Thank you SuperAntiSpyware!! in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20706888 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:45:53 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:45:53 EDT Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20715184 SnowyOne :
said by Bubba17 See Profile :

said by SnowyOne See Profile :

You were able to say how SAS's EULA was better than others without knocking Symantec's, or anyone elses for that matter.
Your praise of SAS should stand on it's own merit.
Ah. At last, the crux of your blathering. My display of SAV getting it's ass kicked, yet again. It figures. You're a user! A thin skinned user at that. You're in good company .. most are. Well, don't be upset with me! Hell, take it up with Symantec, or switch to something that's better. Start with AVG. :D

That's all good & fine. But don't do it on the reputation of another company, even if it's true.
It makes you look small & hurts your credibility.
Horse crap! :D Look, tell you what .. in any malware fight you're in (using Symantec, you should be well seasoned) that you want to post about, you feel free to name all the tools you used, both successfully and not, and I'll continue to do the same. Got it??
If anything is getting it's ass kicked in this thread, it's not Symantec. A search of my threads will show that I've been an AVG user for years. You won't find a post of mine that says anything derogatory about SuperAntiSpyware either.
Accusing someone of having an agenda when in fact it's you that clearly has the agenda is something you shouldn't be too proud about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20715184 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:12:34 EDT Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20715146 Bubba17 :
said by SnowyOne See Profile :

You were able to say how SAS's EULA was better than others without knocking Symantec's, or anyone elses for that matter.
Your praise of SAS should stand on it's own merit.
Ah. At last, the crux of your blathering. My display of SAV getting it's ass kicked, yet again. It figures. You're a user! A thin skinned user at that. You're in good company .. most are. Well, don't be upset with me! Hell, take it up with Symantec, or switch to something that's better. Start with AVG. :D

That's all good & fine. But don't do it on the reputation of another company, even if it's true.
It makes you look small & hurts your credibility.
Horse crap! :D Look, tell you what .. in any malware fight you're in (using Symantec, you should be well seasoned) that you want to post about, you feel free to name all the tools you used, both successfully and not, and I'll continue to do the same. Got it??
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"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything" --Wyatt Earp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20715146 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:36:59 EDT Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714892 SnowyOne :
said by Bubba17 See Profile :

Subsequent to my first response to you, I've located and read (carefully, to the best of my non-lawyer abilities, though it's not as cryptic as others I've read) the EULA.
There ya go! I knew you'd figure it out sooner or later. You were able to say how SAS's EULA was better than others without knocking Symantec's, or anyone elses for that matter.
Your praise of SAS should stand on it's own merit.

I find verbiage pertaining to single computer use, to being allowed backup to a single source. Nowhere do I find reference expressly forbidding free version use on a single, "work-based", machine. If my reading was accurate, while it may not be an infraction, technically .. it probably is ethically, as the download link does clearly contain "Home".
When a 'backup' is deployed it's no longer a 'backup' & you should know that.

* I'm not an SAS reseller (we'll save whether I should be for another discussion).
If you pay close attention to this friendly advice you may get what you want.
"Why would a company pay for something they are already getting for free?"

* My post motivation was dual, to extol the capabilities of SAS and cast light into the "single tool (SAV, in this instance) isn't sufficient" corner. Folks who are still "tool-based" security minded, like myself, are better served to layer their defenses.

* If sharing my thoughts about SAS' effectiveness at successfully accomplishing it's intended, designed, mission causes others to try the free version, or purchase the Pro version, or make a donation to facilitate it's continued development. Excellent!
That's all good & fine. But don't do it on the reputation of another company, even if it's true.
It makes you look small & hurts your credibility.

Do I believe that's absolutely true? Probably not, but you know how us smart asses can be.
Yeah. Won't comment further on this either. SipSizzurp has already tied a ribbon on it.
I was disappointed with the lack of creativity in that, but considering the source, not surprised by it.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714892 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:13:10 EDT Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714588 hayc59 : Your a Daisy ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714588 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:17:00 EDT Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714531 Bubba17 :
said by SnowyOne See Profile :

I purposefully & thoughtfully craft a post reply that tries to dance around the fact that someone is on a security forum bragging about how good some software they stole worked & I get called a smart ass for that effort?
Nahhhh (ala the Aflac goat), that's not what you did.

