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Prodeje79

join:2005-06-24
Pickerington, OH

[TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited FAST!

OK OK so we all know about this now:
»[TWC] Road Runner Newsgroups Discontinued

Let's sticky a thread (perhaps this one) to provide recommendations and the best bang for the buck for unlimited pay per month newsgroup services! Please no other posts here!

»www.newsgroupdirect.com/ 20% off for life
unlimited $19.95 normal => $15.96 month
20% Discounts For Time Warner, Verizon
Attention Time Warner, Verizon, and Sprint customers. We will give you a 20% lifetime discount if you convert your usenet service to NewsgroupDirect. Just enter coupon code ngd09348 at checkout to receive your lifetime discount.

»www.giganews.com/ top notch, but too much money!!!

I googled around etc etc.... way too many out there....
This should be the ultimate place to post this!

So what is the best deal for unlimited high speed newsgroups thru a paid service provider?????

kingdome74
Emotionally Unavailable
Premium
join:2002-03-27
Syracuse, NY

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

»www.newshosting.com/en/index.php

I use the unlimited for 14.95 and have been with them for over 4 years and never had a single problem that I can recall.

Beachie
Stranded in paradise

join:2001-07-12
St. Pete, FL
·Bright House
·RoadRunner Cable

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by kingdome74 See Profile :

»www.newshosting.com/en/index.php

I use the unlimited for 14.95 and have been with them for over 4 years and never had a single problem that I can recall.
Same here, rock solid and fast for 5 years now.
Ky Nutcase

join:2003-03-03
Morganfield, KY
»blocknews.net/

They have a deal 3 month UNLIMITED for $30.00 then $42.00 a quarter. This seems like the best I have found yet with unlimited.
wkpower

join:2001-11-08
New York, NY

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

how good is blocknews.net? are they reliable?
Ky Nutcase

join:2003-03-03
Morganfield, KY
·RoadRunner Cable

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by wkpower See Profile :

how good is blocknews.net? are they reliable?

So far, I have has 1 issues, a server problem that was resolved within a few hours, otherwise, its great, faster response that TW had.

Phil
Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
I've been using Blocknews.net since December with only one or two hiccups. I get fairly consistent download speeds of about 16Mbps.
jduffy

join:2006-08-20
Cincinnati, OH
teranews.com

$3.95 one time sign up fee and you get 50MBs of downloads per day. Fine for up to moderate users and virtually free.
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jjz

join:2002-11-24
Los Angeles, CA

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

This site seems to give good reviews: »www.newsgroupservers.net/

teranews

@rr.com
Sure, $3.95 one time setup fee is reasonable and 50MB/day is more than sufficient for me. But, is it working?

tiger72
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
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»www.usenetserver.com

$15/mo unlimited
$12/mo in 3 month increments

I've had them for years, and been very happy with em. 99+ day retention on most of their stuff

Buy a backup block account from »news.astraweb.com for $25 and get 100GB backup with 120+ day retention.

Those 2 together are a pretty unbeatable package, imo.
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aelfwyne

join:2004-01-28
Beaumont, TX
·RoadRunner Cable


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Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

I second UsenetServer.com.

$14.95 for unlimited usenet.
$3 for 3 days if you want to trial it or whatever.

You'd think you would get better service paying more to a bigger name, but you do not. UsenetServer.com has awesome retention and is very fast.

Also, you are not tied to buying by the quarter like you are on some of the others listed.
PeterDLai

join:2003-07-26
San Diego, CA


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I think one of the best deals for us Road Runner users is from Ngroups.NET, a sister company to Usenet-News (which I have used for block accounts and have had no problems whatsoever).

Quarterly unmetered
RoadRunner SPECIAL
Limited time until July 31!

You MUST sign up using your
rr.com e-mail address to take
advantage of this offer.
Offer not valid for users who
had an active Ngroups.NET
account on 6/23/2008.

$29.99/quarter
(less than $10/month!!)

