Re: Color me gone in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20677040 en Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:24:55 EDT Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:24:55 EDT Re: More lousy audio? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684552 amarryat :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

You're right.. I DON'T have a "boze" .. I think I know how to spell Bose.. I have them all over my house.

Still, the way you are describing the sound quality of XM in a way that I just can't believe. What kind of car do you have? what kind of sound system do you have? Based on what you're saying.. that system could be in a Scion.. "premium" is thrown around and the number of speakers doesn't necessarily make it any better either..

Not putting your car down, but I gave actual names behind my system.. why didn't you? Maybe GM does something to make an XM sound better than what you have.. I dunno. But, for what you are describing, well, maybe you're over exaggerating. I know what streaming audio sounds like on the net and I know what a properly installed XM factory head unit sounds like and they are NOTHING like what you are saying.. or, you just got ripped.
Since yesterday, I have been reading quite a bit around the internet and have discovered that I am not alone in this opinion. And as I said, my new audio system sounds great. From a review:

Audio systems - Two impressive audio systems are available in the 2008 Accord and Accord Coupe. The standard system features 160 watts, a single-disc CD player and six speakers. The premium audio system, which comes standard on EX-L and V-6 models, has a six-disc CD changer, 270 watts total amplification and seven speakers including a subwoofer. The systems use the central display screen found in all Accord trim levels. The systems include:
o Standard AM/FM/CD with MP3/WMA® playback, and new Radio Data System (RDS) function.
o All trim levels have MP3 capability and an auxiliary audio input jack.
o All trim levels have steering wheel audio controls.
o XM Satellite Radio is standard on all leather-equipped (EX-L and V-6) models.
o All trim levels have speed-sensitive volume control (SVC).

Mine is the latter. It sounds great with the kids iPods and my Sansa as well. I have burned CDs with 192kbps MP3's and they sound great as well. As I mentioned in another post, have you tried tuning in 210 - that will emphasize the point I am making.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684552 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:52:22 EDT Re: More lousy audio? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684172 fiberguy : You're right.. I DON'T have a "boze" .. I think I know how to spell Bose.. I have them all over my house.

Still, the way you are describing the sound quality of XM in a way that I just can't believe. What kind of car do you have? what kind of sound system do you have? Based on what you're saying.. that system could be in a Scion.. "premium" is thrown around and the number of speakers doesn't necessarily make it any better either..

Not putting your car down, but I gave actual names behind my system.. why didn't you? Maybe GM does something to make an XM sound better than what you have.. I dunno. But, for what you are describing, well, maybe you're over exaggerating. I know what streaming audio sounds like on the net and I know what a properly installed XM factory head unit sounds like and they are NOTHING like what you are saying.. or, you just got ripped.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684172 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:59:27 EDT Re: More lousy audio? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20682795 MadMANN :
said by amarryat See Profile :

Don't know how Sirius sounds, but XM quality is lousy. On the talk stations, it's horrendous. Sounds like streaming audio on the internet. Music is OK, but a strong FM signal is still far better.
I find the quality to be pretty good. I have heard XMs feeds and they are, indeed, slightly lower in quality. Although, I am pretty biased, since I am one of those idiot Stern fans who would listen to him through a can & string if need be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20682795 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:47:06 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681930 amarryat :
said by Neyland See Profile :

Well not a good channel to select for your argument. With that said, I'm sure you would say to pick any channel but selecting a Boston Traffic and Weather channel for audio quality.... of course it's going to have the least amount of bandwidth... all those types of channels will.

I chose that channel because it was blatantly obvious how bad the audio quality is on the talk stations. I listen to 121, and occasionally 150-154. They sound pretty bad too. Even my undiscerning wife notices. And I have tuned in 177 which would carry the same MLB broadcast as one of our local FM and AM stations - there is no comparison.

I do switch between 8, 9, 20, 22, 25, 26, 30, and 49. They sound OK. However they don't have the kick/punch of a CD, and they also lose quite a bit of the low end bass. FM doesn't sound as good as a CD either, but it is noticeably (to me) better than the XM music.

