Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! in Verizon FIOS TV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20719342 en Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:57:55 EDT Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:57:55 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20767864 Mark F : No annoyance here, what I've seen is great. In fact, this Friday at 10, on the SCI FI Channel HD (ch. 680) is the season premier of Stargate: Atlantis.

I know it's very difficult to surf the guide without encountering them, but, for now, I look at all the blank channels with the "channel relocated" message as a reminder of the space they have for new channels.

As for bad reception, catching or not :), I can't help. But, some of the bugs out there may be fixed by the IMG upgrades rumored for the coming months. The favorites issue will hopefully be addressed soon, as well. Mark F]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20767864 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:30:26 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20764681 anon :
said by matcarl See Profile :

I forgot how long they left the vacant channels like that during the last major realignment, it might have been about 2 weeks. It was annoying. ...
For those markets that have not yet received the new HD channels, we would be happy with this kind of "annoyance" :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20764681 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:10:01 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20764644 matcarl : I forgot how long they left the vacant channels like that during the last major realignment, it might have been about 2 weeks. It was annoying. You can let all us know when they take them away. As far as the bad reception, you better call it in before it spreads to the rest of us. I hope that doesn't mean a delay like last year's IMG upgrade :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20764644 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:03:01 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20764620 vw73182 : When the heck are they going to remove the channels that say "this channel has been relocated" Its made my tv viewing painful the last few days along with the fact that the HD channels are skipping now I am becoming rather dissatisfied with the service. I am thankful for the new channels but I don't think I've been able to watch a show on the History channel once all the way through with out the picture and sound messing up. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20764620 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:58:12 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20763797 Mark F : On the FIOS website, I entered our zip code and up came our local channel list for Fort Wayne. Some of the channels (HBO, Cinemax, and others) are listed more than once, but it is more accurate than the pdf linked at the bottom of the page. Even if the printout is 18 pages long. Good thing the Photosmart 8250 is a fast printer.

Then, I'll just use that long list for reference when I print out lists with only the channels we want. I have programs like Works, Word Perfect and Office, and one of those should handle that well. Mark F.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20763797 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:33:55 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757494 matcarl :
said by darcilicious See Profile :

said by Mark F See Profile :

I don't mean the listings, such as what it on right now. I mean a list of channels in their proper location.
Well, the Internet/zap2it.com listing includes (or should) the call station and number... You might have to make your own if what you have isn't working.
That's what I do. I have every station typed in Excel and make my own updates. I know pathetic, but I have the most up to date list :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757494 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:46:14 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757487 darcilicious :
said by Mark F See Profile :

I don't mean the listings, such as what it on right now. I mean a list of channels in their proper location.
Well, the Internet/zap2it.com listing includes (or should) the call station and number... You might have to make your own if what you have isn't working.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20757487 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:43:04 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20756955 Mark F : I don't mean the listings, such as what it on right now. I mean a list of channels in their proper location. The lists that were sent us in the mail, and the pdfs on the FIOS site, are error-ridden.

I just want a fairly accurate, and readable channel list. If that's not possible, then others will be in the same boat when their area gets the new channels. Mark F]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20756955 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:10:01 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20752209 rashid11 : Someone with Tivo S3 - how did the change go ?
Was it completely seamless etc or was manual intervention
reqd ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20752209 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:42:31 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20750032 ohiomark : if you look back a few pages, I have links for the channels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20750032 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:43:49 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20748698 anon : Mark:

Check www.zap2it.com for channel listings. This is what Tivo uses for their lineup's. It is usually very accurate.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20748698 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:14:33 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20747643 Mark F : RFD T is on ch. 247 here in Fort Wayne. Right now there is something on about understanding the behaviour of, and communicating with, horses.

Anyway, I have been unable to find an accurate channel list to print out. Since I have Verizon FIOS Internet with MSN Premium, I can access MSN TV easily, and it seems to have the correct listings for Fort Wayne. But, no printable channel guide that lists all the channels from 2-1951, with a description of what type of programming each channel offers. The list we got in the mail is incorrect, as is the pdfs on the FIOS website. Mark F.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20747643 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:20:01 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20743306 anon : I'm curious if RFD-TV was really added or not. The press release says it was, but the channel lineup PDF does not. Can anyone confirm its addition?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20743306 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:40:41 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20740657 Acerone : So how's everything looking?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20740657 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:05:22 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727707 anon : TBS HD is in the coming soon section]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727707 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:52:14 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727703 ohiomark : Dang, I never really thought of that. True it is only a few more dollars! I might just do that!

And my TV does support component. Sometimes it takes someone else to make you realize the obvious.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727703 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:51:40 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727265 lets456 :
said by Baff See Profile :

From today's press release about Fort Wayne: »newscenter.verizon.com/press-rel···els.html

New Channels Now Available
Animal Planet HD
TLC (The Learning Channel) HD
USA HD
Bravo HD
Outdoor Channel 2 HD
Veria TV
Cinemax West HD
Reelz
Versus/Golf HD
CNBC HD +
RFD TV
WAPA TV
Current TV
SCI FI HD
Weather Channel HD
HBO West HD
Science Channel HD
Univision
Big Ten Network HD
Big Ten Network
Smithsonian Channel HD
History Channel HD

Channels Coming Soon
GMA Pinoy TV
Setanta Sports
ZEE TV
CNN HD TBS HD
Lifetime HD
Showtime West HD
Showtime 2 HD
Starz Kids And Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
Starz Edge HD

Globecast WorldTV International Programming
Kuwait TV (Arabic)
MBT (Arabic)
Public TV of Armenia (Armenian)
BN (Balkan)
NTV Hayat (Balkan)
CTN (Cambodian)
KISB4 - CBS (Korean)
KISB5 - MBN (Korean)
KISB7 - Sky Baduk (Korean)
TVK (Cambodian)
RTPi (Portuguese)
Pro TV (Romanian)
RSC 1 (Romanian)
RTR Planeta (Russian)