ROADRUNNER SPECIAL!!!!
Recurring subscription, unlimited downloads, 12 connections,
for ONLY $29.99 per Quarter
for as long as you keep the subscription!
sidewinder1

join:2008-06-24

»www.newshosting.com/bhn-en/

Beginning Monday, June 23, 2008

Newshosting is excited to offer Bright House Networks High Speed Internet customers access to Newshosting newsgroups at no additional charge. This complimentary service is only available from your home Bright House Networks Road Runner connection. Newshosting account creation and login information is NOT needed for Bright House Networks customers unless you purchase a premium service from Newshosting. After you have agreed to the Terms of Service you will be provided with a new newsgroup server name which you can then enter into your newsgroup application (be it Outlook Express or other).

Newshosting is your premier Usenet newsgroup provider with retention and completion rates among the highest in the industry, allowing fast and reliable access to over 60,000 newsgroups from our servers located in the United States and Europe. Usenet is the world's most comprehensive online message base with newsgroups containing both text and binary content. If you're new to Usenet, check out Usenet Learning Center and discover all the Usenet has to offer.
hakujin

join:2004-02-19
Chicago, IL


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IMO, values to look for in choice of binary providers are:

a. retention
b. completion rate
c. transfer rate and connections

*SSL (REQ for some, I think it's redundant)

Power users shouldn't even entertain a free binary provider because they are a joke (afaik) in a,b, and c.

Here's a good review site:
»www.anchordudes.com/

Here's another:
»www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-dea···?start=0

Easynews, Giganews, and Newshosting have in the past been good (as well as a couple of metered services one just assume forget).

Easynews price for performance sucks as retention is lower, unless you utilize their craptacular GUI. Giganews has the best retention in the business at 200+ days but they are steep. Newshosting is the best middle ground. Competitive unlimited @ $15, great retention @ 80-100 days, and usually always complete for me.

Things to live by:
*If you need something older, use torrent.
*If you only need text groups, you're not affected as you can use Google Groups or a host of other news servers, free of charge.
*If you think any other ISP is going to give you unlimited binary, guess again

Stem Bolt
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH


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AstraWeb Usenet

»news.astraweb.com/

AstraWeb is NOT a reseller (Highwinds). They are an independent usenet provider.

3 months for $39 = $13 a month, unlimited, Free SSL

Retention: 128+ Days across ALL groups
- Retention is being upgraded. Keep watching it rise!

Completion: 99%+

Connections: 20 connections (Unlimited Plan)
50 connections (Pay-by-download Plan)

Servers:United States (us.news.astraweb.com)
Europe: (europe.news.astraweb.com)
SSL: (secure.news.astraweb.com)
------------------
Pay-by-download plan:

Non expiring block accounts: 110 gigs for $25

Network: Level 3
Tiscali
Cogent

Excellent Price - Best Value for Money Usenet
Anonymity - No logs are kept, Anonymous Group Requests, Anonymous Posting
Uncensored News - No Discussions are Censored
SSL Enabled - SSL Available now on ALL accounts. No extra charges.
Completion - High number of peers. 99%+ completion
Speed - Multiple Links to High Quality Providers
Connections - 20 Simultaneous Connections
Retention - Long retention, always increasing.
Posting Propagation - Well connected peers ensure excellent propagation of posts
US & EU Farms - Serverfarms in the US and EU

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antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25


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Tip for those who have EarthLink (even dial-up accounts like Experience) can use its newsgroup service that uses Giganews (used to be SuperNews and internal). In fact, you can log into it from any ISPs.

However, it uses 2 connections at most, no SSL, and speed is random (fast or slow). That is what I noticed.
hakujin

join:2004-02-19
Chicago, IL

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by antdude See Profile :

Tip for those who have EarthLink (even dial-up accounts like Experience) can use its newsgroup service that uses Giganews (used to be SuperNews and internal).
It's capped at 5GB a month right? I've been thinking of switching over to EL. TWC would still provide the equipment and connection, but I'd pay EL.

antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by hakujin See Profile :

said by antdude See Profile :

Tip for those who have EarthLink (even dial-up accounts like Experience) can use its newsgroup service that uses Giganews (used to be SuperNews and internal).
It's capped at 5GB a month right? I've been thinking of switching over to EL. TWC would still provide the equipment and connection, but I'd pay EL.
From what I read and heard even from ELN's LiveChat, there are no caps.
hakujin

join:2004-02-19
Chicago, IL


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Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

I'm astonished LiveChat even knew what a newsgroup was, lol.

