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Tzale
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What else is new... Screw the customer... Taxes are wrong.

-Tzale


tschmidt
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Milford, NH
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said by Tzale:

Taxes are wrong.
So how do you propose funding government services?

/tom

MrSpock29

join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ

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said by tschmidt:

said by Tzale:

Taxes are wrong.
So how do you propose funding government services?

/tom
When the country was founded, the Fed. gov't was supposed to provide basic fundamental services, like delivering the mail, national defense, and the Treasury, to name a few.
Maybe there are just too many gov't services that require funding.
Before the 16th amendment, there were no Fed. taxes. When they were implemented, it was 1% for all.


HD_Ride
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Trenton, NJ
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reply to tschmidt

said by tschmidt:

said by Tzale:

Taxes are wrong.
So how do you propose funding government services?

/tom
He’s from NJ, he knows if Massachusetts is anything like NJ they will only waste it anyway. It’s very simple if they don’t get it they can’t waste it. NJ got casino gaming and the lottery very early on and even with those key assets every year at this time the state cries broke only to raise taxes on the middle class. A few years ago it was the added shore/motel tax, then the 1% sales tax increase plus additional tax increases. This year they proposed toll tax increase which is perfect with the gas prices. With any luck this year we will have another State shutdown and never reopen….


Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

reply to tschmidt
By cutting services.

The problem is gov't spends like a bunch of drunken sailors. If they would at least make a small effort to control their spending, they wouldn't need to endlessly raise taxes.


MrSpock29

join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ

reply to HD_Ride

said by HD_Ride:

said by tschmidt:

said by Tzale:

Taxes are wrong.
So how do you propose funding government services?

/tom
He’s from NJ, he knows if Massachusetts is anything like NJ they will only waste it anyway. It’s very simple if they don’t get it they can’t waste it. NJ got casino gaming and the lottery very early on and even with those key assets every year at this time the state cries broke only to raise taxes on the middle class. A few years ago it was the added shore/motel tax, then the 1% sales tax increase plus additional tax increases. This year they proposed toll tax increase which is perfect with the gas prices. With any luck this year we will have another State shutdown and never reopen….
Yeah, don't you love how they raised one tax (sales) to use part of that revenue for tax relief elsewhere? (property)

Only in NJ is it considered good policy to raise one tax to cut another.........


HD_Ride
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Trenton, NJ

Since Brendan Byrne going forward it’s been all down hill however Cozine & McGreedy have to be the worst



NetAdmin1
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join:2008-05-22

reply to MrSpock29

said by MrSpock29:

When the country was founded, the Fed. gov't was supposed to provide basic fundamental services, like delivering the mail, national defense, and the Treasury, to name a few.
Maybe there are just too many gov't services that require funding.
Before the 16th amendment, there were no Fed. taxes. When they were implemented, it was 1% for all.
This is a state tax...
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MrSpock29

join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ

said by NetAdmin1:

said by MrSpock29:

When the country was founded, the Fed. gov't was supposed to provide basic fundamental services, like delivering the mail, national defense, and the Treasury, to name a few.
Maybe there are just too many gov't services that require funding.
Before the 16th amendment, there were no Fed. taxes. When they were implemented, it was 1% for all.
This is a state tax...
Yes, of course it is.


NetAdmin1
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join:2008-05-22

said by MrSpock29:

said by NetAdmin1:

This is a state tax...
Yes, of course it is.
The only reason I mentioned it was because you were talking about the federal government and federal taxes...
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NetAdmin1
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reply to Tzale

said by Tzale:

What else is new... Screw the customer... Excessive, unneeded Taxes are wrong.
Tweaked it for you...

The big problem with this is that the poles have already been "taxed" in the form of the fees required for the ROW that are paid by these companies. In essence, this is a double dip.
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to Tzale
this is more of a Double Screw on the customer. the taxes get mixed into the phone bill, on top of the existing taxes the customer is already charged for their services and the unfees.
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Ulmo

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San Jose, CA
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reply to tschmidt

said by tschmidt:

said by Tzale:

Taxes are wrong.
So how do you propose funding government services?

/tom
I say reduce the government services to a point that the taxation is reasonable.

Start with welfare and schools.


jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH

reply to NetAdmin1
plus how prominent was telephones when the country was formed ehhhhh. maybe thats why you didnt see them mentioning telephone with mail and national defense.
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MrSpock29

join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ

reply to NetAdmin1

said by NetAdmin1:

said by MrSpock29:

said by NetAdmin1:

This is a state tax...
Yes, of course it is.
The only reason I mentioned it was because you were talking about the federal government and federal taxes...
I know, but I took the comment I was responding too as a generalization, and not really just about this tax. In fact, I took both comments that way. But I think there is a point made there in either instance.


morbo
Complete Your Transaction

join:2002-01-22
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reply to NetAdmin1
consider it retaliation for "un-fees"



MrMoody
Free range slave
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join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC

reply to HD_Ride

said by HD_Ride:

It's very simple if they don't get it they can't waste it.
Wrong! Just ask GW. Of course states don't have unlimited borrowing power though ...
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HD_Ride
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said by MrMoody:

said by HD_Ride:

It's very simple if they don't get it they can't waste it.
Wrong! Just ask GW. Of course states don't have unlimited borrowing power though ...
Obviously you don’t know anything about NJ, once Trenton gets it they will waste it. That's why many NJ folks move once they retire, they can't afford to live here on a fixed income.

EDIT:
For your perusal
»www.nj.com/corruption/stories/in···ery.html


jbob
Reach Out and Touch Someone
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join:2004-04-26
Little Rock, AR

reply to tschmidt

said by tschmidt:

said by Tzale:

Taxes are wrong.
So how do you propose funding government services?

/tom
Taxing by the government should be for government services. The public utility structures were put in place and paid for by the public utilities to support business. They are not provided by government services. This would be like taxation without representation. Similar to what NY does by taxing telecommuters who do not live in NY.


MrMoody
Free range slave
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Smithfield, NC

reply to HD_Ride
My point was, they don't need to actually get it in order to waste it ... borrow and spend!
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