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Re: Good ruling that slows blackmail by local gov't It's already doing that. ATT is the only one dropping Refrigerator sized boxes in yards or "redoing" them for their boxes to sit flat. Cable just uses a small green box a 1/4 the size of ATT. They don't block views they don't look that bad and in some areas cable companies will work with the owner about planting small shrubs and flowers along them as long as they can get into service them.
ATT won't do that. And for redlining ATT and VZ already do that. |
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| said by hottboiinnc:And for redlining ATT and VZ already do that. Care to point to any verifiable evidence to recent (as in the past several years) redlining by either company that is from an independent source and NOT from some party with an agenda, a politician sound byte, or anything from a competing cableco? |
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| Don't have to. Just go check to see which neighborhoods can get U-Verse by the ones who can't. AT&T will tell you what neighborhoods just by entering in your street address. Service by AT&T is subject if they want to give it to you or not. Not that they'll wire the entire town. Everyone on here knows that. and FiOS does the same thing. |
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| reply to hottboiinnc I wouldent call it redlining as much as deploying to areas shown to pay their bills
I've talked to several linemen at at&t that are working on this project, and some of the reasons they arnt going into the "poorer" neighborhoods has nothing to do with redlining. Some have lines so old, that are still lead lined that the electrical resistance involved in sending that much data over the copper would literaly melt the lines. Also back in the DSL deployment days, the guys could rember going into some areas "poorer" that one month they was hooking it up, and the next month or 2 disconnecging bc they dident pay their bills, so at&t isent going to be rushing to roll this out there yet, but they will. |
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| the same thing is redlining. It's still in areas only they believe to make money.
And at$t is too cheap to update those lines in older neighborhoods. And just because someone lives in one of those neighborhoods at$t thinks that they can't pay their bills they should think again. many have cable, internet and generally at least 1 cell phone.
HA! someone from at$t will tell you anything their company tells them to especially when their working. Believe anything you want from them. all a bunch of union assholes that are redlining. you don't see cable doing it. |
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 marigoldsGainfully employed, finallyPremium,MVM join:2002-05-13 Saint Louis, MO kudos:1 | reply to OSUGoose said by OSUGoose:I wouldent call it redlining as much as deploying to areas shown to pay their bills That's exactly what redlining is. Excluding whole neighborhoods based on a credit profile of the neighborhood rather than the credit profile of individuals in the neighborhood. |
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| reply to hottboiinnc Like I said, you can't point to one independent source of evidence. I can't speak for AT&T as the closest franchisee is quite a ways away, but I do have FiOS. Their were the same claims of redlining when it was deployed here. And Verizon did start deploying in some of the better middle class suburbs. But over the months it eventually spread across the entire area servicing everyone within the Verizon footprint of Fort Wayne and New Haven, IN. |
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 dnoyeBFerrous Phallus join:2000-10-09 Southfield, MI | reply to OSUGoose I dont buy it. At least for the North. In the North poor neighborhoods developed where the jobs were. The inner city. Where the jobs were is also where the good infrastructure is.
In my experience this is reflected in DSL CO distances in the city vs suburbs. also, poor people watch cable tv too. cablecos have lots of advanced tech to stop theft in poorer hoods first.
I dont buy that underdeveloped infrastructure argument in Northern cities. -- dnoyeB "Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16
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 | reply to marigolds For most people here, redlining is defined as "They don't offer it in my neighborhood, so clearly they must be doing something nefarious." -- It's a trick. Get an axe. - Ash |
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| reply to dnoyeB I don't either. It's just that ATT doesnt want to offer service beyond what they want to in the areas that the customers do not meet what ATT wants as a customer or credit rating. I have VARDs all around where i live in my area but go down the street a few miles they stop. Why? The neighborhoods do NOT meet what ATT thinks they should as income. But i bet 70% of them have cable since ATT won't deploy DSL to those customers. |
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