Langning
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| Can expired driver license be renewed?
My father who is in his early 70s and rarely drives so when his Massachusetts driver license was up for renewal this February, he bended to my mom who didn't think my father's occasional driving is worth the $40 license renewal fee (good for 5-years). He renewed with a free state photo identification card instead...
I just found this out today (and mad at my parents for not informing me of their decision; I paid for my father's previous renewal fee) and would like like to get my father license back if possible. I will call Mass RMV Monday morning to find out the requirement(s)...
Does anyone here know the answer so when I called RMV, I know what to expect? Technically, my father's license didn't expire; he "terminated" it by willfully opted for the photo id card. Will he be qualified for a renewal or he must file a brand new application? |
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X Man
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| Your answer is at your local DMV, either by phone, online, or in person.
Now, I don't want to be a jerk, because I lost my Father who was 76 a little over a yr ago. But, at some point we all have to give up the keys. Are you sure it's not a reasonable decision that your parents have made together, for whatever reasons? And if it is, why would they need to ask you?
Just curious,
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La Luna
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Why are you mad because he chose to do this? Maybe he doesn't want to drive anymore. If so, there's no point in having a license as long as he got the state ID. |
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cocothebean
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Oops!!! same post as LaLuna!!!
I doubt you can renew a licence forfieted 4 months ago!!!
HYe would most likely have to start at square 1 (written test)
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gatorkram
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In most states you can simply renew up to 1 year after it expires.
Depending on other state laws, a renewal may require an eye test, a written test, and in some cases driving too.
Good luck.
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Langning
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My dad is "young", healthy and fully capable of driving (debatable whether he is a good driver or not). He is very much wanting to keep his driver license. My mom, on the other hand, controls every thing. She made a $$ decision and my father didn't stand up to her... This father's day, I had to slip a $100 bill into his pocket and whispered to him "happy father's day" out of sight of my mom and rest of the family. You can picture my parents' relationship without me telling more.
Back to my original question, I found this on the net and hopefully he can reinstate his license without retaking the written and/or road test.
Car Insurance Question Do you know what the penalty is for operating with an expired license in the state of MA? It expired less than 30 days ago.
In Massachusetts although the Registry of Motor Vehicles mails license renewal forms, you are obligated to renew your driver’s license before the expiration date and to inform the RMV and the U.S. Post Office of any address change.
According to the RMV your Massachusetts driver’s license is valid for 5 years unless it is your first license, which expires on your fifth birthday after the date of issue. You may renew your license up to 1 year before the expiration date. If your license expired more than 4 years ago, you may be required to take a written test and road test.
From the information we could find it appears that the penalty for driving with an expired license is a fine. To be certain though what your penalties will be, if you were ticketed for this law violation, check with the court listed on the citation or the RMV. |
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Hayward
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At that age, and let expired.... likely testing will be required again.
And not speaking to your parent, but all to many auto renewed old folks are the cause of death from inability to any longer drive.
He may be capable stil' but I'd guess testing will be a requirement as it has expired..
And then again was very surprised my father at 91 (again up until then very with it), almost head on'd someone else... he didn't really care he might have died but potentially maybe might have killed a 30 or under year old... from them on he voluntartily stopped driving and became (gladdly) my task to drive him on scheduled weekly errands and appointments.
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Acere
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In my opinion he should be required to do the driving test again.
If he can pass it, then he can go ahead and keep driving.
If he cant pass it, he shouldnt have had his license in the first place.
I dont want to sound like an ass, but I know I probably am.
Just IMHO.
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"You may renew your license up
to one year before the expiration date. If your license expired more than four years ago,
you may be required to take a written and road test."
"To renew your driver’s license, visit any RMV Branch or Limited Service Branch (see
Appendix D for locations and business hours). Each time you renew, you will have to pass
a vision screening test, supply your SSN or updated Social Security Denial Notice (not
more than 30 days old), and pay the renewal fee."
The above excerpt is from the Massachusetts driving manual p35.
It looks like he has 4 years to renew.
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Langning
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| Yes in Massachusetts, one can renew his/her license up to 4 years; I found out this morning.
I brought my dad to the RMV branch office this morning and the receptionist promptly pre-screened us and told us he is OK to renew. But RMV rep couldn't process the renewal application because in the RMV computer, when my father opted the photo ID in Feburary this year, they flagged him "voluntarily gave up his license" due to age/medical reasons. I asked the rep what's the recourse and after she talking to her supervisor, she referred me to contact the Medical Affairs Branch (MAB) of RMV in Boston.
I called the # to the MAB and the lady was quiet pleasant after I stated the mistake (or stupid decision I called), she is sending me a form to be filled out by my dad's doctor to state that "he is physically fit to drive". Then MAB will remove the restriction and restore his license -- no written exam and no road test.
