amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to fiberguy
Re: More lousy audio?
said by fiberguy  :You're right.. I DON'T have a "boze" .. I think I know how to spell Bose.. I have them all over my house. Still, the way you are describing the sound quality of XM in a way that I just can't believe. What kind of car do you have? what kind of sound system do you have? Based on what you're saying.. that system could be in a Scion.. "premium" is thrown around and the number of speakers doesn't necessarily make it any better either.. Not putting your car down, but I gave actual names behind my system.. why didn't you? Maybe GM does something to make an XM sound better than what you have.. I dunno. But, for what you are describing, well, maybe you're over exaggerating. I know what streaming audio sounds like on the net and I know what a properly installed XM factory head unit sounds like and they are NOTHING like what you are saying.. or, you just got ripped. Since yesterday, I have been reading quite a bit around the internet and have discovered that I am not alone in this opinion. And as I said, my new audio system sounds great. From a review:
Audio systems - Two impressive audio systems are available in the 2008 Accord and Accord Coupe. The standard system features 160 watts, a single-disc CD player and six speakers. The premium audio system, which comes standard on EX-L and V-6 models, has a six-disc CD changer, 270 watts total amplification and seven speakers including a subwoofer. The systems use the central display screen found in all Accord trim levels. The systems include:
o Standard AM/FM/CD with MP3/WMA® playback, and new Radio Data System (RDS) function.
o All trim levels have MP3 capability and an auxiliary audio input jack.
o All trim levels have steering wheel audio controls.
o XM Satellite Radio is standard on all leather-equipped (EX-L and V-6) models.
o All trim levels have speed-sensitive volume control (SVC).
Mine is the latter. It sounds great with the kids iPods and my Sansa as well. I have burned CDs with 192kbps MP3's and they sound great as well. As I mentioned in another post, have you tried tuning in 210 - that will emphasize the point I am making. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to amarryat
You're right.. I DON'T have a "boze" .. I think I know how to spell Bose.. I have them all over my house.
Still, the way you are describing the sound quality of XM in a way that I just can't believe. What kind of car do you have? what kind of sound system do you have? Based on what you're saying.. that system could be in a Scion.. "premium" is thrown around and the number of speakers doesn't necessarily make it any better either..
Not putting your car down, but I gave actual names behind my system.. why didn't you? Maybe GM does something to make an XM sound better than what you have.. I dunno. But, for what you are describing, well, maybe you're over exaggerating. I know what streaming audio sounds like on the net and I know what a properly installed XM factory head unit sounds like and they are NOTHING like what you are saying.. or, you just got ripped. |
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MadMANN
Premium
join:2005-08-19
 ·Comcast
| reply to amarryat
said by amarryat :Don't know how Sirius sounds, but XM quality is lousy. On the talk stations, it's horrendous. Sounds like streaming audio on the internet. Music is OK, but a strong FM signal is still far better. I find the quality to be pretty good. I have heard XMs feeds and they are, indeed, slightly lower in quality. Although, I am pretty biased, since I am one of those idiot Stern fans who would listen to him through a can & string if need be. |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| reply to maartena
Re: Color me gone
said by maartena :
You are wrong, ALL music has royalties that need to be.... money is being moved from the radio station to the company who holds the royalty rights, which in turn gives part back to the artist.
In theory that may be whats supposed to happen, and if it 100% happened I wouldn't and alot of people probably wouldn't have an issue.
BUT.....
Enter corporate greed and lack of ethics and we have the music industries gestapo stormtroopers .. R I A A
When the $ might pay for CD, no DRM'd MP3, etc. goes from me to the artist. Fine. Till then. The system doesn't work that way. If it did we wouldn't see the endless stream of x suing for royalties from the record companies. And in the rare cases where the scumbags actually pay up, the amount that reaches the "artist(s)" is a pittance of what it should be. $0.90 of every $1 should goto the artists. The remaining $0.10 the scumbag record companies, managers, handlers can fight it out over.
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to fiberguy
Re: More lousy audio?
said by fiberguy :Um, do you have an aftermarket radio? or one that's built in as a head unit or factory stereo? Just about any aftermarket radio sounds like crap. The one that's installed in my Impala LTZ with a Boze Sound System sounds great. The aftermarket I have in my 98 F150 Lariet sounds "eh"... Brand new car, factory premium audio system with 7 speakers including subwoofer. It sounds awesome. Just not on XM. I would rather listen to AM radio (while near the station) with a bit of hiss than the XM talk. At least the sound on the AM is not distorted from overcompression. I can live with the quality of the music channels, but they are not as good as FM, and nowhere near as good as a CD. If they would deliver the equivalent of 192kbps MP3, I would be thrilled, and that is what I had assumed.
