said by Jabus :

If TSI needs an insider and needs to fight dirty to win....What makes them any better than Bell in the overall scheme of things?

said by Capharnaum :

Remember that criteria for a congestion isn't that there's an overload. It's just that their "limit" (which isn't 100%) was passed four times out of 1344 checks within a two week span (if I understand the documents correctly). Then that dslam is labeled as "congestioned". It doesn't mean that the dslam was overloaded at any time during the month.

It's pretty shady.

said by Capharnaum :

]Why not just throttle the upstream then?

said by R0CKY :

Any price tags on these?

said by NM :

This is what pisses me off: if the throttled speed is 30KB/sec that means that a fully utilized download is about 75GB/month. 99% of the users (including P2P) don't exhaust the 75GB cap. Given that, if I choose to download a large file via P2P (e.g. a distro) I want to get that frickin file as soon as possible.

If the argument of congested links proves to be valid (unlikely) I still want to pick the GB cap as opposed to slow download speed.

said by davidbrown :

Can i know for sure..no..but its a bet any gambler would take in a min.

said by mr_hexen :

I did the numbers on page 1 or 2. it's 0.37% time.

if the available time over 14 days is congested as little as 0.37% they mark the entire 14 days as congested 24/7.

riiiight.

said by DSL_Ricer :

If you were trying to call 911 on a voip phone during that 0.37% of the time, would you be OK with the congestion?

A couple month ago Teksavvy failed to account for how long it would take Bell to install another Gig-E. That was a pretty awful few weeks.
Bell's criteria for considering a link congested isn't all that bad. Their decision to solve it with DPI, however, was.

Now can someone please explain to me exactly from where to where in the network diagram their DSLAM category is, and why they can't selectively target traffic on congested links?

said by DSL_Ricer :

Now can someone please explain to me exactly from where to where in the network diagram their DSLAM category is, and why they can't selectively target traffic on congested links?

said by Mr 5percent :

Correct. Bell's original data was based on one month (april I believe) and included EVERYTHING over the network; dial-up, probably cell data xfers, basic light speeds, and anything using the IP network most likely like digital phone.

This in turn lowered their "average" user B/W usage to about 10-gigs. (I believe they claimed most users use under 10-gigs per month and anyone using over 59-gigs is a 5% bandwidth hog who made the throttle necessary)

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