration just decided they didn't need no stinkin' rules or oversight or separation of powers. Which has been the common theme since January 2001.

As every year passes, I'm more and more glad I don't vote for either. I also enjoy hearing retards tell me I'm throwing away my vote by not singing the tune to a party line, as in, not taking it up the backside from the people who's name I'm chanting.
--
Moore/Alexander 2008

Conservatives love religious-like aphorisms so here's one: "Freedom isn't free. It's Made in China."

dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
reply to Joe12345678
Yeah- them Chicago politicians are a incorruptable, thoroughly honest bunch

Just ask Mr. Rezko, Obama's political fixer from back in the day.


Kilroy
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join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI
·WOW Internet and C..

reply to BabyBear
If it protects us from terrorists and protects children it must be okay and we should pass it without question, especially if the president says we must.

Everyone is looking short term and not looking long term.
--
How hard does DRM have to bite before business abandon it?


Pv8man999

@wideopenwest.com
reply to Joe12345678
yep, and at least obama supports net neutrality

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

reply to BabyBear
said by BabyBear See Profile :

Are there any politicians willing to stand up for what's 'right' out there any more!?! Instead of the ones that stuff their pockets for their re-election campaigns.
obama

raptor1418
Premium
join:2002-12-03
Denver, CO
reply to BabyBear
Welcome to business representative government. "We the People" don't seem to matter in government eyes anymore.


DjVaGGo
Premium
join:2004-10-23
Astoria, NY


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reply to BabyBear
said by BabyBear See Profile :

Are there any politicians willing to stand up for what's 'right' out there any more!?! Instead of the ones stuff their pockets for their re-election campaigns.
NO


BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Night-Owl

join:2007-01-11


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Are there any politicians willing to stand up for what's 'right' out there any more!?! Instead of the ones that stuff their pockets for their re-election campaigns.
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