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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

No

What the US absolutely must have by 2012 is universal health care. I'd willingly go back to dial-up if every resident of this country got health-care as a result.

Sure, having a decent broadband infrastructure would help competitiveness, but that boat sailed a long time ago when we shipped our factories to China and our software development to India and imported Mexicans to make our fast food and cut our grass. 100Mbps won't fix that.
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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
Premium
join:2003-02-20
Minneapolis, MN
clubs:
Waste of breathe the current ISPs will fight tooth and nail to stay where they are and Kevin Martin really doesn't seem to care.

Nobody will listen and nobody wants to flt the bill.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
Kevin doesn't care because he has a high paying job waiting for him at ATT as soon as he's done fucking the nation in his current position.
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XBL2009
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest

reply to kapil
said by kapil See Profile :

What the US absolutely must have by 2012 is universal health care. I'd willingly go back to dial-up if every resident of this country got health-care as a result.

Sure, having a decent broadband infrastructure would help competitiveness, but that boat sailed a long time ago when we shipped our factories to China and our software development to India and imported Mexicans to make our fast food and cut our grass. 100Mbps won't fix that.
We need 100mbps, better health care, electric cars, bridges rebuilt, hospitals built, rebuilt school systems. If only the US would stop wasting so much money on stupid things.

AricBrown

join:2002-12-11
Amarillo, TX
·Cox HSI

reply to kapil
said by kapil See Profile :

What the US absolutely must have by 2012 is universal health care. I'd willingly go back to dial-up if every resident of this country got health-care as a result.

The US already has universal health care. You get hurt or sick anywhere in the country you can go to a doctor ANYWHERE. What YOU want is for the government (ie ME) to pay for your health care.


Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast

reply to kapil
said by kapil See Profile :

What the US absolutely must have by 2012 is universal health care. I'd willingly go back to dial-up if every resident of this country got health-care as a result.
NO THANKS!


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to AricBrown
said by AricBrown See Profile :

The US already has universal health care. You get hurt or sick anywhere in the country you can go to a doctor ANYWHERE. What YOU want is for the government (ie ME) to pay for your health care.
That's not true and you know it.

As far as YOU paying for it . Leet me ask yo is peoel wthout health get sick and don't go to the doctor and misses work and that hurts the economy that's going to cost you a lot more. If they end up so bad the end up in the ER sure then you'll pay REAL big for their health care. $50 doctor visit or $500 ER visit you're paying for one or the other, CHOOSE.


n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online

reply to AricBrown
said by AricBrown See Profile :

The US already has universal health care. You get hurt or sick anywhere in the country you can go to a doctor ANYWHERE. What YOU want is for the government (ie ME) to pay for your health care.
Only if you have insurance coverage. Otherwise, you go to a county hospital and let the rest of us pick up the tab for you. At least here in New York, if you do not pay taxes, you are under 18 or over 65 you get Universal Health Care. Those of us who do not fall into those categories, pay for it.
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n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online

reply to XBL2009
said by XBL2009 See Profile :

We need 100mbps, better health care, electric cars, bridges rebuilt, hospitals built, rebuilt school systems. If only the US would stop wasting so much money on stupid things.
It will never happen. Issawi's Law of Conservation of Evil states: "The total amount of evil in any system remains constant. Hence, any diminution in one direction - for instance, a reduction in poverty or unemployment - is accompanied by an increase in another, e.g. crime or air pollution."

Therefore, you can never remove all the waste or inefficiency because it will only pop up in some other form. Also, as an immutable law of the Universe, it cannot be changed.
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DrZEUS

join:2004-01-13
Mississauga, ON


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said by XBL2007 :

We need 100mbps, better health care, electric cars, bridges rebuilt, hospitals built, rebuilt school systems. If only the US would stop wasting so much money on stupid things.
...you mean war? ding ding ding ding

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

reply to n2jtx
I believe the current administration has caused this law to become out of whack and that the supply of evil has increased substantially. This implies that we are due for an uptick in good to bring the supply of evil back to it's original balance.

that being said, it ain't gonna happen with broadband, because the government of this country just doesn't seem to give a sh1t if we have fast, inexpensive, widely deployed broadband or not.


