Guspaz
Guspaz
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1 edit | Tomato/MLPPP v2 beta 2 released
Hi,
We've decided to release Tomato/MLPPP v2 beta 2. We're starting a new thread to try to track issues specific to this release, and because we've had so many questions about where to get the latest version (and people seem to keep downloading v1).
Changelog:
v2 beta 1:
- Fixed a bug where the router will not properly handle the primary link going down (unless the secondary link also goes down).
- Fixed a bug where if the primary link is down permanently, the secondary link will never connect. The previous two items sparked a complete re-architecting of how the router manages PPP sessions.
- Add some sort of status reporting for the multilink status
- Fix the issue where occasional IPCP conf request timeouts on connect cause PPPd to hang
- Fix frequent disconnects under moderate to high packetloss conditions
- Investigate PMTU clamping as it relates to reports of slow browsing speed
- Fixed a bug where 3 or more links lock up the router 100% of the time
v2 beta 2:
- Added a whole bunch of additional options (MTU/MSS/MRU/MRRU/etc) to the advanced option page, and moved MTU there. We moved MTU because too many people were messing with it when it should be left on "automatic" for the vast majority of cases.
- Hopefully fixed issues with OpenVPN, Slingbox, and other devices/apps that couldn't connect through Tomato/MLPPP. Tried to fix this by increasing the automatic MTU, MRU, and MRRU, while leaving the MSS settings at the lower settings. This should cause most apps to correctly use the optimal packets, while "dumb" apps that try to send oversized packets will at least succeed via fragmentation.
- Fixed the status page not updating properly when multilink was disabled
Changes currently scheduled for v2 beta 3:
- Change/improve status reporting to be more obvious ("1 of 1 links connected" instead of "Connected 1/1"), and always specify the MLPPP status rather than only when it fails.
- Add support for Acanac and other ISPs that only support MLPPP on some (but not all) of their gateways. This is not difficult to do, and we have a test account from Acanac to work with
- Change official name in webui to Tomato/MLPPP to reflect what we're calling it everywhere else.
Changes currently scheduled for v3:
- Add kernel support for faking a smaller MTU/MRU/etc. while actually allowing oversized (up to 1500b) packets. This will further improve on the previous changes in this area by informing non-TCP applications that do MTU detection of the optimal MTU, but still work with applications that don't or can't detect the MTU.
- Optimize QOS for ATM cell sizes rather than IP packet sizes.
- Add support for overriding user settings after upgrading to a new version. This will remove the requirements for NVRAM resets (or manually fixing broken settings) after flashing.
CRITICAL: It is EXTREMELY important to reset your NVRAM to factory defaults after upgrading from ANY previous version or different firmware, as your router may not connect to the internet until you do so.
At this point, we've built up enough changes that it's no longer practical to list all the things that people need to do to properly avoid an NVRAM reset. Just do it, you'll thank yourself later.
Instructions for use:
1) You can refer to the original mp1 documentation for instructions on installation/upgrading.
2) The UI options have been shuffled about a tad from the original version, but the core stuff is the same; the most important option is still the multilink dropdown. The status reporting stuff is different too. We're going to make it more self-explanatory in beta 3, and v2 final will have new documentation for all this.
3) It is strongly recommended that you leave all MTU/MRU/MRRU/MSS/etc settings on "automatic", as changing them may cause some applications to not work. We got a ton of questions about MTU in the previous versions, but most people really should just leave this on automatic.
I'd also like to announce that we're going to be doing up a web site for Tomato/MLPP, scheduled to launch some time between the release of v2 beta 3 and v3 (probably closer to beta 3, we're not going terribly complex here).
The site will allow users to:
- Find the latest stable/unstable version quickly without reading pages of posts
- Download the firmware without logging into DSLR
- View a list of known issues (and possible workarounds)
- View a list of commonly asked questions/solutions |
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Kareeser
hm?
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Hamilton, ON | Cheers, Guspaz  |
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baymo
join:2007-04-04
2 edits | reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz  :CRITICAL: It is EXTREMELY important to reset your NVRAM to factory defaults after upgrading from ANY previous version or different firmware, as your router may not connect to the internet until you do so. Sorry, but how do you clear NVRAM in tomato? Do i just reset it to factory defaults or do I have to do something else? |
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damir
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join:2003-05-24 | Administration\Configuration\Select --> Erase all.. NVRAM ... |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
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As a bit of an update on where we stand:
- We've got a nice short 6-letter .org domain name for the firmware website. Let me tell you, we were tempted to register mlpppoe.ca, just to poke fun at TSI 
- I'm currently building out a website for that. It'll be a fairly simple deal, just need to put a few more hours work into it. It should nonetheless be a huge improvement over what we have now, with enormously long forum threads around here where we try to deal with all this stuff.
- I've finally notified the author of Tomato as to what we're doing, and to ask him for permission to use CSS/visual styles from the Tomato UI for the site. I'll hold back on posting the URL of our new site until I hear back from him (or if I don't hear back).