Taken from the earthlink website:

EarthLink Newsgroups FAQ

In order to make our News service fair to all users, EarthLink does enforce download limits on its Usenet service. The limit is 5GB during the last 30 days. Please note that "Headers" and articles count towards the limit.

Unlike other services, we do not set limits based on calendar months. If you were to download 5GB on January 29th, you would be considered over quota until 30 days from then, or February 28th. Users that have not downloaded 5GB are able to interact with the server without any limits, while users that exceed the 5GB quota in their last 30 days of usage are rate-limited, or throttled, to 64 kilobits per second.

Ref:
»kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?article=4459#q1

antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by hakujin See Profile :

I'm astonished LiveChat even knew what a newsgroup was, lol.

Taken from the earthlink website:

EarthLink Newsgroups FAQ

In order to make our News service fair to all users, EarthLink does enforce download limits on its Usenet service. The limit is 5GB during the last 30 days. Please note that "Headers" and articles count towards the limit.

Unlike other services, we do not set limits based on calendar months. If you were to download 5GB on January 29th, you would be considered over quota until 30 days from then, or February 28th. Users that have not downloaded 5GB are able to interact with the server without any limits, while users that exceed the 5GB quota in their last 30 days of usage are rate-limited, or throttled, to 64 kilobits per second.

Ref:
»kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?article=4459#q1
See "Note: This does not affect dialup users.". I am using my dial-up account (ELN e-mail address and its password) to log in. I also went over 8.3 GB over the weekend.
hakujin

join:2004-02-19
Chicago, IL


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Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

Does not affect dial-up for obvious reasons I guess. It won't be long before they see this loophole and close it.

I've seen mention of this is in fw too, whereby folks are signing up w/ the dial-up for the newsgroups only. $10 a month for 3 months seems decent for unlmited ng. $25 a month thereafter sounds self defeating.

I think I'll steer clear of the promo (which would save a paltry 10-15 dollars vs. unlmited monthly elsewhere) if it means I won't be considered a new subscriber as I'd like to get in on the $30 for 6 mo HSI when my TWC promo expires (should they not re-extend the promo). Then again, EL may extend both promos (i.e. dial up and HSI discounts).

Newsgroup direct block is looking tempting as well... decisions, decisions.

antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25


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Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by hakujin See Profile :

Does not affect dial-up for obvious reasons I guess. It won't be long before they see this loophole and close it.

I've seen mention of this is in fw too, whereby folks are signing up w/ the dial-up for the newsgroups only. $10 a month for 3 months seems decent for unlmited ng. $25 a month thereafter sounds self defeating.
Yeah, that will be the time to subscribe to a NSP like EasyNews. However, note that ELN's GigaNews can be slow and only two maximum connections. So, it is actually worse than what RR's had IMO.

EasyNews sounds interesting because it can carry over unused download datas every month, easy to get more by doing surveys, etc. Here's what I researched (as of two weeks ago) as my two top picks before I discovered EarthLink's news server access since I am a dial-up user:

*EasyNews:
Cancel before one week/1 GB to get a full refund.
Classic: $9.98 for 20 Gigabytes/30 days (which ever comes first; 50 days of retention)
Plus: $14.97 for 30 Gigabytes/30 days (which one is first); 100 days of retention)
Loyalty bonus per year (1 or 2 GB), survey for 2 GB, web interface with decoded (unrared/unzipped) binaries, autounrar, autopar, nzb creator, global search (their best kept secret), and more.
Includes SSL for both http and nttp.

*newsguy.com (RoadRunner special -- needs a rr.com address):
»newsguy.com/roadrunner.htm
30 days/1 month free trial
$19.95 per month for unlimited
$9.95 for 50 GB per month (Express)
$14.95 for 50 GB per month (Premium) with carryover for left overs.
Has SSL, Web, and NNTP.
70K newsgroups.
90+ Days Retention
Unwanted filters on text newsgroups.
hakujin

join:2004-02-19
Chicago, IL


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Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

What do you max at w/ EL two connections? I've heard some say 12Mbps.