Edit - as I pointed out above that my wife notices the poor quality on the talk channels, she has also said that she'll subscribe in a second when she gets her next car.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681930 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:03:49 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681902 Neyland : Well not a good channel to select for your argument. With that said, I'm sure you would say to pick any channel but selecting a Boston Traffic and Weather channel for audio quality.... of course it's going to have the least amount of bandwidth... all those types of channels will.

Probably much like other sat companies, XM knows which of it's channels have more listeners and those channels are afforded more bandwidth than channels that have a much smaller audience.

Now, don't get me wrong... I know it's not cd quality.. but then I trade of programming access for some amount of quality.

As you pointed out in a lower post, I'm interested in seeing what they consider a premium channel.

My wife likes pop and top20. I listen to talk,news, SEC football, and my music tends to be more distortion based. My folks like the 50s and channels like watercolors and audio visions.

I would commute around 45 mins to work. My locals just gave me crap.. the morning shows were hack and the commercials... ugh. I still get some commercials on some sat channels, but that's mostly on mine. My wife and parents because they listen to almost all music get no commercials. We enjoy it.

We paid 3 years to bring the cost down to like $8.99 then $7 for each of the other radios in our 'family'.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681902 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:55:39 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681835 amarryat :
said by Neyland See Profile :

I disagree. Piped into my stereo through a direct feed it sounds just fine. But then I'm not an audiophile so you may hear something my inexperienced ears may not.

Some reading:

»www.codingtechnologies.com/news/···_eng.pdf
Try tuning channel 210 and tell me that sounds fine. Tinny and lispy.

FYI - not being rude. I am not an audiophile either, but probably closer than most.

Edit - just took a look at that website. The XM press releases were when they had 100 channels. Now they advertise 170, which means that they have to compress more for them to fit in the same bandwidth.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681835 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:40:14 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681802 Neyland : I disagree. Piped into my stereo through a direct feed it sounds just fine. But then I'm not an audiophile so you may hear something my inexperienced ears may not.

Some reading:

»www.codingtechnologies.com/news/···_eng.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681802 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:29:53 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20681668 JammerMan79 : makes sense... Humour of course is spelled the correct British way in Canada (along with colour etc.)
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said by maartena See Profile :
You are wrong, ALL music has royalties that need to be.... money is being moved from the radio station to the company who holds the royalty rights, which in turn gives part back to the artist.


In theory that may be whats supposed to happen, and if it 100% happened I wouldn't and alot of people probably wouldn't have an issue.

BUT.....

Enter corporate greed and lack of ethics and we have the music industries gestapo stormtroopers .. R I A A

When the $ might pay for CD, no DRM'd MP3, etc. goes from me to the artist. Fine. Till then. The system doesn't work that way. If it did we wouldn't see the endless stream of x suing for royalties from the record companies. And in the rare cases where the scumbags actually pay up, the amount that reaches the "artist(s)" is a pittance of what it should be. $0.90 of every $1 should goto the artists. The remaining $0.10 the scumbag record companies, managers, handlers can fight it out over.
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

Um, do you have an aftermarket radio? or one that's built in as a head unit or factory stereo?

Just about any aftermarket radio sounds like crap. The one that's installed in my Impala LTZ with a Boze Sound System sounds great. The aftermarket I have in my 98 F150 Lariet sounds "eh"...
Brand new car, factory premium audio system with 7 speakers including subwoofer. It sounds awesome. Just not on XM. I would rather listen to AM radio (while near the station) with a bit of hiss than the XM talk. At least the sound on the AM is not distorted from overcompression. I can live with the quality of the music channels, but they are not as good as FM, and nowhere near as good as a CD. If they would deliver the equivalent of 192kbps MP3, I would be thrilled, and that is what I had assumed.

BTW, I doubt you have a "Boze".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20680224 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:03:18 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20680063 Mactron :
said by maartena See Profile :

Well.... as you are in Santa Maria, CA - where they have Comcast for TV and Internet - And you probably are NOT going to vote with your pocketbook because they carry Howard Stern TV On Demand (and you "support that kind of trash" even if you have just the Internet side), I don't think anyone here is actually taking you seriously.

If you really felt that the fact that 1 single person is broadcasting on something you subscribe to, you would have switched to DSL for your internet, and went back to broadcast TV only. Because yes.... whaddayaknow, DirectTV has XM Radio Channels as well, and pretty soon you will be "supporting that kind of trash" by paying Direct TV.