They call this "the first in a series of channel additions coming this year", but give no other indication of when the 2nd wave of channels will start. "Series" implies more than 2, so it should be before they finish the 1st wave.
According to the channel line up,Are you saying that we may not not have TBS-HD again for this year's baseball play off games .....again!!!! That better not be the case....I'll be TICKED!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727265 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:33:17 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726992 afiggatt : Looking at the Verizon pr and the other info, my guess is that the "coming soon" HD channels will be added by July 21. Fort Wayne is the testbed roll-out and Verizon is adding a lot of new QAM channels all at once, so the problem is likely technical, not a contract issue. They have to add the channels to the signal path from the Super Head End to the VHO, add channels to guide data, update the channel map & encryption code data, make sure that the QAM channels & signal paths are working at all the COs in the market, and so on. Get the kinks out in the first market, then roll-out the channel line-up overhaul & HD expansion to the next market.

What would be neat is if someone in Fort Wayne with a QAM tuner (capable of going up to ch 135) could provide a summary of what QAM channels they now have. Just a first cut list of the QAM channels, don't try to list all the sub-channels. However, any QAM channel with only 2 sub-channels is likely to be where two of the HD channels are. Up to now, all of the QAM channels have been in the 55 to 126 range with a number of gaps in that set. Have they moved the local digital SD & HD channels from QAM 71-7x? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726992 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:38:34 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726727 anon :
said by FIOS MAN See Profile :

Could it be the second wave will be when NY and Oregon get the new lineup (aprx the same time). I dont think they would send a new channel lineup flyer in the mail to a big market like NY and it be wrong....(Or maybe they would.) I just hope they get there act together by then.
I was thinking the same thing...that some channels will go online at the same time (in other words, what is the second wave for Fort Wayne will be included in the NY update). However, I would also say to never think its a sure thing. It will depend how earlier upgrades go, or perhaps it is a contractual holdup.

For example, I am in the Northern NJ area and we benefitted by not being the first to get the IMG...there were so many problems to iron out. Nonetheless, I received a recorded phone call from Verizon last August notifying me that the new IMG would be installed that month. In actually, it took another six months until it was actually installed!!

In the case of new channels, I think it might be a case of contract details more than technology problems. Or perhaps too many members of their upgrade team are on summer vacation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726727 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:49:10 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726661 Baff :
said by hdsports :

According to the press release you refer to, at least on the HD end, they state that "Verizon Leads the Way With 15 New HD Channels, More to Come in July", so I would guess that would be the timeframe for the second wave.
Oops, I read that, but forgot it by the end of the article.

Their 15 HD doesn't jive with the 21 people here have been talking about. It is today's press release, but who knows when it was actually written, and certainly doesn't seem to have been fact checked.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726661 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:35:08 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726620 FIOS MAN : Could it be the second wave will be when NY and Oregon get the new lineup (aprx the same time). I dont think they would send a new channel lineup flyer in the mail to a big market like NY and it be wrong....(Or maybe they would.) I just hope they get there act together by then. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726620 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:27:17 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726545 anon :
said by Baff See Profile :

From today's press release about Fort Wayne: »newscenter.verizon.com/press-rel···els.html

They call this "the first in a series of channel additions coming this year", but give no other indication of when the 2nd wave of channels will start. "Series" implies more than 2, so it should be before they finish the 1st wave.
According to the press release you refer to, at least on the HD end, they state that "Verizon Leads the Way With 15 New HD Channels, More to Come in July", so I would guess that would be the timeframe for the second wave. On the other hand, they go on about "...The company has now added top college basketball and football action with the Big Ten Network, which will be available in both standard- and high-definition. In addition, Verizon has launched two other new HD sports channels - Versus/Golf Channel, which features live events and original programming from Versus as well as PGA Tour and additional golf coverage..." I see neither in the PDF listing, and I recall Verizon backing away from listing Versus/Golf on their HD addition press releases some time ago. (I just double checked to make sure the press relase date was indeed July 1, 2008!!).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726545 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:09:35 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726379 Calabria : I would say sooner then later,because why would they have the future hd channels in the Fort Wayne IN guide already.V* doesn't work like that,if they didn't know exactly when they were being added they wouldn't be there.We all know V* doesn't supply much info.I think it will be another 3 to 4 weeks.I wouldn't be suprised if they add the other set on Portland Metro OR 7/21.
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9929]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726379 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:34:33 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726282 jwdv22 : I would venture a guess that "Coming Soon" might mean, lets see how this whole roll out thing works. If all goes well with all the systems initial roll-out and all the initial roll-out bugs are worked out, they can simply push-out new channels to everyone a lot easier. So Coming Soon to me means after everyone gets the initial roll-out.

This is all opionon and speculation. You get what you paid for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726282 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:13:53 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726253 UofMiamiGrad :
said by afiggatt See Profile :

Hmm, the "Coming Soon" info is new. So Verizon is not planning to add CNN HD and TBS HD right away, even though they are on the effective June 30 PDF channel line-up? Ok, if I was in Fort Wayne I would wondering what the heck they mean by "soon". Later this week? Next week? In a month?
Well the "soon" was something Dish Network subs were hearing for a long time, months, until they got some new HD last month. Hopefully Verizon's "soon" is not very long, we shall see.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726253 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:08:48 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726050 Baff : From today's press release about Fort Wayne: »newscenter.verizon.com/press-rel···els.html

New Channels Now Available
Animal Planet HD
TLC (The Learning Channel) HD
USA HD
Bravo HD
Outdoor Channel 2 HD
Veria TV
Cinemax West HD
Reelz
Versus/Golf HD
CNBC HD +
RFD TV
WAPA TV
Current TV
SCI FI HD
Weather Channel HD
HBO West HD
Science Channel HD
Univision
Big Ten Network HD
Big Ten Network
Smithsonian Channel HD
History Channel HD

