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dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

Right, it was the big money....

Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint gave PAC contributions averaging:

$9,659 to each member of the House voting "YES" (105-Dem, 188-Rep)
$4,810 to each member of the House voting "NO" (128-Dem, 1-Rep)
Yeah, Karl- no question it was that massive $5,000 extra in campaign contributions that swayed their vote. Couldn't possibly be because they thought it was the right thing to do, now could it?

SilverSurfer1

join:2007-08-19

said by dynodb:

Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint gave PAC contributions averaging:

$9,659 to each member of the House voting "YES" (105-Dem, 188-Rep)
$4,810 to each member of the House voting "NO" (128-Dem, 1-Rep)
I'd be curious where you get your information from. Could you link to that page where the above referenced was copied from or would it be too embarrassing for you to link to Rush's home page?

dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

After hours of painstaking research, I came up with the quoted portion that coincidentally was linked to on this very post

Scroll up a bit, duder.



NetAdmin1
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join:2008-05-22

reply to dynodb
That $5000 is an average number. If you look at the individual contributions that some of the congress critters got, you'll see some as high as $25,000+, which isn't chump change...
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Corydon
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join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO

reply to dynodb
$5000 can be a big deal in many House races. My local congresswoman generally raises about $600,000 each cycle. $5000 is almost 1% of her entire fundraising over two years.

Others in more competitive districts raise more; Marilyn Musgrave raised about $3 million in '06 when her seat was targeted by the Democrats. Even so, a $5000 check is not something you want to forgo.

The really questionable thing is when you look at House members who voted against amnesty in February and then turned around and voted for it this month. Presumably not that many changed their minds about it being "the right thing to do" in a few short months.

This was a classic carrot and stick approach: The telcos provided the carrots and Steny Hoyer and his cronies wielded the sticks.
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dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

reply to NetAdmin1

said by NetAdmin1:

That $5000 is an average number. If you look at the individual contributions that some of the congress critters got, you'll see some as high as $25,000+, which isn't chump change...
That's $25,000 between Jan 2005 and Mar 2008. Hardly evidence of the "bought and paid for" insinuation that's being made.

dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

reply to Corydon

said by Corydon:

The really questionable thing is when you look at House members who voted against amnesty in February and then turned around and voted for it this month. Presumably not that many changed their minds about it being "the right thing to do" in a few short months.
Except that what happened "in a few short months" is that the bill was amended in compromise. The bill they voted against earlier was significantly different than the one they voted for now.

If they're slaves to $9,000/yr of campaign contributions, why didn't they pass it the first time?

I'm not suggesting that campaign contributions can't and don't influence a politicians actions- however the evidence that it's happening in this case is far from compelling. PACs- like individual voters- donate to candidates they feel will benefit them in some way.


NetAdmin1
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join:2008-05-22

reply to dynodb

said by dynodb:

That's $25,000 between Jan 2005 and Mar 2008. Hardly evidence of the "bought and paid for" insinuation that's being made.
Actually, without a breakdown of when exactly the money was given and how much those amounts were, you really can't say either way.
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