I've stolen nothing.

You mentioned the version for the only purpose of generating new free user accounts for SAS that they in turn can flip into subscription accounts.
If you didn't mention the version it would be reasonably assumed that it was the subscription version that was getting all the praise, generating less interest in the flippable free version.
So even though it can be claimed that you can't be trying to sell something that's free, it's a known fact that free accounts generate income & your praise was just a sales call masquerading as a topic.
:) .. when you exit the road, you bypass the bushes and head straight into the woods, don't you?

Subsequent to my first response to you, I've located and read (carefully, to the best of my non-lawyer abilities, though it's not as cryptic as others I've read) the EULA.

I find verbiage pertaining to single computer use, to being allowed backup to a single source. Nowhere do I find reference expressly forbidding free version use on a single, "work-based", machine. If my reading was accurate, while it may not be an infraction, technically .. it probably is ethically, as the download link does clearly contain "Home".

Tying a ribbon around this (and, hopefully, my final words on it) ..

* I'm not employed by SAS.

* I'm not an SAS reseller (we'll save whether I should be for another discussion).

* My post motivation was dual, to extol the capabilities of SAS and cast light into the "single tool (SAV, in this instance) isn't sufficient" corner. Folks who are still "tool-based" security minded, like myself, are better served to layer their defenses.

* If sharing my thoughts about SAS' effectiveness at successfully accomplishing it's intended, designed, mission causes others to try the free version, or purchase the Pro version, or make a donation to facilitate it's continued development. Excellent!

Do I believe that's absolutely true? Probably not, but you know how us smart asses can be.
Yeah. Won't comment further on this either. SipSizzurp has already tied a ribbon on it.
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"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything" --Wyatt Earp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714531 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:02:09 EDT Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714276 SnowyOne :
said by Bubba17 See Profile :

I truly appreciate your response. Though you've intended/worded it to display your serious smart-ass capabilities (you're obviously extremely practiced), IMO .. point taken.

Again, despite your methods, thanks for the heads-up.
I purposefully & thoughtfully craft a post reply that tries to dance around the fact that someone is on a security forum bragging about how good some software they stole worked & I get called a smart ass for that effort?
Fair enough, now it's my turn to evaluate your post.
You mentioned the version for the only purpose of generating new free user accounts for SAS that they in turn can flip into subscription accounts.
If you didn't mention the version it would be reasonably assumed that it was the subscription version that was getting all the praise, generating less interest in the flippable free version.
So even though it can be claimed that you can't be trying to sell something that's free, it's a known fact that free accounts generate income & your praise was just a sales call masquerading as a topic.
Do I believe that's absolutely true? Probably not, but you know how us smart asses can be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714276 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:40:57 EDT Re: Thank You Free SAS Corporate!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714086 Bubba17 :
said by SnowyOne See Profile :

It took me a few minutes to figure out what "(I own SAS Pro at home)" was all about.
I truly appreciate your response. Though you've intended/worded it to display your serious smart-ass capabilities (you're obviously extremely practiced), IMO .. point taken.

No, you didn't "figure out" anything regarding my home/Pro reference. It was intended to convey admiration enough for the product to have purchased it, instead of using the free version there.

In truth, it never registered on my radar that such occasional use of the free version might be a EULA transgression on the work machine. I've attempted to locate/read the agreement and cannot find it (it's displayed, I know, upon install) to confirm. But, pondering it .. probably is. Regardless ..

These steps will I take(n):

* The free version has been uninstalled from our machine.

* I've, many times, been outspoken about the need to support SAS' continued development by those using the free version, regardless of usage style (on-demand or resident), to purchase Pro (or make a donation). Though my primary requirements have been for on-demand service, I bought license to Pro, for this reason.

Additionally, because of their tremendous "lifetime" licensing policy and concerns they may not be getting funding that will allow continued development .. it has been on my mind, for some time, to make an additional donation. I'll now consummate those thoughts.

Again, despite your methods, thanks for the heads-up.
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"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything" --Wyatt Earp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20714086 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:44:21 EDT