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bushleaguer

join:2007-01-22
Gillette, NJ

reply to tew1165
Re: Comcast vs. Verizon FIOS

In my area the local cable company (Patriot Media) sold to Comcast and they recently took over.

I've noticed that when I had Patriot that the HD channels came in on the full screen of our 2 widescreen HD TVs. After a brief dealing with DirecTV (no line of sight after the leaves on the trees came in), we went back to cable, which is now Comcast and I noticed that most of the HD channels are either letterboxed or smaller squares than the screen. Is this what is meant when people say that Comcast's HD channels are more "compressed?"
Or does this have to do with the lack of an HDMI output on the back of Comcast's receiver?


celeritypc
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join:2004-05-15
Caldwell, NJ

said by bushleaguer See Profile :

In my area the local cable company (Patriot Media) sold to Comcast and they recently took over.

I've noticed that when I had Patriot that the HD channels came in on the full screen of our 2 widescreen HD TVs. After a brief dealing with DirecTV (no line of sight after the leaves on the trees came in), we went back to cable, which is now Comcast and I noticed that most of the HD channels are either letterboxed or smaller squares than the screen. Is this what is meant when people say that Comcast's HD channels are more "compressed?"
Or does this have to do with the lack of an HDMI output on the back of Comcast's receiver?
You don't have the box set properly. Turn the box and TV on then turn just the box off. Immediately hit the menu button. You will see the settings menu appear. Change your tv type to 16:9 and set the output to 1080I (or 720p if your tv does not support 1080i). Press menu again, then power.

bushleaguer

join:2007-01-22
Gillette, NJ


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said by celeritypc See Profile :

said by bushleaguer See Profile :

In my area the local cable company (Patriot Media) sold to Comcast and they recently took over.

I've noticed that when I had Patriot that the HD channels came in on the full screen of our 2 widescreen HD TVs. After a brief dealing with DirecTV (no line of sight after the leaves on the trees came in), we went back to cable, which is now Comcast and I noticed that most of the HD channels are either letterboxed or smaller squares than the screen. Is this what is meant when people say that Comcast's HD channels are more "compressed?"
Or does this have to do with the lack of an HDMI output on the back of Comcast's receiver?
You don't have the box set properly. Turn the box and TV on then turn just the box off. Immediately hit the menu button. You will see the settings menu appear. Change your tv type to 16:9 and set the output to 1080I (or 720p if your tv does not support 1080i). Press menu again, then power.
Thanks for the info.

I went to the menu with the box off and it was set as you indicated it should be.

Oh well.


celeritypc
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join:2004-05-15
Caldwell, NJ

said by bushleaguer See Profile :

Thanks for the info.

I went to the menu with the box off and it was set as you indicated it should be.

Oh well.
Well, the next question is if there is no HDMI, are you hooking up with component cables or are you using composite or rf? If you are not using component, then you will not get an HD picture.

bushleaguer

join:2007-01-22
Gillette, NJ

said by celeritypc See Profile :

said by bushleaguer See Profile :

Thanks for the info.

I went to the menu with the box off and it was set as you indicated it should be.

Oh well.
Well, the next question is if there is no HDMI, are you hooking up with component cables or are you using composite or rf? If you are not using component, then you will not get an HD picture.
I'm not fully up on the technical jargon, but I've got my receiver hooked up with the different colored connectors (red, green, and white or whatever it is).
I can tell it's HD - due to the sharpness of the picture. The problem is that it isn't full screen - it is either letterboxed or a small square. I called Comcast tech and they said my TV was defective.


cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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HD Needs to be hooked up with either HDMI / DVI or Component video cables.

Component cables are 5 wires like this:


aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS


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said by cypherstream See Profile :

HD Needs to be hooked up with either HDMI / DVI or Component video cables.

Component cables are 5 wires like this:

A Component connection is three cables, not five.


bicker

join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA
·Verizon FIOS

There is no sure-fire way to explain to someone who isn't technically inclined the difference between component connections and composite connections by the count of the cables, because such folks will often not be able to tell the difference between audio and video connections. I suspect that cyperstream's (very sound) thinking was that if you've got five cables, then you can be sure that you've got a component connection, whereas if you talk about three cables, someone who isn't an expert may think that you mean the red (left audio), blue (right audio), and yellow (composite video).


aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS

said by bicker See Profile :

There is no sure-fire way to explain to someone who isn't technically inclined the difference between component connections and composite connections by the count of the cables, because such folks will often not be able to tell the difference between audio and video connections. I suspect that cyperstream's (very sound) thinking was that if you've got five cables, then you can be sure that you've got a component connection, whereas if you talk about three cables, someone who isn't an expert may think that you mean the red (left audio), blue (right audio), and yellow (composite video).
The picture very cleary shows the colors for the cable and the connection point on the device. Personally I haven't used any video analog connections in 3 years. It's nice to have my 20+ devices connected with one cable that carries both audio and video.

bicker

join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA
HDMI is definitely sweet, but I think it'll be a while before the Average Joe will be using that connection exclusively.


cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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reply to aaronwt
bicker is right.