Bigot

@tenet.edu

reply to kapil
said by kapil See Profile :

What the US absolutely must have by 2012 is universal health care. I'd willingly go back to dial-up if every resident of this country got health-care as a result.

Sure, having a decent broadband infrastructure would help competitiveness, but that boat sailed a long time ago when we shipped our factories to China and our software development to India and imported Mexicans to make our fast food and cut our grass. 100Mbps won't fix that.

Can we say bigot? Mexicans must only work in fast food joints and cutting grass.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

reply to AricBrown
said by AricBrown See Profile :

The US already has universal health care. You get hurt or sick anywhere in the country you can go to a doctor ANYWHERE. What YOU want is for the government (ie ME) to pay for your health care.
get a clue dude, who do you think pays the bill when someone without health insurance or the ability to pay walks into an emergency room? [note: I assume you are talking about emergency room care, because this is the repuglican talking point and you sure as hell ain't gonna get to see a private physician with no health insurance and no means to pay].

they may write some of the cost off, but the rest of it goes into making YOUR health care cost more.


Derspankster
Premium
join:2003-02-12
Marion, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to XBL2009
said by XBL2009 See Profile :

said by kapil See Profile :

What the US absolutely must have by 2012 is universal health care. I'd willingly go back to dial-up if every resident of this country got health-care as a result.

Sure, having a decent broadband infrastructure would help competitiveness, but that boat sailed a long time ago when we shipped our factories to China and our software development to India and imported Mexicans to make our fast food and cut our grass. 100Mbps won't fix that.
We need 100mbps, better health care, electric cars, bridges rebuilt, hospitals built, rebuilt school systems. If only the US would stop wasting so much money on stupid things.
Like stupid foreign wars that do nothing but kill people, (a lot of them Amercian) make fat-cats richer and bankrupt our country.
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cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

reply to kapil
The US does NOT need 'universal health care' what the health care system needs is a series of laws past and enforce that put the doctors in charge of the patient's health and not the health insurance companies. universal health care is another way to improving the health care of people, but not the only way. who know, maybe what i'm proposing would morph into a for of universal health care.

jc1350

join:2004-09-23

reply to kapil
said by kapil See Profile :

What the US absolutely must have by 2012 is universal health care.
So, you want the government to do to health care what it did to retirement (bankrupted Social Security by abusing it and using the money for everything not related to social security/retirement) and education (churning out uneducated folks by giving them passing grades so their feelings don't get hurt)?

Every time government tries to run something, it bloats the cost and usually corrupts it so bad, the system fails miserably, at which point the politicians' only "solution" is to throw more money at it. Repeat cycle.

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
reply to n2jtx
I think calling that a "Law" is a little generous. Maybe a Rule of thumb, or Superstition.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable

reply to XBL2009
its not the Feds that screw Public School Systems. It's the states that won't turn the money over to them. I went to two school districts in HS. One received only State money. One received Federal Money. Want to know which one was more maintained? the Federally Funded. Buildings that were always being remodeled to be more Eco-Friendly today, computer systems that were always being updated, school buses that weren't broken down all the time, bus drivers that were paid like they should have been, Text books that were new every 3 years (like they should be). and smaller class sizes. The most I had one one class at the Fed. Funded school was 23. The Public State funded the most was 35. BIG difference in terms of weather or not you had a text book that day with all the pages still there or one that was missing half of the chapter, or a Xerox copy.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to Bigot
and can we say Raceist for you?

Nuts

join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
reply to XBL2009
everything you say we need can and should be done by the states or private sectory. Nothing you mention belongs in the hands of the federal government.
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