Channels Coming Soon
GMA Pinoy TV
Setanta Sports
ZEE TV
CNN HD TBS HD
Lifetime HD
Showtime West HD
Showtime 2 HD
Starz Kids And Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
Starz Edge HD

Globecast WorldTV International Programming
Kuwait TV (Arabic)
MBT (Arabic)
Public TV of Armenia (Armenian)
BN (Balkan)
NTV Hayat (Balkan)
CTN (Cambodian)
KISB4 - CBS (Korean)
KISB5 - MBN (Korean)
KISB7 - Sky Baduk (Korean)
TVK (Cambodian)
RTPi (Portuguese)
Pro TV (Romanian)
RSC 1 (Romanian)
RTR Planeta (Russian)

They call this "the first in a series of channel additions coming this year", but give no other indication of when the 2nd wave of channels will start. "Series" implies more than 2, so it should be before they finish the 1st wave.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726050 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:40:40 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726039 afiggatt : Hmm, the "Coming Soon" info is new. So Verizon is not planning to add CNN HD and TBS HD right away, even though they are on the effective June 30 PDF channel line-up? Ok, if I was in Fort Wayne I would wondering what the heck they mean by "soon". Later this week? Next week? In a month?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726039 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:39:01 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726021 afiggatt :
said by Webin :

Their HD broadcasting is still a pretty new thing, and has been somewhat shaken up by their sale a few months ago. For each feed (SD and HD), there is one version that goes out nationally to all content providers, which includes the "national" version of Local on the 8's.
The Weather Channel has not been sold yet. It is up for sale and the latest rumors have NBC-Universal as the most likely buyer. There is a lot of information about the build-out of the new HD studio and the conversion schedule in a Weather Channel to Spend $50M on HD thread at avsforum with a recent news release here: »www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···13985924.

Of course, if NBC-Universal buys the Weather Channel, we can expect frequent pop-ups on the screen, large bugs promoting stupid NBC reality shows or the next Olympics.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726021 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:36:36 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725915 UofMiamiGrad : Link to PR with all the channels added & those coming soon.

»money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/art···U097.htm

HD channels listed here only:

Animal Planet HD
Bravo HD
TLC (The Learning Channel) HD
USA HD
Outdoor Channel 2 HD
Cinemax West HD
Versus/Golf HD
CNBC HD+
SCI FI HD
Weather Channel HD
HBO West HD
Science Channel HD
Big Ten Network HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
History Channel HD

Coming Soon

CNN HD
TBS HD
Lifetime HD
Showtime West HD
Showtime 2 HD
Starz Kids and Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
Starz Edge HD]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725915 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:17:55 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725819 JPL :
said by JohnA See Profile :

said by JPL See Profile :

You know, you could opt for the HD DVR now. It's only an extra $3/month, but gives you a couple big advantages
I was considering that JPL, but I like to run 1 TV out of the box outputs. As I understand it HD DVR has no coax out. Means I'd have to make a composite in place after the wire (Y R/W) was run outside, into the attic, into the upstairs room. Can't decide if it's really worth it.
Correct, it doesn't have RF (coax) out, but you can always pick up an RF modulator to convert to coax - they're pretty cheap. Of course there's a draw-back with this solution - you would need the same RCA audio outputs for both TVs. I'm assuming that you're hooked up with RCA audio for TV #1 (with the S-video).

Of course you could buy something like this:

»www.monoprice.com/products/produ···format=2

Basically, you would:

1) Run Component video cables from DVR -> TV #1
2) Use splitter cables (in link), to hook RCA Audio out to both RF Modulator input, and TV audio input.
3) Hook coax going to TV #2 to output on RF modulator.

Of course, if you're running digital audio to a receiver for TV #1, then the setup gets even simpler. You wouldn't need a splitter cable for the audio for TV#2 in that case.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725819 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:04:09 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725743 JohnA :
said by JPL See Profile :

You know, you could opt for the HD DVR now. It's only an extra $3/month, but gives you a couple big advantages
I was considering that JPL, but I like to run 1 TV out of the box outputs. As I understand it HD DVR has no coax out. Means I'd have to make a composite in place after the wire (Y R/W) was run outside, into the attic, into the upstairs room. Can't decide if it's really worth it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725743 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:50:30 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725658 JPL :
said by Webin :

I have a friend at TWC...

Their HD broadcasting is still a pretty new thing, and has been somewhat shaken up by their sale a few months ago. For each feed (SD and HD), there is one version that goes out nationally to all content providers, which includes the "national" version of Local on the 8's. Cable companies who wish to provide local weather data have to install a "Weather Star" at the headend office, which calculates the data to be shown and dubs it over the national feed.

As far as I know (I'll have to check with my friend again), the WeatherStar systems aren't designed to do HD feeds yet, and they are developing a new model that will do 1080i.
That matches what I'd heard about this. When DirecTV first added TWC HD, it had zero HD programming on it. It took some time, and they eventually started adding specials in HD - very slowly. It's going to be some time, I would guess, before we start getting local forecasts in HD. One other solution - go to WS Local for your local forecasts. I can't remember the last time I went to TWC - I'm not a big fan of waiting for the 8's to get my local forecast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725658 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:36:57 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725621 anon : I have a friend at TWC...

Their HD broadcasting is still a pretty new thing, and has been somewhat shaken up by their sale a few months ago. For each feed (SD and HD), there is one version that goes out nationally to all content providers, which includes the "national" version of Local on the 8's. Cable companies who wish to provide local weather data have to install a "Weather Star" at the headend office, which calculates the data to be shown and dubs it over the national feed.

