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Re: Get an unlocked iPhone instead,...
said by milnoc  :...Get a decent plan and a cheap phone from another supplier, then switch SIM cards. Is it that simple? We don't have another freakin supplyer !! What Karl forgot to mention is that since 2004, when Robers bought out Microcell/Fido, we now only have 1 (ONE) GSM provider in Canada. This is essentially a MONOPOLY as no sane consumer would ever consider a freedom restricting CDMA provider.
Argh !!!!
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brad
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| said by adisor19 :We don't have another freakin supplyer !! What Karl forgot to mention is that since 2004, when Robers bought out Microcell/Fido, we now only have 1 (ONE) GSM provider in Canada. This is essentially a MONOPOLY as no sane consumer would ever consider a freedom restricting CDMA provider. Argh !!!! Adi I'll consider GSM when there are viable options that do not completely suck. Oh wait, there are none and never have been. Fido was and is complete garbage. |
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| said by brad :said by adisor19 :We don't have another freakin supplyer !! What Karl forgot to mention is that since 2004, when Robers bought out Microcell/Fido, we now only have 1 (ONE) GSM provider in Canada. This is essentially a MONOPOLY as no sane consumer would ever consider a freedom restricting CDMA provider. Argh !!!! Adi I'll consider GSM when there are viable options that do not completely suck. Oh wait, there are none and never have been. Fido was and is complete garbage. WTF !? Fido was garbage ?!! Wow, talk about ignorance.
Fido was the ONLY carrier to offer :
1) CityFido = unlimited local calling for 40$ a month including the SAF !! No other carrier has offered unlimited calls ever since, and this particular plan was instantly killed by Robers as soon as they bought Fido.
2) Unlimited Data for 50$ !! I do mean UNLIMITED DATA here. You could put your SIM card in Any GSM device including DATA cards and enjoy unlimited DATA even in the states for that price. Again, NO carrier has offered something even close to this in Canada with no restrictions like Fido did.
You need to rethink before you spew BS like that again. Fido was the best carrier in Canada. In fact, they were the ONLY GSM carrier long before Robers saw the light and switched to GSM as well.
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brad
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| said by adisor19 :WTF !? Fido was garbage ?!! Wow, talk about ignorance. Fido was the ONLY carrier to offer : 1) CityFido = unlimited local calling for 40$ a month including the SAF !! No other carrier has offered unlimited calls ever since, and this particular plan was instantly killed by Robers as soon as they bought Fido. 2) Unlimited Data for 50$ !! I do mean UNLIMITED DATA here. You could put your SIM card in Any GSM device including DATA cards and enjoy unlimited DATA even in the states for that price. Again, NO carrier has offered something even close to this in Canada with no restrictions like Fido did. You need to rethink before you spew BS like that again. Fido was the best carrier in Canada. In fact, they were the ONLY GSM carrier long before Robers saw the light and switched to GSM as well. Adi Price does not mean anything to me when the phone does not work as the coverage was so shitty outside of the down town area!! I want a cell carrier with a good network, not a notwork. |
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| said by brad :said by adisor19 :WTF !? Fido was garbage ?!! Wow, talk about ignorance. Fido was the ONLY carrier to offer : 1) CityFido = unlimited local calling for 40$ a month including the SAF !! No other carrier has offered unlimited calls ever since, and this particular plan was instantly killed by Robers as soon as they bought Fido. 2) Unlimited Data for 50$ !! I do mean UNLIMITED DATA here. You could put your SIM card in Any GSM device including DATA cards and enjoy unlimited DATA even in the states for that price. Again, NO carrier has offered something even close to this in Canada with no restrictions like Fido did. You need to rethink before you spew BS like that again. Fido was the best carrier in Canada. In fact, they were the ONLY GSM carrier long before Robers saw the light and switched to GSM as well. Adi Price does not mean anything to me when the phone does not work as the coverage was so shitty outside of the down town area!! I want a cell carrier with a good network, not a notwork. I have a hard time believing you. I've been a Fido user for 10 years and I've never had a problem with coverage/bad signal. Hmm, maybe it's the fact that I've always used GOOD phones and not the welfare phones that Fido sold for 0$ (or that they currently sell now for that matter).
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jfmezei
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It is technically false to state we only have one GSM supplier in Canada.
»www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo···ca.shtml
Microcell's network still exists. ( 302-37 ) It is just that very very very few antennas still offer any channels with that network ID. But the Microcell network still exists in tables and roaming systems because Fido still sells ist phones with Fido sim cards with teh Microcell network ID as "home" network. (and a patch to make the Rogers network appears to be "Fido" on the phone.
Icewireless operates un Yukon and Northwest territories. Correction, they don't seem to have presence in Whitehorese anymore.
And Dryden Mobility is about to go live. |
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adisor19
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| said by jfmezei :It is technically false to state we only have one GSM supplier in Canada. » www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo···ca.shtmlMicrocell's network still exists. ( 302-37 ) It is just that very very very few antennas still offer any channels with that network ID. But the Microcell network still exists in tables and roaming systems because Fido still sells ist phones with Fido sim cards with teh Microcell network ID as "home" network. (and a patch to make the Rogers network appears to be "Fido" on the phone. Icewireless operates un Yukon and Northwest territories. Correction, they don't seem to have presence in Whitehorese anymore. And Dryden Mobility is about to go live. Was that a joke in disguise ? The coverage area of those providers is anaemic at best. The sad reality is that we have 1 choice in Canada when it comes to a GSM provider : Robbers.
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Microcell IS Fido, and Fido Solutions is owned by Rogers.
Therefore, there is one GSM supplier in Canada that serves all of the provinces (not territories).
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jfmezei
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>Microcell IS Fido, and Fido Solutions is owned by Rogers.
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>Therefore, there is one GSM supplier in Canada that serves
>all of the provinces (not territories).
There is no debate that Rogers owns the only nationwide GSM network in canada.
However, the 32-37 GSM code for Microcell still exists in worldwide GSM tables, and SIM cards announcing a customer of 32-37 are still issued by Fido. Fido's phones are locked to 32-37 and not to Rogers 32-72 network.
What Fido has done is a hack to make its phones appear to be on their home network when they roam on Rogers. Fido's orginal network was initlally almost all converted to broadcast 32-72 (Rogers), and then Rogers has progressively integrated it into its own network and removed redundant antennas. What is left of Fido would be small test sites.
With regards to the unlocked iPhones. I was not aware that Jobs had insisted that all Iphones had the full software optiosn enabled. I had heard rumblings last year about certain functions having been disabled at the request of AT&T (notably using Skype via wi-fi on the iphone).
However, buying an originally locked iphone still results in problems when upgrading the phone's software, and Apple makes that very clear: you unlock the iphone, and an attempt to upgrade its software may render phone inoperable.
This is why I would rather get a "true" iphone that was never locked and have my onw relationship with Apple instead of having one with Rogers and Fido for the phone.
GSM is meant to have phones independant from the carrier.
Note: I have a never-locked phone. I am a fido subscriber. The phone shows I am *roaming* on Rogers. |
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