Bubba17
Less is More
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Re: Thank you SuperAntiSpyware!!
said by Blue2  :May the force be with them. (They'll need it.) Revisiting the admin issue .. obviously, they've serious deficiencies, however .. they do utilize user privileges/denial a great deal too. For instance, many settings in IE6 (they've made a corporate decision to not employ IE7 as yet) are ghosted. One may not install ActiveX .. flash is verboten, for example.
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Blue2
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join:2004-04-14
France
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If you permit users without the appropriate proficiency to run as administrator, as far as I see it, it's "game over". It's only a matter of time.
Sure, many users on this forum run as admin, but the point is that they clearly know what they're doing, know the risks of each action, and know when something doesn't look right.
As an analogy, I remember a client in the automotive industry once arrranging for me to take a ride in a Lotus sportscar. The circuit driver was able to go 120 on local roads and take curves at full speed. I would have wrapped myself around the first tree going even half that speed.
So if these users don't have a clue about how to fix it, they shouldn't be running as admin.
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tehflyintwat
join:2008-03-23
Richmond Hil
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Re: Thank you SuperAntiSpyware!!
And unlike Webroot, SAS does not continuously spam my mailbox with its advertisements and discounts even though I unsubscribed from their mailing-list THREE times already. I keep finding their messages in the spam folder. For that reason alone I would never buy Webroot products. |
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DownTheShore
Maddie Knows Poopie
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Beautiful NJ
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Nephew got a new laptop for college and one of the first programs I had him load on it was SAS free. Next time he comes by I'll be upgrading it to Pro. I've used it for a few years myself now - it is an excellent program and a great value. 
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hayc59
VoodooChild
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David R.I.P.
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Re: Thank you SuperAntiSpyware!!
thanks Mod!! this thread has turned into a SAS bash and I
for one am not happy!! we fighting the fight have better things to do, than this!!
If I recall correctly this has nothing to do with Norton what so ever!! |
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SnowyOne
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join:2003-04-05
Kailua, HI
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Clearwire Wireless
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Thank You Free SAS Corporate!!
said by Bubba17 :On a shared (20+ users) work machine "protected" by Symantec Antivirus v10.1.7.7000 in a galaxy far, far away. I then ran a full scan with SuperAntiSpyware (SAS), free edition (I own SAS Pro at home). Thanks (YET AGAIN) SAS! It took me a few minutes to figure out what "(I own SAS Pro at home)" was all about.
What would happen if all of SAS's Corporate clients decided that they no longer needed to begin or renew an SAS subscription service because Bubba has an SAS Pro subscription on his home machine?
If the "Home Users Free Version, Free for Home Use" is also legally licensed for Corporate use I know a few IT departments that would appreciate eliminating the SAS line items from their budget.
»www.superantispyware.com/index.html |
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Bubba17
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Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!!
said by SnowyOne :It took me a few minutes to figure out what "(I own SAS Pro at home)" was all about. I truly appreciate your response. Though you've intended/worded it to display your serious smart-ass capabilities (you're obviously extremely practiced), IMO .. point taken.
No, you didn't "figure out" anything regarding my home/Pro reference. It was intended to convey admiration enough for the product to have purchased it, instead of using the free version there.
In truth, it never registered on my radar that such occasional use of the free version might be a EULA transgression on the work machine. I've attempted to locate/read the agreement and cannot find it (it's displayed, I know, upon install) to confirm. But, pondering it .. probably is. Regardless ..
These steps will I take(n):
* The free version has been uninstalled from our machine.
* I've, many times, been outspoken about the need to support SAS' continued development by those using the free version, regardless of usage style (on-demand or resident), to purchase Pro (or make a donation). Though my primary requirements have been for on-demand service, I bought license to Pro, for this reason.
Additionally, because of their tremendous "lifetime" licensing policy and concerns they may not be getting funding that will allow continued development .. it has been on my mind, for some time, to make an additional donation. I'll now consummate those thoughts.