I just have a hard time believing that would actually cancel with that as the primary reason. And it would be quite hypocritical to keep on Comcast if you indeed did cancel XM for that reason.

But hey....as long as it serves you, it isn't THAT bad that Howard Stern TV On Demand can be accessed through your VOD channel, or through the internet On Demand.

Lots of assumptions on your part... Sadly for you most are incorrect. My wallet voted Comcast out some time ago. ;)
You might take the time to read profiles here before making assumptions.
You don't take me seriously? I don't care if you do or not.
Your opinion on how I spend My money is unimportant.
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said by JammerMan79 See Profile :

There's no such thing as Canadian English... it's just English.
I think he meant to say Commonwealth English.

Yeah, there IS a Wikipedia article called "Canadian English" (says that it is Commonwealth English with "Canadianisms") but there's also one on "Boston English", "Baltimorese", and "Pittsburgh English".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20680058 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:17:10 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679915 JammerMan79 : There's no such thing as Canadian English... it's just English.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679915 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:30:10 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679849 fiberguy : Hey!

If it wasn't for "Howard Stern"... radio could be much worse. We could be listening to the 24 Hour christian/filtered radio network on every frequency ... Howard Stern did a LOT for radio and freedom of speech.

Don't be immature and make silly threats to fluff your chest; people see through that crap every day.

Simply enjoy your FM.. no, wait.. continue to enjoy your Satellite Radio because you aren't going to drop your radio over HS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679849 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:38:12 EDT Re: More lousy audio? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679848 fiberguy : Um, do you have an aftermarket radio? or one that's built in as a head unit or factory stereo?

Just about any aftermarket radio sounds like crap. The one that's installed in my Impala LTZ with a Boze Sound System sounds great. The aftermarket I have in my 98 F150 Lariet sounds "eh"... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679848 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:35:33 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679529 maartena : Well.... as you are in Santa Maria, CA - where they have Comcast for TV and Internet - And you probably are NOT going to vote with your pocketbook because they carry Howard Stern TV On Demand (and you "support that kind of trash" even if you have just the Internet side), I don't think anyone here is actually taking you seriously.

If you really felt that the fact that 1 single person is broadcasting on something you subscribe to, you would have switched to DSL for your internet, and went back to broadcast TV only. Because yes.... whaddayaknow, DirectTV has XM Radio Channels as well, and pretty soon you will be "supporting that kind of trash" by paying Direct TV.

I just have a hard time believing that would actually cancel with that as the primary reason. And it would be quite hypocritical to keep on Comcast if you indeed did cancel XM for that reason.

But hey....as long as it serves you, it isn't THAT bad that Howard Stern TV On Demand can be accessed through your VOD channel, or through the internet On Demand.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679529 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:58:16 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679373 james : Also:
said by Mactron See Profile :

Middle School English sure was was tough...
Maybe for you, persunallie I exselled ate it; that and debating, where I learned that if the only argument your opponent can muster is to criticize your use of the English language, you have won. (unless your debate was on your use of the English language)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679373 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:02:49 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679333 james :
said by Mactron See Profile :

By the way...
"humour" is spelled humor
It's not my fault your country doesn't speak proper English. You know... Like they speak in England.

Oh wait, that wasn't what we were talking about. Too bad you just proved what I suspected, that you're an ignorant, pretentious jackass who thinks that acting like you dont find funny things funny makes you sophisticated.
"Oh those proles and their blasted low class humour!" you might say. But eventually it will dawn on you that you're not upper class, you're not even upper middle class, you're just another disposable peon who could die this very second, and the world would keep on turning as if you never existed.

Enjoy your false sense of supremacy while it lasts. On your death bed you'll wish you werent so stuck up and enjoyed a good laugh while you were able.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20679333 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:51:16 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678887 amarryat :
said by Neyland See Profile :

Sounds fine to me and I get quality O&A radio.. what's to hate?
When it is played through a decent audio system, it does not sound good. In my opinion, this is how it works out: I'd say their music channels sound approximately like a 96kbps MP3, and their talk are worse than 64kbps MP3. On a portable radio, you probably wouldn't notice the difference between their music and FM, but I think that the talk audio would have a noticeable difference, even on a low end portable radio.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678887 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:51:41 EDT Re: More lousy audio? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678858 amarryat :
said by neonhomer See Profile :

I know what you mean there... I listen to XM 152 a lot, and it does sound like streamed audio. Two shows on 152 are from Real Radio 104.1 in Orlando, FL. If you listen to it on FM, and then listen to it on XM, you can definitely tell the difference. There is also a delay from "live" broadcast (they are on a 16 sec delay at the station) to being broadcast on XM. I think the feed they use is the same feed that is streamed to the Internet!