For the most part, if someone is having issues with their HD hookup, 9 times out of 10 they need the 5 wire hookup anyway. You don't want them posting here "Why don't I have any sound?" do you? I don't think they use an A/V receiver or route digital audio to one if they think 3 cables of Red, Yellow, and White are for HD.

The 5 wire cable package I posted looks exactly like the only type of cable Comcast provides with their HD boxes in our area. And if you want HDMI, your on your own for that one (at least when I was installed).


aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS

said by cypherstream See Profile :

bicker is right.

For the most part, if someone is having issues with their HD hookup, 9 times out of 10 they need the 5 wire hookup anyway. You don't want them posting here "Why don't I have any sound?" do you? I don't think they use an A/V receiver or route digital audio to one if they think 3 cables of Red, Yellow, and White are for HD.

The 5 wire cable package I posted looks exactly like the only type of cable Comcast provides with their HD boxes in our area. And if you want HDMI, your on your own for that one (at least when I was installed).
Comcast had HDMI/DVI cables here. Although I certainly didn't use it.
Even when I used the component connection, I always used the optical or coaxial output for audio. I've been using digital audio capable receivers since 1997.

bushleaguer

join:2007-01-22
Gillette, NJ

reply to cypherstream
said by cypherstream See Profile :

HD Needs to be hooked up with either HDMI / DVI or Component video cables.

Component cables are 5 wires like this:

Thanks. I'll head down to Radio Shack to pick them up.

Unfortunately the installer didn't have any cables, and I only had the HDMI cable. Funny that Comcast bought out our existing, small-fry cable company (Patriot Media) and they had HDMI-capable boxes on hand.


celeritypc
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join:2004-05-15
Caldwell, NJ

said by bushleaguer See Profile :

Unfortunately the installer didn't have any cables, and I only had the HDMI cable. Funny that Comcast bought out our existing, small-fry cable company (Patriot Media) and they had HDMI-capable boxes on hand.
If I'm not mistaken, Pat Media used Motorola boxes as well and when Comcast took over, they are probably using the same inventory Pat Media had. It could be that they ran out of the newer boxes.

bushleaguer

join:2007-01-22
Gillette, NJ

said by celeritypc See Profile :

said by bushleaguer See Profile :

Unfortunately the installer didn't have any cables, and I only had the HDMI cable. Funny that Comcast bought out our existing, small-fry cable company (Patriot Media) and they had HDMI-capable boxes on hand.
If I'm not mistaken, Pat Media used Motorola boxes as well and when Comcast took over, they are probably using the same inventory Pat Media had. It could be that they ran out of the newer boxes.
Yes, Patriot did use Motorola boxes, and they had HDMI connections. I don't know if they are using Patriot Media's old boxes (I don't know why they wouldn't), but the ones I got were Comcast - judging by the stamp on the front and the worn condition of it.

I called about it and they said they were aware of the issue and said every other provider was going through the same problem (I remember reading about Verizon running out of HD boxes early in 2007 but that problem has been resolved). They said there was a "waiting list" for new boxes and they would add my name to it. The way I see it, spending $$ on new hardware is not something that they are going to be anxious to do, as they can't charge more for the new box and would have to raise rates somewhere to make up for the expenditure.


PGHammer

join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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·Comcast

reply to cypherstream
said by cypherstream See Profile :

bicker is right.

For the most part, if someone is having issues with their HD hookup, 9 times out of 10 they need the 5 wire hookup anyway. You don't want them posting here "Why don't I have any sound?" do you? I don't think they use an A/V receiver or route digital audio to one if they think 3 cables of Red, Yellow, and White are for HD.

The 5 wire cable package I posted looks exactly like the only type of cable Comcast provides with their HD boxes in our area. And if you want HDMI, your on your own for that one (at least when I was installed).
That is no longer true, as installers now carry HDMI cables on their trucks, and will supply them. The biggest issue is TVs that only have composite/component (no HDMI).
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