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said by xtlosx  : Have a chat with someone in a country that has this method and see how happy they are. Michael Moore already did that, even if they wait in Canada they still get better healthcare than americans do!
Note: I still haven't found a Canadian yet that would take U.S. health insurance.
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kapil
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The neocon insurgency is in its final throes.
The violent convulsions always happen right before death.
Don't worry grasshopper, it won't be too long till you're resting in peace. Close your eyes and walk towards the light 
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xtlosx
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have your country back now? Are you absolutely retarded? Do you have any idea what this country was founded on? Do you know what the founders of this country set out for this country, the vision? It did NOT include the government taking care of people with health care. This is what the private sector is for.
Get it straight, the federal governments job is NOT, I repeat, is NOT to take care of you from the cradle to the grave. When the liberals take office, and your paycheck gets slashed by another 20-30%, you WILL complain becuse your universal health care won't do a GD thing for you. Nor will waiting for a doctors visit for months, or waiting for surgery for months. Have a chat with someone in a country that has this method and see how happy they are. |
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kapil
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Aaah. The new American way of doing things. Fuck everyone as long as I get mine.
Universal healthcare is going to happen. And it's going to happen this decade. The overwhelming majority of the people in this country want it....and you wingnuts have had enough time in the spotlight.
I'll have my country back now, thank you very much. It was a bad decision to let you babysit it for this long.
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xtlosx
join:2005-11-02
Algonquin, IL | reply to AricBrown
Amen. Finally someone intelligent answering  |
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xtlosx
join:2005-11-02
Algonquin, IL | reply to kapil
are you insane???? I'm tired of paying for people and their needs, it's time to get something for me..
whacko liberal! |
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xtlosx
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Algonquin, IL
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Stacy Milld
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Cornelius you are so crazy. Doctors make you wait like a beggar dog in double waiting rooms, because of no compition and total power over you.
We need to put the PATIENTS IN CHARGE not the Doctors - already Doctors are in charge like you are a little baby who needs them to write and order treatments for you.
As an adult I should decide what Meds and what treatment and tests I need.
A doctor told this model friend of mine to get a Colonoscopy for Ulcerative Colits, she refused, and the doctor dumped her, told her to get out of the office for refusing medical advice.
BTW the Doctor runs the Colonoscopy facility, and will make allot of Insurance money doing the coloscopy. So my friend knows what she needs for body and health, not some stupid Doctor.
USA really spoils the doctors, makes them behave exactly like Cops! Both proffetions are unique in ability to talk down at you and you have to take it, the Cop will put you in Jail if you look at him wrong or if he doesn't like your religion etc... Well A DOCTOR will mess up your operation or screw up your health if he feels you did not praise him enough or because you are wrong ethinicity... We can advocaate for our Cars health to a mechanic, but we can never advocate for our own body with a doctor without the doctor getting reven for irritating him with too many inteligent questions. MD's do not like smart patients as they make the MD work too hard, a dumb patient the love, as dumb patients will think the Doctor is GOD even as the Doctor is screwing up. |
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dueceswild88
join:2005-06-22
Murphysboro, IL
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It's not a dont-like-it-then-leave argument. It's a simple question. If you found that healthcare there was superior to what we have, then why did you leave? Never once did I say if you don't like what we have then leave, I just wanted to know if it is so good there, why you left?
And I also never said a thing about elective surgery, such as breast enlargements.
I'll cut to the chase here, I can pay for my own healthcare with a very little in the way of income. If I can do it, then the majority of the country can do it. I'm not going to support any program that gives benefits to those don't have healthcare now because they would rather spend their money on luxury items. |
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kapil
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said by dueceswild88 : why are you in the US now? Ahh. The ever popular dont-like-it-then-leave argument. F off.
Yes, I have lived overseas...and have enjoyed single payer healthcare. Flu, heart attacks, AIDS, acne....those with "medical" problems found a doctor when they needed one. Nose jobs and bigger titties had to wait a couple of months. So sad. We all know bigger tits are a medical emergency.
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dueceswild88
join:2005-06-22
Murphysboro, IL
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Yes, I used to live overseas. And yes, the quality of care received there was not nearly as high as the quality of care received here. I'm going to have to ask if you have been overseas and used those services...because if you have and they were so great, why are you in the US now? |
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dueceswild88
join:2005-06-22
Murphysboro, IL
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I wish the world worked as well for me as it did for everyone else.
I understand that those without insurance will not see a doctor, however, if I can afford health insurance for myself and my family while making little more than minimum wage, then I am very hard pressed to believe that the majority of the population in our country cannot do the same.
It's not that I don't want everyone to have some sort of health insurance, I just don't want to pay for it. Nor do I believe the government should be made to provide it. |
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pnh102
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said by BF69 :Oh and by the way since WE, the taxpayers do pay for the ER visit wouldn't it be cheaper just to pay for the guy to go to a regular doctor? Probably 1/10 the cost. Uh, we do. What do you think Medicare, Medicaid and crap like SCHIP, which pays for "children" up to age 26 and in families with incomes up to $83k a year pay for?
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BF69
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Camden, TN
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said by dueceswild88 :Universal health care is a joke. Look at every country that has implemented it and compare their system with our current system. I would rather see 100Mbs broadband speeds and deal with what is sometimes a hassle in terms of health care than have to wait a month to see a doctor that I don't even get to choose. Except see people in the US without health insurance NEVER see the doctor so you see a month wait is much better than NEVER. You really need to stop think the world works for everyone they way it works for you.
Oh and in those countries if you stil want to pay for insurance so you don't have to wait you still can. win/win. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by person842 :
LOL $500 ER visit. You living in the 1920s or something?
1 day hospital bill $4,9xx with minor exams and a ER visit.
BS. In 1994 I had a car wreck was in the hospital for a week had surgery on my leg and the entire bill was 16 grand which included the ambulance service.
Three year ago my son cuts open the bottom of his foot on some broken glass. ER visit which included stiches and return visit 2 weeks later totaled $700. Where in the fuck do you get $5000 grand for "minor" stuff? |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by pnh102 :said by BF69 :That's not true and you know it. Spoken like someone who hasn't been to an urban ER. that's not the same as walking into ANY doctors office you want which the poster alludes to. HUGE difference.
Oh and by the way since WE, the taxpayers do pay for the ER visit wouldn't it be cheaper just to pay for the guy to go to a regular doctor? Probably 1/10 the cost. |
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tmh
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said by kapil :What the US absolutely must have by 2012 is universal health care. I'd willingly go back to dial-up if every resident of this country got health-care as a result. Sure, having a decent broadband infrastructure would help competitiveness, but that boat sailed a long time ago when we shipped our factories to China and our software development to India and imported Mexicans to make our fast food and cut our grass. 100Mbps won't fix that. Forget healthcare. Give me bandwidth, and lots of it.
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said by Ahrenl :I think calling that a "Law" is a little generous. Maybe a Rule of thumb, or Superstition. I didn't make it up. It is part of the Murphy's collection of laws. If Murphy is considered a law, then so is Isawwi. |
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David
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said by ghfg :
your universal health care cost doesnt have to come from infrastructure budget, however it can come from the Iraq war budget..
I agree with that!! why not spend more money curing people than killing them?
Damn what a concept.... better get a patent on that!!
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ghfg
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your universal health care cost doesnt have to come from infrastructure budget, however it can come from the Iraq war budget.. |
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