That channel, and XM 171 are the only reasons I have XM. Otherwise, I would be on Sirius. When the merger is said and done, I will see if I can get those two on Sirius, and then leave XM. If not, then I dunno.
I read somewhere that Sirius is even worse. But I have only heard XM, and that was starting last month. I like the selection, though I could probably narrow it down to 10 channels, and the rest I wouldn't miss. But I would like it to sound good! Plus around here there are plenty of FM stations - I have all 12 presets taken and there are others I would put on presets if I had more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678858 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:45:43 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678829 ifarrell : Actually it's Canadian English and American English if you all want to be Anal about this.
And I couldn't care less about Howard Stern. That's why there are a lot of other channels and an Off Button.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678829 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:39:53 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678675 jeffster1970 : I have Sirius, not for that idiot Howard Stern, but because they have some other wicked channels that XM couldn't provide...my favourite being BBC Radio 1 (Channel 11). You get to hear music that will take 5 years to crack the North American market. Howard Stern is around channel 100, I'll usually hit a good tune before I get that high. Besides, statistics claim that 95% of people can't count beyond 99, so, really, the merger would affect next to no one.
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That channel, and XM 171 are the only reasons I have XM. Otherwise, I would be on Sirius. When the merger is said and done, I will see if I can get those two on Sirius, and then leave XM. If not, then I dunno.
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I'm failing to see your argument...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678358 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:09:16 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678340 Neyland : Sounds fine to me and I get quality O&A radio.. what's to hate?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678340 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:03:02 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678167 amarryat :
said by CyaXM :

I canceled XM this week; same repetitive crap, low quality; I'll listen to my mp3's thank you very much :) Good luck with the merger :)
I agree. Always assumed satellite digital radio would sound great. Driving my new car home with the trial subscription, immediately noticed it is not so great, and talk stations were awful. Unless they give me some ridiculously great deal, I will let the trial run out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678167 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:54:12 EDT More lousy audio? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678161 amarryat :
said by MadMANN See Profile :

said by n2jtx See Profile :

Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music).
Actually, satellite radio pays for their music as well.
Don't know how Sirius sounds, but XM quality is lousy. On the talk stations, it's horrendous. Sounds like streaming audio on the internet. Music is OK, but a strong FM signal is still far better.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20678161 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:51:26 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677956 tcope :
said by CyaXM :

I canceled XM this week; same repetitive crap, low quality; I'll listen to my mp3's thank you very much :) Good luck with the merger :)
Don't like repetition but you listen to your collection of mp3s? So many things wrong with that statement.

Low quality... connect it directly to the radio.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677956 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:47:52 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677820 JammerMan79 : OR.. you could learn how to write english instead of American and you'd spell humour correctly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677820 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:02:35 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677740 EPS : If they introduce a la carte, you wouldn't have to pay for Stern, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677740 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:38:28 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677726 Mactron :
said by james See Profile :

Better a fan of bathroom humour than an opponent of free speech.
Where did you pull that one out of ?..
Never mind. You and Howard obviously have the same fixation.

said by james See Profile :

I'll stick with the only guy who will ask the tough questions, like do you like anal.
Now there's a monumental question for our time... :hmm:

By the way...
"humour" is spelled humor
"alot" correctly used is, a lot

Middle School English sure was was tough... :o
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said by Mactron See Profile :

Wow ! so many Fans of Middle School bathroom humor.
Better a fan of bathroom humour than an opponent of free speech. You've obviously never heard much of the Howard Stern show, there's alot to be said for someone who treats everyone he interviews with the same respect whether they're a millionaire or a prostitute.
You can stick with your phony interviewers, I'll stick with the only guy who will ask the tough questions, like do you like anal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677554 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:38:04 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677238 anon : I canceled XM this week; same repetitive crap, low quality; I'll listen to my mp3's thank you very much :) Good luck with the merger :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677238 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:54:31 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677202 Mactron : Wow ! so many Fans of Middle School bathroom humor. :huh:
Apparently voting with my pocketbook is an intolerant thing to do.
Others should pay support your idea of thinking or entertainment?
Socialism in the market place now?
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said by Mactron See Profile :

If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat.