As far as I know (I'll have to check with my friend again), the WeatherStar systems aren't designed to do HD feeds yet, and they are developing a new model that will do 1080i.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725621 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:28:55 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725603 JPL :
said by ohiomark See Profile :

Oh, I'm not. I had alot of discovery shows and that moved to 120. but I'm still happy with it all. I have a SD DVR box thru a S-Video hookup and it is the best clearest picture I've seen with S-Video(being they don't have component on the SD box >:() but I'm content with the picture quality. Someday when I get a HDTV then I'll take the leap to HD.
You know, you could opt for the HD DVR now. It's only an extra $3/month, but gives you a couple big advantages:

1) Double the hard drive space (you'll go from 80 GB to 160 GB).

2) Can use component (sounds like your SD TV supports component).

3) Gives you access to all the HD channels - granted, these will be downrezzed, but there are a couple HD-only channels that you're currently not getting (HD Net, HD Net Movies, UHD, MHD, Smithsonian). Since they don't charge extra for HD, the only price difference would be on the lease price for the box. Of course, you may need to call Verizon to have them turn on your national HD channels (sometimes they don't do that with SD customers).

4) It'll grandfather you in. It seems that Verizon likes to institute pricing changes with grandfathering clauses - e.g. my brother is paying $13/month for his HD DVR (I would be too, except that I got the media manager DVR, the price of which hasn't changed since I signed up). If Verizon starts up an extra pricing tier for HD, or if they raise the price of their HD box, it's likely that, by getting it now, you would be grandfathered into the current pricing.

Once they get the multi-room feed working for HD programming, I'm seriously thinking about upgrading my SD STB to an HD STB - it'll be an extra $5/month for me, but I think it'll be worth it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725603 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:24:36 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725526 ohiomark : Oh, I'm not. I had alot of discovery shows and that moved to 120. but I'm still happy with it all. I have a SD DVR box thru a S-Video hookup and it is the best clearest picture I've seen with S-Video(being they don't have component on the SD box >:() but I'm content with the picture quality. Someday when I get a HDTV then I'll take the leap to HD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725526 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:09:21 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725226 anon :
said by AndyMorrison See Profile :

said by Brad F :

1009 Setanta Sports is not currently showing up. It is in the Pay Per View area though, right? Would it always be there, or just sometimes?
I don't understand why VzB called it pay per view. It's really a subscription channel like the International channels such as RAI and TV5. It costs $14.95 a month but I've never seen Setanta offer channel content via per event pricing to domestic (as opposed to commercial) subscribers. Of course, many years ago they got their start by offering PPV games on BUD to bars and restaurants and I believe they still do that in North America and Europe today.
The area actually says "Pay Per View / Subscription Sports" and Setanta falls into the latter category. And it is a 24/7 service, so it should be available at all times for their subscribers. On Globecast, who specialize in international programming (and where FIOS new international stations are originating from), they list Setanta under Ireland. However, since it is a all-sports English language station, I think it is better that they grouped it with plans such as ESPN Full Court and probably other subscription sports plans as FIOS adds to their lineup in the future.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725226 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:11:18 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725183 Mark F : And, The Weather Channel HD, while looking quite good, doesn't have the "Local On Thr 8s", that is, it doesn't have our local weather conditions and forcasts, like The Weather Channel does on ch. 119. When it's time for the local weather, we get national maps, like a satellite subscriber probably does.

I kind of figured we'd find some little annoyances popping up, and that is one. I guess we could watch TWC in HD, and switch to TWC SD at 8, 18, 28, 38, 48, and 58 minutes past the hour.

So, after all the fuss we've made, we got a couple of new SD channels and a few more HD channels. Not as many additional channels overall, like their letter said we would get. I know that rearranging everything must have been a big feat, but they now have plenty of room for more channels so we wait, untill a message from the top says that they want to share a few scant details with us. Mark F ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725183 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:00:21 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20724784 JPL :
said by ohiomark See Profile :

I don't have HD, just regular, but I'm just psyched The Big Ten network is on there!!! Yeah! OSU!!!

I just got FIOS TV last month and just learned all the channels. Now I have to relearn them all again. Oh yeah, it also messed up my DVR since some of my shows were set to selected channel. What a drag. I redid my entire DVR list.
Actually, since you're not an HD customer, then this change shouldn't be too big of a shake-up for you. The SD channels were spaced out a bit more (news used to start at channel 80, and now it starts at 100), but by and large the ordering remains the same (there is at least one exception that I know of - FNC). About the biggest shape-ups for you would be: a) local subchannels moved from the 800's to the 400s; b) digital music being moved.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20724784 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:47:04 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20724744 JohnA :
said by ohiomark See Profile :

I just got FIOS TV last month and just learned all the channels. Now I have to relearn them all again. Oh yeah, it also messed up my DVR since some of my shows were set to selected channel. What a drag. I redid my entire DVR list.
Don't let it put you off. This is the one big move. In the future they should only need to move 1 or 2 at a time, and not much of that.

I've had satellite for years and could tell at the first look at the channel guide that everything was too tightly clustered to have room for adds. This re-inventing the wheel stuff can be tedious, and we forget when cable and satellite went through all this stuff because they did it more gradually over a lot of years. From an overview perspective, Verizon is handling this all pretty well, given the individual, CO, VHO, system wide learning curves that they are subject to.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20724744 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:33:11 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20724264 Mark F : I finally found our local doppler radar channel in the guide. The guide has a lot of blank channels (where it says channel so and so has been moved to such and such), so there is room for lots more channels. whenever Verizon can add them. And, there are a lot of coming soon channels, many due by the end of 2007. Verizon time, I guess. Still, despite these little quirks, the guide functions well (except for things like the sparse program info) and another guide update is due later this summer, I believe.

Now, the Fort Wayne pdf definitely has channels listed that weren't included in this update/upgrade. The other link to the Fort Wayne lineup is more or less correct, if a little confusing.

First it lists the channels 50 (USA) and up under HD Experience. But, the HD channel numbers start much higher. Then it lists all the channels 50 (USA) and up again onder FIOS Premier. A bit further down is another category called FIOS Premier which has only four channels listed- Current TV, Reelz, RFD TV and Golf.