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cowspotter
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| I guess I don't understand why you don't just get your father re-tested. It will only help to ensure that he is safe on the road. It seems like you're trying to take route that causes you the least amount of trouble while providing the lease amount of safeguards for the rest of us on the road. At his age he should be tested anyways. |
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La Luna
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| said by cowspotter  :I guess I don't understand why you don't just get your father re-tested. It will only help to ensure that he is safe on the road. It seems like you're trying to take route that causes you the least amount of trouble while providing the lease amount of safeguards for the rest of us on the road. At his age he should be tested anyways. Well, he didn't really give his license up for "age/medical" reasons, he gave it up because the wife pressured him into saving $40. According to Langning he is fit to drive, and MA does not require him to be re-tested.
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Langning
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said by cowspotter :I guess I don't understand why you don't just get your father re-tested. Despite living in this country for decades, my father never learned English. I couldn't remember what older brother and sister did to get him licensed before and I really don't want to go thru the trouble with written and road tests.
If my father is ever behind the wheel again, he probably be helping me moving my cars in my driveway. Besides, my parents owned only 1 car in their life (a 1984 Chevy Cavalier which became my car while I was in college); he seldom drove the car because public transportation was cheaper in Boston and his employer did pickup/dropoff . I did refresh his driving skill about 5-7 years by having him driving (with me) in my car...
Again, I will use my best judgment when and if I will let my father drive or not (because if he drives again, he will be driving my car). Even if my father doesn't drive again, I still want to reinstate his driving license just to get back at my mom! |
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gatorkram
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Age really isn't any reflection of ability to drive. We all age differently.
My mother, in her early 70s recently drove from Central Florida to Montreal, and back again.
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Smoove910
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| Someone who is 70 should NOT be driving at all. States need to institute once a driver reaches age 65, they need to take a yearly exam.
Tell me, how many old f*ckers do you see on the road that either:
A.) Left turn signal is blinking.... yet there isn't a turn for miles
B.) Cannot see above the steering wheel.
C.) Cause EVERYONE else on the road to be a defensive driver, whether it be from going too slow, too fast, in the middle on the road, etc. My experiences have led me to believe they do more harm than good on the road PERIOD! |
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jadinolf
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| said by Smoove910 :Someone who is 70 should NOT be driving at all. States need to institute once a driver reaches age 65, they need to take a yearly exam. Tell me, how many old f*ckers do you see on the road that either: A.) Left turn signal is blinking.... yet there isn't a turn for miles B.) Cannot see above the steering wheel. C.) Cause EVERYONE else on the road to be a defensive driver, whether it be from going too slow, too fast, in the middle on the road, etc. My experiences have led me to believe they do more harm than good on the road PERIOD! 
That's so funny.
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said by Smoove910 :My experiences have led me to believe they do more harm than good on the road PERIOD! That's funny: I was getting to say the exact same thing about the young, snot-nosed drivers that I seem to encounter regularly. Can't think of any reason why the Loser Cruiser isn't good enough for them to get around on until age 25 or so.
The problem with making snap judgments about who is and is not fit to drive is that you're likely to be wrong. Older drivers have been proven to have better judgment than younger ones (judgment, after all, comes from experience). Younger drivers, on the other hand, have better reflexes.
I wish I was as ready as you are to pronounce older drivers unfit to drive. Personally, I think half the problem with young drivers is the "I'm immortal" attitude that all teens seem to have. And attitudes permeate everything you do.
Unfortunately, it often takes death to prove that you were immortal...up until you died, that is. |
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said by Smoove910 :Someone who is 70 should NOT be driving at all. States need to institute once a driver reaches age 65, they need to take a yearly exam. Tell me, how many old f*ckers do you see on the road that either: A.) Left turn signal is blinking.... yet there isn't a turn for miles B.) Cannot see above the steering wheel. C.) Cause EVERYONE else on the road to be a defensive driver, whether it be from going too slow, too fast, in the middle on the road, etc. My experiences have led me to believe they do more harm than good on the road PERIOD! I am glad the Darwinian laws of natural selection are working well. A far larger percentage of you young whippersnappers kill yourselves (and others) driving stupidly every year than any of us old farts. The more pairs of young ears in a car, the bigger the chance the pair of ears behind the wheel will do something fatally dumb and the gene poll will be relived of the stupid ones.
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I almost missed this one! Pray tell, all you incredible young drivers, tell us why your insurance rates are the highest of all. Is it a conspiracy by the insurance companies? Come on, tell me why auto insurance rates go down as you get older. I guess now the insurance companies just want to lose money as all the older drivers cause mayhem out on the highways. Got some underwriter statistics to show me rather than blowin' all that hot air. This is REALITY, children |
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Well I will not comment on the original question since it has been answered, but I will say this; your family has some serious issues, and if your father never learned English he shouldn't have ever had a drivers license in the first place.
Something else:
Once there is a medical restriction on the license, regardless of how it got there, a doctor must fill out the form stating the person is medically capable of driving, are you sure his doctor is willing to do this ?
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