As far as I know, they aren't forcing you to listen to anything. If you don't want to listen, you can simply change the channel.

I, for one, am I huge Howard fan, and look forward to any merger so I can get my MLB. :)
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said by Mactron See Profile :

If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat.
I won't pay any kind of $ that supports that trash, I'll go back the terrestrial waste land and an MP3 player.
Wahhhhhhh Howard Stern is so mean! WAHHHHHHHH.
You dont hear Howard's fans saying they'll leave because of that convict Martha Stewart "being shoved down their throat" or the religious channels on Sirius do you?
You're intolerant, that's your problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677151 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:28:24 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677134 maartena : You are wrong, ALL music has royalties that need to be paid. It's only a few cents per song played, but for every song you hear on your radio, albeit FM, AM, XM, Sirius..... money is being moved from the radio station to the company who holds the royalty rights, which in turn gives part back to the artist.

Don't like Willie Nelson because he is a left wing country hippie that smokes pot? TOO BAD, you are supporting his music by paying for satellite radio.

c'mon really.... pretty much EVERY subscription you pay for, newspapers, cable TV, satellite, internet, online services, your POOL cleaner or GARDNER that you pay on a monthly basis will spend money on SOMETHING you don't like. You really got to take that with a grain of salt, or you are going to be very bitter. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677134 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:24:01 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677126 MadMANN :
said by n2jtx See Profile :

Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music).
Actually, satellite radio pays for their music as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677126 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:20:52 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677114 maartena :
said by Mactron See Profile :

If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat.
I won't pay any kind of $ that supports that trash, I'll go back the terrestrial waste land and an MP3 player.
It is the competition, remember. ;)
Don't forget to drop your Comcast cable as Howard TV On Demand is available through Comcast. Even if you just have analog cable or internet throught them.... "you pay $ to support that kind of trash".

Or Maybe.... you should just choose what to listen to and skip the Howard Stern channel. Also, since both Sirius and XM radio offer certain uncensored channels, you have the option to LOCK that channel on your radio.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677114 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:17:41 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677112 n2jtx :
said by stickfigure See Profile :

wow, 2 channels for howard stern out of god knows how many they'll have with the merger and you think they'll somehow shove him down your throat? You realize you can make the choice to listen to something else on the 100+ channels and that your radio doesn't just randomly switch to Stern and stay there?

That's irrational as saying, "if country music gets shoved down my throat with this merger, I'm gone". I have more choices to choose from and can listen to something else...
Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music). That money has to come from somewhere and could in theory require a rate increase that all subscribers will have to pay. Yes, I believe there is a clause that they cannot raise rates but since they already broke the clause against merging I do not think any agreement against raising rates will stand either.
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I support the right to keep and arm bears.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677112 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:17:04 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677059 Dogfather : Don't let the door hit ya in the ass.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677059 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:02:55 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677056 stickfigure : wow, 2 channels for howard stern out of god knows how many they'll have with the merger and you think they'll somehow shove him down your throat? You realize you can make the choice to listen to something else on the 100+ channels and that your radio doesn't just randomly switch to Stern and stay there?

That's irrational as saying, "if country music gets shoved down my throat with this merger, I'm gone". I have more choices to choose from and can listen to something else...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677056 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:02:42 EDT Re: Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677040 Chad473 :
said by Mactron See Profile :

If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat.
I won't pay any kind of $ that supports that trash, I'll go back the terrestrial waste land and an MP3 player.
It is the competition, remember. ;)
neat. good riddance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20677040 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:59:31 EDT Color me gone http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20676994 Mactron : If that idiot Howard Stern gets shoved down my subscription throat.
I won't pay any kind of $ that supports that trash, I'll go back the terrestrial waste land and an MP3 player.
It is the competition, remember. ;)
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If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20676994 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:47:58 EDT