Again, despite your methods, thanks for the heads-up.
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SipSizzurp
Fo' Shizzle
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join:2005-12-28
Hilo, HI
·RoadRunner Cable
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Re: Thank you SuperAntiSpyware!!
I just got a new call about what sounds like a smitfaud/panicware/vundo infection. I had to format a real nasty one last month which had ESET installed. When I arrived onsite, there were black beetles crawling on the desktop, eating everything. The desktop had been replaced by an overlay graphic that the virus controls. I rebooted in safe mode. Poor NOD would only run in command line mode and even still was finding loads of stuff and qauratining it as fast as it could. This was while the virus and it's beetles were still eating up the desktop and popping up warnings and sales pitches for a removal tool, In safe mode. Nod had a real flimsy feeling to it under the circumstances. This new call I just received is for a NOD32 protected computer. User says he is getting virus pop-ups and the computer is real slow. I downloaded SuperAntiSpyware earlier this afternoon on your recommendation and I'm gonna take it with me on a CD to see what it can do. I'll post back in a few hours. |
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Bubba17
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join:2006-09-21 | Good luck! |
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SnowyOne
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join:2003-04-05
Kailua, HI
·RoadRunner Cable
·Clearwire Wireless
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Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!!
said by Bubba17 :I truly appreciate your response. Though you've intended/worded it to display your serious smart-ass capabilities (you're obviously extremely practiced), IMO .. point taken. Again, despite your methods, thanks for the heads-up. I purposefully & thoughtfully craft a post reply that tries to dance around the fact that someone is on a security forum bragging about how good some software they stole worked & I get called a smart ass for that effort?
Fair enough, now it's my turn to evaluate your post.
You mentioned the version for the only purpose of generating new free user accounts for SAS that they in turn can flip into subscription accounts.
If you didn't mention the version it would be reasonably assumed that it was the subscription version that was getting all the praise, generating less interest in the flippable free version.
So even though it can be claimed that you can't be trying to sell something that's free, it's a known fact that free accounts generate income & your praise was just a sales call masquerading as a topic.
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Bubba17
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Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!!
said by SnowyOne :I purposefully & thoughtfully craft a post reply that tries to dance around the fact that someone is on a security forum bragging about how good some software they stole worked & I get called a smart ass for that effort? Nahhhh (ala the Aflac goat), that's not what you did.
I've stolen nothing.
You mentioned the version for the only purpose of generating new free user accounts for SAS that they in turn can flip into subscription accounts.
If you didn't mention the version it would be reasonably assumed that it was the subscription version that was getting all the praise, generating less interest in the flippable free version.
So even though it can be claimed that you can't be trying to sell something that's free, it's a known fact that free accounts generate income & your praise was just a sales call masquerading as a topic.
.. when you exit the road, you bypass the bushes and head straight into the woods, don't you?
Subsequent to my first response to you, I've located and read (carefully, to the best of my non-lawyer abilities, though it's not as cryptic as others I've read) the EULA.
I find verbiage pertaining to single computer use, to being allowed backup to a single source. Nowhere do I find reference expressly forbidding free version use on a single, "work-based", machine. If my reading was accurate, while it may not be an infraction, technically .. it probably is ethically, as the download link does clearly contain "Home".
Tying a ribbon around this (and, hopefully, my final words on it) ..
* I'm not employed by SAS.
* I'm not an SAS reseller (we'll save whether I should be for another discussion).
* My post motivation was dual, to extol the capabilities of SAS and cast light into the "single tool (SAV, in this instance) isn't sufficient" corner. Folks who are still "tool-based" security minded, like myself, are better served to layer their defenses.
* If sharing my thoughts about SAS' effectiveness at successfully accomplishing it's intended, designed, mission causes others to try the free version, or purchase the Pro version, or make a donation to facilitate it's continued development. Excellent!
Do I believe that's absolutely true? Probably not, but you know how us smart asses can be.
Yeah. Won't comment further on this either. SipSizzurp has already tied a ribbon on it.
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