- We've got a test account from Acanac for the purpose of adding their style of network setup (many gateways, only one supports MLPPP) to the firmware. That will be in beta 3.
- DSL_Ricer is now working on Beta 3, which we hope will be out soon; it's not a huge set of changes from beta 2.
I'm really looking forward to where this is going. Beta 3 is going to open up the firmware to a whole new ISP (Acanac), and the website is going to be a huge bump up from what we've got now; hopefully we can eliminate a huge portion of the redundant questions and discussion that we're getting about here that could actually be handled by a FAQ.
We'll probably continue using this forum for release notifications and all discussions, it's just that we should really be able to cut down on the volume of discussions by centralizing a lot of the info on this stuff. Exciting! |
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Quake110
join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON | Congrats on getting the beta out. I'm using the firmware with Velcom and will post any difficulty I have with it. |
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JayMan
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Earth | reply to Guspaz
I got the new version running now. Nothing to report so far. |
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vitesse
join:2002-12-17
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- Fix the issue where occasional IPCP conf request timeouts on connect cause PPPd to hang
The only problem I have with version 1 is that the connection goes dead from time to time and I must disconnect and reconnect so it work again. Is that fix this problem? I'm not sure and don't want to change it as I have many configuration as i have 2 audio server 2 web server, 1 ftp server and 1 video server on my network. don't want to restart the configuration unnecessarily.
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DSL_Ricer
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1 edit | said by vitesse :- Fix the issue where occasional IPCP conf request timeouts on connect cause PPPd to hang The only problem I have with version 1 is that the connection goes dead from time to time and I must disconnect and reconnect so it work again. Is that fix this problem?
Yes, although it's not that specific bug you were running into. The IPCP one should only happen for people sharing their login.
said by vitesse :I'm not sure and don't want to change it as I have many configuration as i have 2 audio server 2 web server, 1 ftp server and 1 video server on my network. don't want to restart the configuration unnecessarily. If you don't feel like doing a complete reset you can:
1) Update to -mp2beta2
2) In Advanced->Misc change everything to Automatic, Save
3) In Basic->Networking, set the redial delay to 5, and set the MLPPP value to whatever's desired. Then save. |
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vitesse
join:2002-12-17
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC | thanks for your reply I will give it a try. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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Montreal, QC
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Actually, that issue you're having is a combination of two things. First, the lack of disconnects, which was fixed when we redid how connections are managed. And second, v1 had an issue where not enough LCP echo failures were required to detect a disconnect; a bit of packetloss and the router would figure the connection was down (and then fail to reconnect).
That bug was fixed in beta 1. The relevant entry is "- Fix frequent disconnects under moderate to high packetloss conditions".
Of the two releases (beta 1 and beta 2), obviously beta 1 was the major release. It was the first new version of beta 1. Beta 2 only has some tweaks and bug fixes from there. |
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shopkins
join:2008-05-23
Nepean, ON
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Don't know if this will help but I have just installed the latest beta2 firmware on an ASUS WL500GP. As a newbie to Tomato I can say that it was very painless. Other than a panic when I may have restarted too soon (used the tftp method to install the firmware) it is up an working. I had actually been thinking of using an OS firmware but had an incompatible router (Linksys WRV200).
I am impressed with the work. Will try and report back if I can contribute. I like the device list that is on the status page. Probably basic but I had asked a tech buddy to tell me how to discover what wireless devices were using my network and he was not totally certain how with the old router. I do not need to bug him now !
MLPPP is enabled and speed tests are unchanged. I am using single link, getting 4500/600 or so - what I would expect. I am not downloading any torrents yet but I will try later. |
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WAN123456
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Can you guys add support for multiple modems on the wan port.
I have a switch I have hooked up to both modems and I would prefer to keep the modems just on the wan side.
Right now I have to connect a cable from LAN to wan then connect the modems switch to lan. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | That's impossible to do with PPPoE. No device/software can do that.
You can just use a VLAN to create another WAN port. That's all the WAN port is, after all, one of the switch ports that is on a different VLAN. |
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Radar73
join:2008-01-20
Ajax, ON | reply to Guspaz
Nice speed tests with this build with everything on automatic. A big improvement over beta 1. Well done.
(using single link MLPPP).
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Reimer
join:2006-08-14
Toronto, ON | reply to Guspaz
Is the MTU supposed to be set at 1500 now? Since previously it was set at 1442 for single link.
Or is that what MMS is doing now? |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | Yes. |
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jguy_ca
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join:2008-05-27
Scarborough, ON | reply to Guspaz
Just wonder if the "MLPPP interface" should stick with "vlan1" as the default value or change it? |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | You can technically change it to br0 if would rather plug your modem into your switch instead of the WAN port, but that's not advisable. |
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geminijatt
join:2008-05-10 | reply to Guspaz
will this work on the whr-g125? |
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