I loathe easynews. Their retention is lower than everyone else, and their plans cost more. I've used them in the past but just don't get their marketing strategy anymore.Additional 2GB for a survey is paltry (though not as paltry as JD Power trying to pay me $1 to do a survey, lol). Especially when you consider focus groups will pay you significantly more for a couple hours of your time, if such is your bag. But I digress... I don't want to work for gigs. I'd rather just sign up with a different provider and get more from the get-go.

antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25


2 edits

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by hakujin See Profile :

What do you max at w/ EL two connections? I've heard some say 12Mbps.
It varies. Sometimes 20 KB/sec to 600 KB/sec. Like a couple hours ago, I only got about 100 KB/sec. These are combined speeds. Friday nights are usually fast, but not last Friday night for the first time with ELN's Giganews. I had like 200 KB/sec.? Maybe it's summer with all kids home now.

antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25

Speed is slow tonight:

$ /usr/sbin/traceroute News.west.earthlink.net
traceroute to News.west.earthlink.net (216.168.3.70), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 34.450 ms 34.439 ms 35.929 ms
2 cpe-75-82-0-1.socal.res.rr.com (75.82.0.1) 44.043 ms 44.025 ms 45.842 ms
3 gig11-3.lamdca1-cda4.socal.rr.com (76.167.7.125) 45.779 ms 49.390 ms 50.464 ms
4 tge4-0-0.lsanca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com (76.167.2.56) 52.550 ms 54.213 ms 54.193 ms
5 xe-8-1-0.edge5.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.59.48.9) 60.826 ms 60.818 ms *
6 * ae-1-69.edge3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.68.20.9) 38.563 ms 44.631 ms
7 COMCAST-IP.edge3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.71.136.6) 38.452 ms COMCAST-IP.edge3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.71.136.26) 40.051 ms COMCAST-IP.edge3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.71.136.6) 40.011 ms
8 * * *
9 * * pos-0-13-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.254) 122.663 ms
10 pos-0-12-0-0-cr01.mclean.va.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.238) 136.885 ms 130.884 ms 130.727 ms
11 68.86.89.106 (68.86.89.106) 136.780 ms * 106.787 ms
12 g3-16.gw2.dca.giganews.com (216.196.96.61) 105.185 ms 107.358 ms 98.226 ms
13 earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net (216.168.3.70) 97.694 ms * *


Brad in FL

@rr.com

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

I'm down with free.

»tampabay.mybrighthouse.com/custo···ult.aspx

Q: How do I obtain access to newsgroups?
A: Bright House Networks Road Runner customers may obtain access to newsgroups through Newshosting.com at no additional charge. Please visit »www.newshosting.com/bhn-en/ for more information.

Noob

@rr.com

from:
antdude See Profile

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

Read the damn thread, thats not for normal roadrunner users and won't work for us.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29
·ViaTalk

Not a heavy newsgroup user myself. Those block accounts from newsgroupdirect look interesting. A 50gig block should last me for a few months at least. Wonder if you renew they still would honor the 20% discount. Add kind of implies that they would.

Anybody else use them? One the links above talked about them as a reseller but mentions questionable reliability.
hakujin

join:2004-02-19
Chicago, IL
so far the best deal for unmetered seems to be ngroups, followed by blocknews, and then maybe astraweb following suit. Any personal experiences?

I'm thinking of giving ngroups a whirl for a week.

Mogly

@ny.us

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

I'm thinking of giving ngroups a whirl for a week.

Let us know how you like it.

Thanks
hakujin

join:2004-02-19
Chicago, IL

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by Mogly :

I'm thinking of giving ngroups a whirl for a week.

Let us know how you like it.