And, Showtime movies are first listed in the same category as Turner Classic Movies, American Movie Classics and Fox Movie Channel. Then, further down, it lists them separately. It lists aLL the HBO channels in three places. It has other channel info that is out of whack, as well.

But, as near as I can figure out, it has the new lineup in there among the jumble of channels. Some folks may be unhappy because of the channels we were supposed to get, but didn't. I'm happy for what we did get, such as SciFi HD, and the expanded guide ready for more channels. It may try the patience of many folks, but more channels are coming. Mark F]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20724264 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:43:41 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20724255 Baff :
said by Tested See Profile :

Oddly when I go to the exact same url you have on this page, I do not see anything other than Fort Wayne and Oregon on the new lineup list. I've reloaded the page and it still does not show up.
You won't be able to see the other lineup pdfs until Verizon updates all their web servers, which could be hours, days, or even weeks. (It has already been several days.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20724255 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:37:05 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723958 Tested : I'm glad you posted this picture.

Oddly when I go to the exact same url you have on this page, I do not see anything other than Fort Wayne and Oregon on the new lineup list. I've reloaded the page and it still does not show up.

Go figure.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723958 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:04:28 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723945 ohiomark : Sorry to keep posting over and over, but here is the PDF.

»www22.verizon.com/NROneRetail/NR···3008.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723945 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:00:14 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723934 ohiomark : also here is a full list of fort wayne new channel lineup.
»www22.verizon.com/Content/FiOSTV···%20WAYNE]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723934 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:57:32 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723854 ohiomark : I don't have HD, just regular, but I'm just psyched The Big Ten network is on there!!! Yeah! OSU!!!

I just got FIOS TV last month and just learned all the channels. Now I have to relearn them all again. Oh yeah, it also messed up my DVR since some of my shows were set to selected channel. What a drag. I redid my entire DVR list.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723854 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:36:22 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723625 anon :
said by Brad F :

1009 Setanta Sports is not currently showing up. It is in the Pay Per View area though, right? Would it always be there, or just sometimes?
I don't understand why VzB called it pay per view. It's really a subscription channel like the International channels such as RAI and TV5. It costs $14.95 a month but I've never seen Setanta offer channel content via per event pricing to domestic (as opposed to commercial) subscribers. Of course, many years ago they got their start by offering PPV games on BUD to bars and restaurants and I believe they still do that in North America and Europe today.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723625 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:37:23 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723590 anon :
said by Mark F See Profile :

Ch. 1009 says wrestling is in progress.
That doesn't sound right, Setanta has never broadcast wrestling as far as I know. The schedule for today has a mixture of soccer and rugby.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723590 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:31:03 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723329 afiggatt :
said by Brad F :

Interesting channels that are on the guide line-up in Fort Wayne that didn't make it to the actual system are:

TBS HD
ESPN NEWS HD
CNN HD
MSNBC HD
LIFETIME WEST HD (Who gives a rats arse?)
Lifetime HD (Who gives a poo?)
Mojo HD
I think we need to wait a couple more days to see what gets added. TBS-HD, CNN-HD, Lifetime HD are still on the PDF channel lists, so they are good bets to get added soon. MSNBC-HD does not yet exist, so no surprise that it is not there. Mojo was dropped from the PDF lists, so there might have been a contract issue or Verizon is not ready to get the channel.

You may not give a poo about Lifetime HD, nor is this a channel I'm going to watch, but Lifetime is one of the most popular cable networks, usually in the top 5 or 10 cable nets. USA is usually the #1 cable net. If Verizon is going to add the HD version of cable channels, makes sense to give priority to the most watched cable networks. Top 20 prime-time cable networks for a week in June: »tvbythenumbers.com/2008/06/24/we···-22/4234.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723329 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:37:49 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723270 afiggatt :
said by RKO 316 See Profile :

I got off the phone with one of the people from Verizon, asking about the digital number they gave us here in MD.
And she said that we won't be getting the HD Channels until late November or early December here in Maryland.
Why do people pay much attention to what the CSRs say about future plans and schedules? If they knew what was going on, they would not be answering the phone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723270 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:25:21 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723216 Mark F : Ch. 1009 says wrestling is in progress.

But, the guide is littered with "Coming Soon" messages. TBS HD was on the channel list sent to us, and on the pdf on the FIOS website. But, the guide says coming in December 2007. In fact a number of HD channels that should be there aren't. The guide shows that 805 is Showtime HD, 840 is Starz HD, and 885 is The Movie Channel HD. The other movie channels that should be there aren't there yet. The only news channels are CNBC on 602 and TWC on 519. Thankfully, there is SciFi HD on 680, as Stargate: Atlantis starts it's new season July 11. There are other HD channels, mostly those that FIOS already had. Clicking on a channel that isn't there just brings up an error message.

It seems neither the channel listing I have by the living room TV or the one on the FIOS TV site are all that correct. I'll check for more discrepencies and inaccuracies and post more later.

But, it is nice that when you click on a channel, it tells you what channel is there and where to find the channel that used to be there. But, many channels that we all thought would be there just aren't. Not yet, anyway. And, I won't waste my time trying to find a news item that tells why. Mark F.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20723216 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:12:36 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722934 anon : 1009 Setanta Sports is not currently showing up. It is in the Pay Per View area though, right? Would it always be there, or just sometimes?

