Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20697505 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:40:53 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:40:53 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20713765 Chiyo : Your failing to see the problem. There are two things taping on your keyboard is one thing sitting next to someone who feels they need to watch or view some porn is a another.

sometime typing on there keyboard so what throw on my headphones. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20713765 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:56:41 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20705941 fiberguy : no no.. I mean I posted to the wrong message.. ;) I wasn't critiquing yours..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20705941 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:48:18 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20701971 en102 : It may be... but then again, its American Airline (horrible service is part of their tradition).
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Gaming, and high impact services, maybe in the future, but right now, it's just what every telco and PCS CEO would dream of.. surfing the web, checking email, and chatting. ;)

Not everything that's rolled out is ready for mainstream and have everything tossed at it. I'm sure many people would LOVE it to be able to handle games.. but, doubt it's anywhere near it for now..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700976 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:48:17 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700975 fiberguy : wrong message.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700975 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:47:37 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700973 fiberguy : You rally don't fly, do you? You make it sound like every flight resembles the one on the movie Airplane.

Where are all these things happening? You have any idea how many flights there are a day? You have ANY idea how IMPOSSIBLE it is to open a door mid-flight? (if you knew the basic mechanics of a door, you'd lose that myth too)

I fly 3 flights a month, minimum.. maybe I luck out and just miss out on all these flights.. with thousands and thousands of flights a day, I can say I should play the lottery since I happen to just be on the well behaved flight. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700973 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:45:13 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700970 fiberguy : Oh boy.. here we are already.. the "I" don't wanna sit next to..

Everyone has a gripe about what someone else may or may not do.

You know what I want to not sit next to? A whiner! If people are that annoyed about, I dunno, LIFE, then maybe they should live the hermit.

Even a good Christian does not judge.

Screw the broadband then and just sit down, strap up, shut up and wait until you get to where you're going. Seriously.. I also don't want to sit next to anyone that's looking at my laptop - mostly why I fly first class to get away from people. Where's your common courtesy to leave others alone?

I'd rather not sit next to someone "chatting" on line.. you know how annoying the "tap tap tap tap" is while someone sits there typing about something they saw on the CW network?

When does the complaint end?

Why not block ebay, IM, photo sharing - as I Could care less to sit next to someone sharing photos of their new car.. I mean, we all drive cars.. block MySpace too, face book.. i mean, come on.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700970 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:42:43 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700417 Finalnight :
said by Chiyo See Profile :

@Chiyo: The plane is taking off
@Chiyo: The plane is sinking in the ocean
@chiyo: The rescue boats haven't come yet
@Chiyo: Sharks are around us please help
That made my day.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700417 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:11:38 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20699540 JamesPC : hahahaha.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20699540 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:38:41 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20698635 palmer_j_r :
said by Kearnstd See Profile :

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of course business folks will likely be expected to in the near future VPN in from the plane.
Ewww. Tough Call. Just when you thought you'd escape a few hours of work for some in-flight entertainment that three letter acronym pops up.
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Easiest way is to limit the pipe. 512 kbps with high latency should be enough to keep most people from wanting to run VoIP or similar.
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said by maartena See Profile :

said by Kearnstd See Profile :

alright, with a power jack one could waste away that 6hr flight playing WoW!. latency would suck but just to say you have gamed from 35,000ft.....
You would not enjoy it. The satellites for communication are in geo-stationary orbit at 35.000 km (or roughly 20.000 miles) above the earth. The entire return ping would be somewhere around 700 to 800ms.

For website browsing or chatting, such latency doesn't matter. Even for streaming video it is not a problem. It may take a few seconds more for the stream to get started, and you may need a little more buffering, but it'll work.

And quite frankly, this type of internet is meant for that kind of stuff: webbrowsing, e-mail, IM chatting, etc.

And I would really not mind if they block all porn/shady websites. I don't mind the guy next to me reading up on his stocks or chatting to the misstress... but I could really do without people right next to me trying to skype home or watching porn flicks.
Aircell uses towers on the ground, not sat communication.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20698116 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:03:56 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20698067 maartena :
said by Kearnstd See Profile :

alright, with a power jack one could waste away that 6hr flight playing WoW!. latency would suck but just to say you have gamed from 35,000ft.....
You would not enjoy it. The satellites for communication are in geo-stationary orbit at 35.000 km (or roughly 20.000 miles) above the earth. The entire return ping would be somewhere around 700 to 800ms.

For website browsing or chatting, such latency doesn't matter. Even for streaming video it is not a problem. It may take a few seconds more for the stream to get started, and you may need a little more buffering, but it'll work.

And quite frankly, this type of internet is meant for that kind of stuff: webbrowsing, e-mail, IM chatting, etc.

And I would really not mind if they block all porn/shady websites. I don't mind the guy next to me reading up on his stocks or chatting to the misstress... but I could really do without people right next to me trying to skype home or watching porn flicks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20698067 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:53:06 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20698008 Kearnstd : even caching dns would have minor latency, however gaming would just be for the humor of trying it from an airplane. in truth you would be best off camping DSLR and checking email. :)

of course business folks will likely be expected to in the near future VPN in from the plane.
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I know connecting to Skype across a throttled VPN, tunnelled SSH throught a squid proxy half way across the country is enough to make it unusable. The throttled connection makes latency spikes too high to be usable.
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said by Dogfather See Profile :

They're going to rely on passengers not being dumbasses and the flight crew. They say the flight crew will handle complaints just as they would if someone brought aboard a porno mag or DVD.
You mean the same people that have to watch out for people lighting their shoes on fire, firing up cigarettes, getting drunk and screaming obscenities, running to the door and trying to open it up midflight, et al.?

So much for the days when they just had to play with the flotation device, oxygen masks, magazines, and refreshments. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697495 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:59:58 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697485 koitsu :
said by Chiyo See Profile :

... whats stopping the same idiots from a flight YOU CAN'T GET OFF OF?
Or from a flight you can't get off on.

I made a funny! Come on, it was funny. Laugh dammit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697485 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:57:43 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697405 Kearnstd : alright, with a power jack one could waste away that 6hr flight playing WoW!. latency would suck but just to say you have gamed from 35,000ft.....

blocking VOIP is a good thing as people have proven they cant be polite on trains with their cellphones and in a plane you cant just get up and goto another car.
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They mention another airline tried filters but they got complaints of the filters blocking legit sites and ended up turning off the filters.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697159 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:00:05 EDT Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697155 Chiyo : I don't wanna sit next to some guy getting a stiffy watching some pron (illegal or not) I mean you've got idiots who go to public libraries and wack off to pron whats stopping the same idiots from a flight YOU CAN'T GET OFF OF?

block porn and voip please if you want real time communication use IM.

@Chiyo: The plane is taking off
@Chiyo: The plane is sinking in the ocean
@chiyo: The rescue boats haven't come yet
@Chiyo: Sharks are around us please help]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697155 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:59:35 EDT Unfiltered, unlimited?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697136 rantou : I wonder if along with VoIP blocking they will also block underage pornography?!?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20697136 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:56:11 EDT