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Ratman_84

join:2002-01-31
Sacramento, CA

reply to Siko
Re: So, I just bought Counter Strike Today

I win at least 50% of the CS rounds I play. That's only once or twice a year when one of my friends convinces me to play it with them.

It makes my fingers and my brain bored.

TFC, along with many other games, occupy my reflexes and strategic skills far more than CS.

And the percentage of hackers in CS far exceeds the percentage in any other game I've played.


kywirelessgu
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You're just a downer man, I respect that you don't like the game, but to come in and tell someone that just bought it they should uninstall it is kind of harsh. Especially considering how many more people play(ed) cs than tfc.

Like I said, I started with tfc, still like it when I can hop on one of the few non-bot servers left running. I didn't come from the Q2 team fortress though, so I'm not a very big fan of TF2.

And I'm gonna call bullshit on TFC requiring more strategy than CS. Especially when you start to talk about competitive CS. Its the same engine, so reflexes really are moot in my eyes. A dude gets into your field of vision and you aim at him. Both games have different guns which require different aiming, but in the end the reflexes required to kill Joe Schmoe is going to be the same.

I'm not going to try to talk you into liking CS, you'll never like it, you've made your decision, but you don't need to come in here with the sole purpous of trashing the game. You can't argue the popularity of the game. The numbers don't lie.

And I can't freakin find the numbers. What happened to the itemized list of steam games with the number of players?

You just said you only play once or twice a year and then you go on to spout about the percentage of hackers...uh...

I play several hours per week and I might, MIGHT, run into one blatant hacker per evening, and since I play on servers with admins they get kicked pretty darn quick. I spent alot of time in a CS community where the Admin/Owner was always the first to yell hacker. He was such a sore loser. It was a steambans server and every demo he'd submit came back negative. And he played for YEARS.

After 8 years of playing this game, I'm sure some of these kids can do some pretty crazy things. I on the other hand have been playing 6+ years and I still suck, but I rarely call anyone a hacker.

That turned out really long. I think you're just trying to bait me Ratman. You might as well be talking shit about my mom, I love this damn game.


sapo
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All the way with you there, TFC and TF2 will stay behind CS and CS:S. The reflex arguments and strategic crap is all subjective for the most part. All I know is that CS is more competitive, if you wanted to game like a pro you pick CS not TF.


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WolfManz611..: What game that supports PunkBuster is the least hacked/exploited? and do you happen to know why its the least hacked/exploited game?

Tony Ray..: Over the years, popularity of a game has always determined the level of cheating. The more popular the game, the bigger the cheating problem. Punks who create game cheats and hacks generally do not waste their time if the game is not being played online by lots of people.
Tony Ray, founder of punkbuster project
»www.wolfmanzbytes.com/news/viewn···qPYwZirM

Thought this was a good quote.
quote:
WolfManz611..: Do you ever see a day where a online multiplayer game will be 100% cheat free?

Tony Ray..: Yes, the same day that society is 100% crime free. The children of darkness will always be willing to break rules in selfishness in hopes of getting away with it.

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tyler00
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join:2001-06-27
Pickering, ON
reply to Siko
Oh yeah, listen to someone who says "Don't play CS, play QUAKE 2!" lol


Ratman_84

join:2002-01-31
Sacramento, CA

reply to Siko
Sounds like you're actually trying pretty hard to convince me to like it.

You got your opinion, I got mine.

This is a message board. He asked. I said it sucked. I recommended what I believe are better games.

Don't cry.

Oh, and

"Its the same engine, so reflexes really are moot in my eyes. A dude gets into your field of vision and you aim at him. Both games have different guns which require different aiming, but in the end the reflexes required to kill Joe Schmoe is going to be the same."

That's just retarded and doesn't deserve the 2 paragraph response I could shoot that little gem down with.

And a lot of people like American Idol......do I need to elaborate?

Sorry I'm being a downer. Actually I'm sorry I have that much of an effect on your emotional status.


Disco Stu
PurpleDrank
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Yorktown, VA
damn son...you must really blow at CS to hate it that much...


sapo
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reply to Ratman_84
It's more like everyone plays Soccer and your only playing American Football. That analogy is a weak insult.


mrchris
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reply to Siko
Why do people even/still play this sad excuse for a game-mod?

Don't get me wrong, I gave it (original and Source versions) a few chances and I was not interested in the pace of action and this "1 life per round" rubbish, not to mention the countless idiots playing it and the useless custom sounds alongside mic use.


Ratman_84

join:2002-01-31
Sacramento, CA
reply to Siko
Yes....son, I do really suck at CS. That's why I usually win when I play. Thanks for your intelligent input. Now do something else intelligent and never have children.


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said by Ratman_84 See Profile :

Yes....son, I do really suck at CS. That's why I usually win when I play.
I'm not sure which one to believe.

said by Ratman_84 See Profile :

I win at least 50% of the CS rounds I play. That's only once or twice a year when one of my friends convinces me to play it with them.

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Disco Stu
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reply to Siko
think we struck a nerve...whoa...


Siko
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It seems I need to get at least 3/768. My 768k dsl is not working well. If people start spamming the mic then my ping shoots up to 3000... Also, My best k/d would be .500


kywirelessgu
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Go into setup. Turn off voice chat.

Or better yet, add voice_enable 0 to your config file.

I've been gladly voice chat free since its inception.


NightLinks
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join:2001-06-04
Bronx, NY

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I only mute those that need to be muted. I like when teammates use the mic to tell the position of the enemy.
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Smatchimo
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reply to kywirelessgu
said by kywirelessgu See Profile :

Go into setup. Turn off voice chat.

Or better yet, add voice_enable 0 to your config file.

I've been gladly voice chat free since its inception.
how do you get along without knowing where the enemy is?

I guess it might be less distracting, but often they give out good information like where the bomb/hosties are.
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shinjuru
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You don't need to hear their voice in order for the enemy to show up on your radar when anyone on your team sees the enemy.


kywirelessgu
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Its pretty easy to know where the enemy is. Sound is usually enough, but you can also look at the name of people as they head out of spawn and see the direction they are going, then reference your radar as soon as they kill or get killed you'll know where the enemy is.


sapo
I eat meat
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
reply to Smatchimo
What kind of servers do you play on where voice chat is actually used for strategy.


Elite

join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT
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reply to Siko
I've been playing CS 1.6 regularly since September 2003.

I own copies of quite a few PC shooters, including Quake 4, CoD4, and UT3. I've played a considerable amount of TF2 and CS:S, and even Call To Arms. So far, nothing has managed to replace CS 1.6, at least in my eyes.

Going on nearly 5 long, dedicated years of playing (most of that time being competitive play), I can surely say that CS 1.6 will always have a special place in my heart amongst any and all video games.

I only play for about 5 hours per week these days, but the game is still very popular and has an excellent playerbase.

And Valve has done a pretty decent job maintaining VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) over the past few months, and a well-admined server is generally hacker free.

It appears Steam removed the game's statistics from their site ages ago... probably because 1.6 had roughly 8 times the playerbase of some of their newer games, like CS:S. (Last time I saw the stats... maybe 1.5 years ago... CS had 180K concurrent players average in-game).

My advice: practice practice practice. Deathmatch is a great way to familiarize yourself with the game. You get free guns, and no waiting around to respawn. The pace usually isn't too fast either. You'll pick it up quickly.

I don't have much to say in regards to mic spam. Sometimes I disable voicecomm. It is indeed, just spam sometimes. However, sometimes it's not and is occasionally useful.

Good luck! You'll need it.
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