http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20705494 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:50:10 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:50:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20705494 LazMan : Kodak may not be a great example - they are hosted by Akamai, which does all kinds of load balanacing and availablility 'stuff' - the closest cluster or clusters to you may have been offline...

As for the routing - TELUS hands you to Cogent on the west coast - everyting from that part on (going to Boston, then DC, then NYC on AT&T) is outside TELUS's control...

Not to say the routing's alwasy RIGHT - just that it's not always thier fault, either...

Laz]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20705494 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:53:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20702318 anon : If you look at the Telus and Shaw national network they both have backhaul routes through the US using some sort of peering agreement they must have the the Telco's down there. I think it's probably cheaper for them to use those routes. I know all my US bound traffic goes through Seattle from here in BC. The only time it goes through Toronto is if I'm accessing something in Ontario, Quebec.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20702318 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:15:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700041 FPoultice :
;) Be glad you aren't in Alberta right now:

Tracing route to kodak.com [63.240.119.110]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms home [192.168.1.254]
2 45 ms 43 ms 45 ms d205-206-**-*.abhsia.telus.net [205.206.**.*]
3 45 ms 43 ms 43 ms 154.11.197.65
4 77 ms 78 ms 76 ms chcgildtgr00.bb.telus.com [154.11.11.34]
5 78 ms 76 ms 76 ms po5-0.core01.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.237]
6 78 ms 78 ms 76 ms te4-1.ccr02.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.246]
7 76 ms 74 ms 76 ms te9-1.ccr02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.25.69]
8 97 ms 96 ms 98 ms te2-1.ccr02.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.170]
9 108 ms 102 ms 102 ms te2-3.ccr02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.138]
10 132 ms 126 ms 110 ms te4-1.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.182]
11 * 102 ms 114 ms vl3497.mpd01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.66]
12 462 ms 472 ms 447 ms 192.205.35.105
13 113 ms 118 ms 128 ms tbr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.8.190]
14 110 ms 112 ms 110 ms cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.16.117]
15 110 ms 110 ms 108 ms cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.3.37]
16 112 ms 110 ms 120 ms tbr2.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.16.198]
17 148 ms 185 ms 216 ms gar13.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.0.53]
18 548 ms * 116 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.nyc3.attens.net [12.122.255.162]
19 112 ms 112 ms 110 ms mdf2-bi8k-2-gig1-1.nyc3.attens.net [63.240.64.16
6]
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete. :huh:

I may be having other issues as well, though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20700041 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:32:38 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20698683 Tikker_LoS : it's ridiculously cheap to backhaul to toronto

I think everyone in canada passes thru toronto at some point]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20698683 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:46:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20693915 anon : Could be one of their main peering routes are down? That's what the internet does, find ways around it until it get's fixed. It obviously has not always been this way. I'll bet this will resolve itself eventually. Maybe a bad routing table somewhere or a router gone down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20693915 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:59:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20689698 siberx4 : Yowzers, that's a nasty route. Just tried it myself (I'm in vancouver as well) and I'm getting the same one you are. 21 hops may actually be the longest route I've ever seen myself on my own connection. Telus obviously got a good deal on *that* peering agreement ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20689698 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:45:16 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20689339 anon : I have been wondering why my web browser has been really slow lately... after some troubleshooting it looks like just about everything gets sent to Ontario or some hell out of way city just to use cogentco

I usually use kodak.com as a benchmark. It used to be 8 hops from vancouver

Its now over 21

1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.741 ms 0.408 ms 0.339 ms
2 wtf.wtf.wtf.wtf.bchsia.telus.net (wtf.wtf.wtf.wtf) 15.287 ms 15.251 ms 14.978 ms
3 secure.ca.inter.net (154.11.89.130) 16.970 ms 17.442 ms 16.874 ms
4 154.11.10.70 (154.11.10.70) 38.277 ms 38.651 ms 38.782 ms
5 154.11.2.54 (154.11.2.54) 39.065 ms 38.719 ms 38.842 ms
6 po9-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.229) 39.742 ms 39.401 ms 39.797 ms
7 te3-1.mpd01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.102) 243.901 ms 39.434 ms 39.811 ms
8 te4-1.mpd01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.33) 169.872 ms 109.350 ms 82.015 ms
9 * * *
10 te3-3.mpd01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.82) 96.911 ms 96.439 ms 97.026 ms
11 te3-3.mpd01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.106) 101.989 ms * 102.298 ms
12 te8-1.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.70) 102.792 ms 103.331 ms te8-3.mpd01.dca02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.198) 102.843 ms
13 vl3495.mpd01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.62) 103.215 ms vl3496.mpd01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.46) 103.606 ms vl3494.mpd01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.42) 118.355 ms
14 192.205.35.105 (192.205.35.105) 286.326 ms 187.717 ms 299.695 ms
15 tbr2.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.123.8.190) 110.991 ms 111.328 ms 110.730 ms
16 cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.16.125) 110.992 ms 110.304 ms 110.114 ms
17 cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.3.37) 109.703 ms 110.266 ms 109.985 ms
18 tbr1.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.16.158) 110.815 ms 111.212 ms 112.066 ms
19 12.122.81.245 (12.122.81.245) 108.686 ms 109.674 ms 109.735 ms
20 mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-6-0.nyc3.attens.net (12.122.255.130) 109.737 ms 110.215 ms 109.760 ms
21 mdf2-bi8k-1-eth-2-3.nyc3.attens.net (63.240.66.30) 109.889 ms 109.405 ms 108.757 ms]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20689339 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:40:24 EDT