And Yes...sorry...IMG is where all of those channels were this AM and the 12 of them vanished when the channels were activated. Sorry about the confusion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722934 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:19:17 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722930 anon : And another question for the Indiana tivo folks:

Did Tivo pick up the new channel changes? Did you have to do a new guided setup?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722930 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:18:25 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722896 anon : I'd love to get the answers to a couple of questions from the lucky Indiana folks. Firstly, did Setanta show up on channel 1009 as expected? Secondly, does anyone have a TiVo with cable card who can confirm the 4 digit channel numbers can be tuned? Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722896 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:13:08 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722682 kes601 : Here's a PDF that I created instead of printing out the page. It will show you what I was describing.
VerizonFiOS TV.pdf
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722682 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:28:21 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722675 darcilicious : Ah, thanks! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722675 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:27:04 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722673 aaronwt :
said by darcilicious See Profile :

any chance you could upload those pdfs to here? many (most?) can't see the new files... even with direct links. they're just not on the servers we're hitting apparently.
I can see them, but it does me no good until the channels show up which probably won't be until late Summer or early Autumn.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722673 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:26:52 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722668 kes601 : Its not the PDFs, its actually the text listing on the page.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722668 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:26:03 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722664 darcilicious : any chance you could upload those pdfs to here? many (most?) can't see the new files... even with direct links. they're just not on the servers we're hitting apparently.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722664 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:25:16 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722631 aaronwt :
said by RKO 316 See Profile :

I got off the phone with one of the people from Verizon, asking about the digital number they gave us here in MD.

And she said that we won't be getting the HD Channels until late November or early December here in Maryland.

I'm freaking pissed!!!!
I wouldn't trust what the CSR says. You could talk to five different CSRs and get five different answers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722631 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:18 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722630 kes601 : They've updated the channel lineup again here:
»www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv···neup.htm

They are now showing the new channels and the old channels and duplicates. Big Ten HD is indeed shown now, however TBS HD is nowhere to be found.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722630 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:19:42 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722580 matcarl : He meant IMG]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722580 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:08:09 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722493 tew1165 : Brad F. when you say the channels you posted above were on the guide lineup but not on the system, did you mean the posted PDF channel guide on the web site or the actual IMG guide on your settop?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722493 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:49:16 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722418 anon : Not sure...what is odd is early this morning, all the channels I listed as not showing up, were on the guide at 5am and 9am before the channels were actually activated. Then when they were activated, those 12 disappeared on the guide and channel locations. Not sure why? Maybe there is a 2 day process. All the other channel location changes took place. Hell, there are channels in the 1000's to 1500 range....Yikes!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722418 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:35:23 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722406 darcilicious : I have to admit I'm totally looking forward to Burn Notice, In Plain Sight, Monk, Psych (all USA) and Eureka (SciFi) in HD by the end of the month (I hope I hope I hope I...)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722406 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:33:13 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722386 kes601 : No TBS HD? Grrr, hope it is there before the MLB playoffs -- or perhaps tomorrow? Is Ft. Wayne a 2 day rollout for the new stations as well?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722386 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:28:23 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722371 anon : I am in Fort Wayne. I don't subscribe to the Sports Pack and I do have the Versus/Golf HD on and it is on channel 590. Outdoor channel HD on 591, however, I can't view it as you must have the Sports Pack for that channel.

Interesting channels that are on the guide line-up in Fort Wayne that didn't make it to the actual system are:

TBS HD
ESPN NEWS HD
CNN HD
MSNBC HD
LIFETIME WEST HD (Who gives a rats arse?)
Lifetime HD (Who gives a poo?)
Mojo HD
Starz Kids and Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
Starz Edge HD
Showtime West HD
Showtime 2 HD

So in Fort Wayne...we now have a total of 39 HD channels.

Bravo HD is a joke. It has been in 4:3 all day today. Smithsonian looks brilliant. USA HD has HD content such as the Law and Order shows and Monk so far. Big Ten HD looks grand, lots of HD tennis, track and field, baseball...can't wait for football and basketball season. Weather Channel is pretty sharp, not like you will watch it that much, what maybe 5 minutes? Science HD has very small cropping bars on sides of screen, ratio is bigger than 4:3 but smaller than 16:9 on some programs..same with TLC HD. Sci Fi HD had some HD content today, most is not. History looks good, mostly HD content. Animal Planet HD looks good. Golf/Versus HD currently is showing old Ryder Cup coverage and it is naturally in 4:3.

All in all, good day in Fort Wayne for Verizon Fios HD. Wonder where the other 12 channels are and if and when they will be added.

Hope all this helps some of you...

Brad in Fort Wayne.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722371 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:24:35 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722351 Calabria :
said by RKO 316 See Profile :

slow VOD.
You think V* vod is slow,try D* :p
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9929]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722351 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:19:18 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722302 RKO 316 : I got off the phone with one of the people from Verizon, asking about the digital number they gave us here in MD.

And she said that we won't be getting the HD Channels until late November or early December here in Maryland.

I'm freaking pissed!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722302 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:09:48 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722286 darcilicious :
said by HDFan :

said by RScottyL See Profile :

From »www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/30/fi···t-wayne/ :

Right on schedule, Verizon's FiOS TV gets with the HD program and over doubles its lineup in at least one market,
Not exactly "right on schedule"...
Okay... right on the most recently released schedule of 6/30 :p ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722286 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:06:04 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722281 anon :
said by RScottyL See Profile :

From »www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/30/fi···t-wayne/ :

Right on schedule, Verizon's FiOS TV gets with the HD program and over doubles its lineup in at least one market,
Not exactly "right on schedule"...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722281 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:04:34 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722097 darcilicious : Providing a direct link to the PDFs doesn't help those that don't see the link right on the website as the website they're hitting doesn't have the link OR the PDF.

