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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

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reply to clickie

Re: What about Google?

said by clickie:

Quite simply, this is a dangerous box sitting on a network because while I use a network that permits Nebuad, *MY* security is irrevocably tied to Nebuad's security. All it takes is one compromise and all my traffic can be monitored because they're sitting square in the middle of communications.
You raise a valid point, however the same can be said of any equipment/vendor/company on the network we refer to as the "internet". I am sure you have heard about the fake Chinese Cisco routers, those that include the actual real IOS? Well the concern voiced by the NSA is that the Chinese could have built back doors into these devices, thus opening you up to full unfettered monitoring. I can assure you the Chinese have no "privacy policy" while Nebuad certainly does.

said by clickie:

The dangers of Nebuad are far beyond privacy implications. It's going to be a target for criminals looking for an easy way to snoop on encrypted communications. And as big of a kludge as their system is, I highly doubt their boxes are anywhere near as secure as they need to be.
See my comments above. Nebuad's box is just one piece of literally millions that you connect to when you access the internet. Any one of them can be compromised at any time.

The bottom line is that until someone can prove that Nebuad is doing something untoward with our data, then I dont have an issue with it. I remember everyone was in an uproar about GMail when it first came out, and now I suspect YOU probably use it as well as the rest of us. We all trust Google now (be that good or bad), and I suspect that unless something comes to light Nebuad will soon become standard on all ISPs around the world. On the other hand, if it is shown that they are indeed lying about the data they collect then they will be shut down.
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
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