Thanks
Opted for newsgroupdirect 100GB block for ~18 bucks after 20% TWC discount. I'll probably be playing this out for a few months... taking it easy...

works great! maxes connection; 12 connections; SSL; and all complete.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

I was thinking of doing something like that. Just buy a block. Wondering if they would still honor the %20 discount upon renewal. From the simple promo they should but you never can tell. They may end up saying that was for recurring plans only.
Big Hoot

join:2002-09-01
Port Neches, TX
Good luck! It would not let me sign up with my MC.

Hoot
ianc1

join:2007-08-06

Hmmp. After a few months of non_Usenet usage I discover today that RR stopped offering the service. I come here and what do I see? Users calmly discussing how to add yet another monthly bill; for a service that has always been part and parcel of any and every net acct I've had gong back 20-odd years. Watdafluck! Where's the outrage; the petitions; the reduction in my monthly TWC bill. Hell, I'm up for a class-action against those monopolistic bas***ds.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

This is the thread after we accepted the facts and looking for alternatives. Try »[TWC] Road Runner Newsgroups Discontinued
ianc1

join:2007-08-06

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

That thread was the first I viewed, but it's locked/closed, so I couldn't rant; vent my displeasure. So I came to this thread

hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs:

Re: [TWC] Recommend Newsgroup Usenet Providers Cheap Unlimited F

said by ianc1 See Profile :

That thread was the first I viewed, but it's locked/closed, so I couldn't rant; vent my displeasure. So I came to this thread
I believe there is a rant forum.

Hob
--
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

jonorri

@simnet.is

usenet-news.net

been there for a year, was with easynews.com before...

they offer block accounts 300gb for 66$, you can buy as little as 2gb...

never had a connection that can top up there speed.. it´s always stable 600-700kb for me...

retention 100days...

i love it...
Juster

join:2006-08-11
Panorama City, CA
Went with usenetserver.com for the 3 month deal. It's not bad but I get ~700KB/s with 10 connections. Is that normal? Or is it read like 10 connections x ~700KB/s?

anomynous

@rr.com

As it so happens, I have a dial-up account with my local telco (Cincinnati Bell) in addition to RR Turbo ('why' you ask? multiple reasons...)

Out of curiosity, I checked their news service and it seems they contract with usenetserver.com. Pointed my client at it, used my dial-up account id, and was able to download via RR...

Looks like I have *another* reason to keep that dial-up account around...
nygfan
Premium
join:2004-07-08
Springfield Gardens, NY

I've been using Easynews for over six years now and even I can say that for price there are better options for most people. At this stage I'm still there because of the amount of rollover gigs I have and the global search which is helpful if you know what you're looking for.
kludge

join:2003-01-04
Plano, TX

I went with NewsgroupDirect »www.newsgroupdirect.com, using the 20% discount code.

I rarely download more than 2 GB per month, so it is much more cost efficient to get a block rate. NewsgroupDirect looked like it had the best rate, plus you get SSL, 20 connections, and good retention. They are using Highwinds for their back-end provider.

Unfortunately I didn't find out until after signing up that it expires after 1 year.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29

Re: [TWC] Block rate

You didn't say the size of block. Hopefully you got the 50 gig block. That would be $11.96 less than $1 month.

Given you usage level that would be your best bet.

kludge

join:2003-01-04
Plano, TX


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Re: [TWC] Block rate

Yes, I got the 50 GB block.

For the record, providers that offer block accounts include:

NewsgroupDirect
Usenet-News
Astraweb
BlockNews.net

Rook008
Miles To Go

join:2002-02-05
Far Rockaway, NY
·PHONE POWER
·RoadRunner Cable


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I decided to give AstraWeb a try with the $15/Month "Unlimited DSL" Pricing Plan. Retention was 128 Days when I signed up, but it's 143 Days now, according to their website. 20 connections, SSL, servers in the US and Europe. I can get 1200 kB/s download speeds with 11 connections at any time, day or night. I mostly download stuff late at night though, so the testing wasn't extensive.
Anyway, it seems like a good service. I might go with the $39/ 3 Month plan when I renew. Works out to $13 a month for unlimited downloads. Not bad at all.

Whoever mentioned AstraWeb earlier in the thread, Thanks.

Edit: Just found a better deal for AstraWeb, $11/ Month: »Re: astraweb vs. powerusenet
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