You're better off downloading the PDF and then uploading to the forum as someone else in the Channel Realignment thread did -- I just re-posted the link to the version uploaded to this site (not the Vz site).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722097 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:28:40 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722035 gregg62 :
said by mikedz4 See Profile :

they took new jersey and pittsburgh off the list at least on the machine I am looking at. All I see is indiana and oregon am I doing something wrong? Does someone have the new pittsburgh lineup to send me?
At least I know I'm not the only one. The same thing was happening to me this morning. Now that I'm on my home machine, all the lineups are showing again. Really weird.
Anyway, here's the new Pitts lineup:
»www22.verizon.com/NROneRetail/NR···0608.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20722035 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:16:00 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721996 Calabria : darcilicious,how did you get to see that pdf.i can't see it :huh:
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said by mikedz4 See Profile :

they took new jersey and pittsburgh off the list at least on the machine I am looking at. All I see is indiana and oregon am I doing something wrong? Does someone have the new pittsburgh lineup to send me?
Verizon have only put the new line-ups on their east coast server, so many of us can't see them yet. When it comes to Verizon's websites, they show incredible ineptitude. Every single aspect of their websites require their own name/password and most of the features don't work or don't exist.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721992 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:08:44 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721965 darcilicious : »/r0/download/1···0608.pdf is the only one that's been posted to this forum to date...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721965 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:01:38 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721921 mikedz4 : they took new jersey and pittsburgh off the list at least on the machine I am looking at. All I see is indiana and oregon am I doing something wrong? Does someone have the new pittsburgh lineup to send me?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721921 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:52:33 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721920 RScottyL : From »www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/30/fi···t-wayne/ :

Right on schedule, Verizon's FiOS TV gets with the HD program and over doubles its lineup in at least one market, as the lucky devils in Fort Wayne IN get access to 23 new HD channels today. Now usually Verizon likes to roll out national channels nation wide on the same day, but because it is in the middle of shuting off all the analog channels, the lineups are being realigned market by market. Ironically, the new channels seem to be rolling out in the opposite order of the intial Verizon FiOS TV rollout, in which the initial two markets to get the service, are the last to get the upgrade. But even those poor souls in Tampa FL and Keller TX can expect all the HD goodness within the next 60 to 120 days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721920 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:51:50 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721783 Baff :
said by Calabria See Profile :

Isn't TX and FL the last to get the hd rollout?
FL, TX, and then CA is dead last. The actual order may well change, though probably not by much.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721783 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:25:02 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721713 afiggatt :
said by darcilicious See Profile :

Don't forget about OR on 7/21...
My bad. I should have said OR. But the new Oregon line-up was posted back in mid-June, more than 30 days before 7/21. The official established schedule so far, based on what is shown on the Verizon channel line-up page:

6/30 Fort Wayne IN
7/21 Portland OR
7/23 NY
7/30 Northern NJ
8/06 Pittsburgh

Maybe we will see line-ups & dates for several more VHOs posted at the end of the work week, which would be this Thursday? My guess is that Richmond & Norfolk, VA VHO will show up next.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721713 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:10:53 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721676 darcilicious :
said by afiggatt See Profile :

said by Larry NNJ :

Is it at all possible that if everything goes well in Indiana Verizon will move up the dates for adding channels in the other cities? Or is there regulation that prevents this from happening (e.g. 30 day advance notice)?
I think the 30 day advance notice requirement still applies. The advance notice does not apply to adding new channels at unused channel numbers, but for moving channels or for that matter, removing channels.
Just three weeks notice here in OR.

Notice the 3 weeks between Fort Wayne roll-out and NY.
Don't forget about OR on 7/21...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721676 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:00:37 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721624 afiggatt :
said by Larry NNJ :

Is it at all possible that if everything goes well in Indiana Verizon will move up the dates for adding channels in the other cities? Or is there regulation that prevents this from happening (e.g. 30 day advance notice)?
I think the 30 day advance notice requirement still applies. The advance notice does not apply to adding new channels at unused channel numbers, but for moving channels or for that matter, removing channels. This is really a legacy of all analog systems where there is/was no guide data. People might sit down to watch the Home Shopping Network on channel 65 and instead find another another there with no idea where the shopping channel ended up. People taping shows manually with VCRs before they go on vacation would want a lot of advance notice. With digital guides, really don't need 30 days notice, but the rules are still in place.

So, no I would not expect the posted dates on the Fios channel line-up web page to move up. As for why Fort Wayne, IN. It was close to the last VHO to be added; Fort Wayne is DMA #107 in population. Verizon likely has the fewest subscribers there so far among all the VHOs, so as noted, it is a logical guinea pig market. Notice the 3 weeks between Fort Wayne roll-out and NY. Then the channel revamp & HD channel expansion pace speeds up. Need a initial shakedown block to fix problems, make sure all the channels are coming in, make sure the new channel maps are working right, time to refine the procedures for adding a whole bunch of channels at once, AND time to get the CSRs ready with memos/classes to handle a flood of phone calls (well, to the extent that the CSRs will ever be "ready"). Verizon does not appear to be doing a very good job of notifying people, but even they were, there will still be a flood of phone calls from people who can't figure out that their favorite channels have been moved. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721624 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:52:21 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721555 Calabria : engadget has an article on the hd roll out.what I find interesting is the last sentence.Isn't TX and FL the last to get the hd rollout?

»www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/30/fi···t-wayne/
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9929]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721555 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:39:42 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721543 matcarl : Indiana had an analog shutdown process. Pittsburgh didn't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721543 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:36:43 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721467 tew1165 : I think the main reason that Indiana and Oregon are the first for upgrades is that they were the last FIOS systems to be built, and were %100 digital from the beginning. No analog shutdown process to go though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721467 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:23:57 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721435 anon : Is it at all possible that if everything goes well in Indiana Verizon will move up the dates for adding channels in the other cities? Or is there regulation that prevents this from happening (e.g. 30 day advance notice)?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721435 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:17:56 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721350 kes601 :
said by FIOS MAN See Profile :

said by kes601 See Profile :

said by matcarl See Profile :

Why did they start with Indiana? No one wants to answer our questions :)
I guess the couple people who have it there are busy?
I think you answered your own question right there -- start with the smallest subscriber base so that if they screwed anything up it affects the least number of people.
Thats Why NY and CA are always last. Indiana gets to test out the product before we get it! :)
Well, we got to test out the IMG when it first went public, I would be glad to do the same with these channels :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721350 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:59:36 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721300 FIOS MAN :
said by kes601 See Profile :

said by matcarl See Profile :