BTW, I doubt you have a "Boze". |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to amarryat
Um, do you have an aftermarket radio? or one that's built in as a head unit or factory stereo?
Just about any aftermarket radio sounds like crap. The one that's installed in my Impala LTZ with a Boze Sound System sounds great. The aftermarket I have in my 98 F150 Lariet sounds "eh"... |
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to neonhomer
said by neonhomer :I know what you mean there... I listen to XM 152 a lot, and it does sound like streamed audio. Two shows on 152 are from Real Radio 104.1 in Orlando, FL. If you listen to it on FM, and then listen to it on XM, you can definitely tell the difference. There is also a delay from "live" broadcast (they are on a 16 sec delay at the station) to being broadcast on XM. I think the feed they use is the same feed that is streamed to the Internet! That channel, and XM 171 are the only reasons I have XM. Otherwise, I would be on Sirius. When the merger is said and done, I will see if I can get those two on Sirius, and then leave XM. If not, then I dunno. I read somewhere that Sirius is even worse. But I have only heard XM, and that was starting last month. I like the selection, though I could probably narrow it down to 10 channels, and the rest I wouldn't miss. But I would like it to sound good! Plus around here there are plenty of FM stations - I have all 12 presets taken and there are others I would put on presets if I had more. |
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neonhomer
Honoray Mythbuster
Premium
join:2004-01-27
Edgewater, FL
clubs:
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| reply to amarryat
I know what you mean there... I listen to XM 152 a lot, and it does sound like streamed audio. Two shows on 152 are from Real Radio 104.1 in Orlando, FL. If you listen to it on FM, and then listen to it on XM, you can definitely tell the difference. There is also a delay from "live" broadcast (they are on a 16 sec delay at the station) to being broadcast on XM. I think the feed they use is the same feed that is streamed to the Internet!
That channel, and XM 171 are the only reasons I have XM. Otherwise, I would be on Sirius. When the merger is said and done, I will see if I can get those two on Sirius, and then leave XM. If not, then I dunno.
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to MadMANN
said by MadMANN :said by n2jtx :Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music). Actually, satellite radio pays for their music as well. Don't know how Sirius sounds, but XM quality is lousy. On the talk stations, it's horrendous. Sounds like streaming audio on the internet. Music is OK, but a strong FM signal is still far better. |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to n2jtx
Re: Color me gone
You are wrong, ALL music has royalties that need to be paid. It's only a few cents per song played, but for every song you hear on your radio, albeit FM, AM, XM, Sirius..... money is being moved from the radio station to the company who holds the royalty rights, which in turn gives part back to the artist.
Don't like Willie Nelson because he is a left wing country hippie that smokes pot? TOO BAD, you are supporting his music by paying for satellite radio.
c'mon really.... pretty much EVERY subscription you pay for, newspapers, cable TV, satellite, internet, online services, your POOL cleaner or GARDNER that you pay on a monthly basis will spend money on SOMETHING you don't like. You really got to take that with a grain of salt, or you are going to be very bitter.  |
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MadMANN
Premium
join:2005-08-19
·Comcast
| reply to n2jtx
said by n2jtx :Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music). Actually, satellite radio pays for their music as well. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online
| reply to stickfigure
said by stickfigure :wow, 2 channels for howard stern out of god knows how many they'll have with the merger and you think they'll somehow shove him down your throat? You realize you can make the choice to listen to something else on the 100+ channels and that your radio doesn't just randomly switch to Stern and stay there? That's irrational as saying, "if country music gets shoved down my throat with this merger, I'm gone". I have more choices to choose from and can listen to something else... Not that I really care since I do not have either service but Howard Stern has a contract and has to be paid (unlike Country Music). That money has to come from somewhere and could in theory require a rate increase that all subscribers will have to pay. Yes, I believe there is a clause that they cannot raise rates but since they already broke the clause against merging I do not think any agreement against raising rates will stand either.
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
| reply to Mactron
wow, 2 channels for howard stern out of god knows how many they'll have with the merger and you think they'll somehow shove him down your throat? You realize you can make the choice to listen to something else on the 100+ channels and that your radio doesn't just randomly switch to Stern and stay there?
That's irrational as saying, "if country music gets shoved down my throat with this merger, I'm gone". I have more choices to choose from and can listen to something else... |
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