Re: Why North Carolina ?? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20684692 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:38:19 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:38:19 EDT Re: Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20690577 Matt :
said by smcallah See Profile :

It's not yet a "success story." The service has just started.

Wilson, NC does not have enough households to pay for this service. They wish to fund it without tax payer money going forward, and that is just not possible, even with 100% of the people signing up for cable, phone, and Internet.

It would be ridiculous to think that 100% of those households have all of those services from incumbents now, and it would be more ridiculous to think they'd suddenly decide to get them all from Wilson.
They have plenty of household to pay for this service. They are coming in at less than Time Warner for all services, or individual services. It looks like they are at an absolutely minimum $10/month cheaper (per product) for a better product than Time Warner.

You are also missing the point that the city has had their own fiber optic network for 3 years and they've already extended this to businesses ... so businesses and residents can both utilize this network.

In addition to that, most businesses and residents are located very close. They have a population density of 2000 people per square mi. We only have a population density of 1100 square mile and my ILEC is making money hand over fist with their BPON service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20690577 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:20:42 EDT Re: Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20690501 smcallah : It's not yet a "success story." The service has just started.

Wilson, NC does not have enough households to pay for this service. They wish to fund it without tax payer money going forward, and that is just not possible, even with 100% of the people signing up for cable, phone, and Internet.

It would be ridiculous to think that 100% of those households have all of those services from incumbents now, and it would be more ridiculous to think they'd suddenly decide to get them all from Wilson.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20690501 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:07:31 EDT Re: Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20688443 dvd536 :
said by Daddy See Profile :

I don't understand why they choose NC, Unless it's easier to get approval to install internet there then it is in Other states. Greenlight should come on down to New York. I'm not waiting 4 years for Fios
Hey at least you got a chance of getting fios. no hope here in qworstland.
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Greenlight is the City of Wilson’s community-owned all fiber optic network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684635 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:27:47 EDT Re: Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684772 Matt :
said by Daddy See Profile :

I don't understand why they choose NC, Unless it's easier to get approval to install internet there then it is in Other states. Greenlight should come on down to New York. I'm not waiting 4 years for Fios
"Greenlight is a service of the City of Wilson, NC"

That's why they chose Wilson, NC. Sorry, you won't see it any time soon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684772 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:46:50 EDT Re: Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684704 JSRoman : »money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag···540.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684704 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:30:15 EDT Re: Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684692 nasadude :
said by Daddy See Profile :

I don't understand why they choose NC, ...
I don't think Greenlight chose NC, the city of Wilson, NC chose them.

the incumbents definitely don't like this story, because it's a success story which makes them look bad. Nothing shows the attitude of the incumbents better than this:

"A few days ago, the Buchans signed up for cable, Internet and phone service through Greenlight. Even with two DVR boxes, more sports channels and 20 Mbps in speed, Gentry anticipates paying $50 less per month. "When I called to cancel Time Warner, they told me there was no way I was getting the speeds I was getting for the price I was paying—they didn't believe me.""

With the money Time Warner spends on lobbying AGAINST letting municipalities do this, they probably could have done fiber for Wilson.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684692 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:26:50 EDT Re: Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684683 w4ncr : Wilson is a lovely town and even from years past always had modern ideas as in years ago I lived in Rocky Mount and then blue laws were in effect and Rocky Mount did not open stores for shopping on Sunday so I just drove down to Wilson to do my shopping and they did not have blue laws.
Does not surprise me at all that this city stepped out and got their own Fios, if they had a major transportation system there, might consider moving there myself.
To clarify the only two cities in North Carolina to get fiber to your home is Wilson and Salisbury, because they did their own, and in South Carolina only North Myrtle Beach has fiber to the home.This fiber in South Carolina installed by wonderful Verizon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684683 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:24:59 EDT Re: Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684679 GOLFnSUN :
said by Daddy See Profile :

Greenlight should come on down to New York. I'm not waiting 4 years for Fios
Greenlight is not a PRIVATE company that will do business elsewhere. It is a service of the city.

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where on the other hand nobody gives a crap about wilson, nc]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684645 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:15:51 EDT Why North Carolina ?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684617 Daddy : I don't understand why they choose NC, Unless it's easier to get approval to install internet there then it is in Other states. Greenlight should come on down to New York. I'm not waiting 4 years for Fios]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20684617 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:04:59 EDT