Why did they start with Indiana? No one wants to answer our questions :)
I guess the couple people who have it there are busy?
I think you answered your own question right there -- start with the smallest subscriber base so that if they screwed anything up it affects the least number of people.
Thats Why NY and CA are always last. Indiana gets to test out the product before we get it! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721300 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:48:45 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721193 kes601 :
said by matcarl See Profile :

Why did they start with Indiana? No one wants to answer our questions :)
I guess the couple people who have it there are busy?
I think you answered your own question right there -- start with the smallest subscriber base so that if they screwed anything up it affects the least number of people.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721193 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:28:13 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721183 matcarl : Why did they start with Indiana? No one wants to answer our questions :)
I guess the couple people who have it there are busy?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721183 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:27:06 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721131 jwdv22 : Also very interested on the Golf/Versus lineup...
I really would like Versus HD without going to the sports package. Can anyone in Fort Wayne confirm that VersusHD isn't part of a sports package?
Glad TBN is back on and NFLNet... VZ came thru woooo hooooo!

also if someone gets a chance, I am curious what happens when you try to tune to any of the "MLB ExtraInnings, or CenterCourt, or NHL's Center"? Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20721131 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:16:13 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720386 JohnA :
What is the fixation with NJ channels in a Fort Wayne thread? Should we really have to plow through all that to see what exactly changed in Ft Wayne, when there are plenty of other threads for that info.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720386 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:54:12 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720312 dimi1963 : I still see NNJ lineup on the site, see attached for screenshot.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720312 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:40:04 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720294 JPL : I know everyone's focused on the new HD channels and all, but I have to ask - are there any new SD channels too? I know they originally had a handful listed, and most of those were pulled in the later listings. But since they added in HD channels that were also pulled off the updated listings (e.g. BTN and Vs.) I figured that maybe they put some of the SD channels back in. Beyond Reelz (which was on the updated list), were there any additional SD channels added?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720294 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:34:59 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720288 Calabria : matcarl,you were close with the hd list,but like i said before nobody really knows but V*.you never know what they are going to do.Looks like the channel line up on there site isn't accurate either(that can be good or bad) :hmm:

At least the release dates are going to be accurate :)
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9929]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720288 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:34:06 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720265 tew1165 : Can somone in Indiana clarify what the deal is with Versus/Golf? Do you have to subscribe to the sports tier that includes the Golf channel in order to recieve this combo HD channel? I do not subscribe to the sports tier but am very interested in getting the HD Versus content. Wondering if I can get VS/Golf HD without subscribing to the extra tier.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720265 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:29:27 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720247 matcarl : There was 21 plus Big Ten & Golf. If none of the others were added that were taken off the list, then it's 23.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720247 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:22:59 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720237 anon : so whats the total they added?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720237 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:21:17 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720092 gocubsgo22 : All channels are now on! Versus is on channel 590.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720092 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:40:40 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720000 afiggatt :
said by gregg62 See Profile :

They took Northern NJ off the website.
I still see Northern NJ with an effective 7/30 date on the website as well. The bottom line is that the long awaited HD expansion has finally begun! Even though it sounds as it is a messy process, but they are using Fort Wayne as the test / shakedown roll-out.

To the 1st post, do not expect MSNBC-HD to be added. It was obviously a mistake in the original new line-up. MSNBC does not have a HD channel yet; they are planning to start up a HD channel early in the 4th quarter, presumably October.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20720000 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:23:45 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719996 gregg62 : Northern NJ is there, but with the Feb 2008 channels.
The only areas I see listed with the new channels
are Fort Wayne and Portland Metro OR.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719996 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:22:50 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719911 matcarl : I still see north Jersey on the website.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719911 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:01:30 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719910 kes601 :
said by gregg62 See Profile :

Glad to see they added Versus/Golf HD.
What channel number is it on? It's still not listed.
They must be still changing the channel listings.
They took Northern NJ off the website.
Maybe they will replace it with Hampton Roads since we were originally that date in matcarl's list ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719910 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:01:27 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719898 gregg62 : Glad to see they added Versus/Golf HD.
What channel number is it on? It's still not listed.
They must be still changing the channel listings.
They took Northern NJ off the website.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719898 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:59:35 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719828 matcarl : So they did add Big Ten & Versus/Golf after they took them off the list. Good.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719828 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:48:19 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719805 gocubsgo22 : Golf channel states a subscription is still needed.

HD channels:

USA
TNT
TBS
Universal
HD Net
ESPN
ESPN2
Fox Sports Indiana
BTN
NFL Network
Versus/Golf
Outdoor
CNN
CNBC
Weather Channel
Discovery Channel
National Geo
Science
Smithsonian
History
Animal Planet
HD Theater
TLC
Lifetime
Food Network
HGTV
Wealth
Sci-Fi
A&E
Bravo
MHD
HD Net Movies

Don't get the premium channels...so not sure on those.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719805 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:42:44 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719551 amarryat :
said by matcarl See Profile :

Can someone without the Sports Pack see if you are getting Golf Channel at its new position of 304? I think they may be giving us that channel now.
I sure hope so. I really miss that after upgrading from Comcast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719551 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:24:19 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719512 matcarl : Can someone without the Sports Pack see if you are getting Golf Channel at its new position of 304? I think they may be giving us that channel now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719512 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:11:36 EDT Re: Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719492 tew1165 : Can someone from Indiana take a couple minutes and make a list of all the new HD channels they're seeing? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719492 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:00:13 EDT Verizon Channels are Here in Fort Wayne! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719342 gocubsgo22 : Channels are showing up as black screens right now, but they are there. When you go to them it actually gives a message that states you are not subscribed to them. I'm guessing they are just not sending a feed through them yet. Good news (at least for us in the midwest) as the Big Ten Network and Versus are there in HD, but ESPNews, MSNBC, MOJO are still not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20719342 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:17:11 EDT