| I Support Bell I support Bell and their throttling especially against 3rd party ISP's renting off the Network. These companies are offering Unlimmited bandwidth to their customers. Bell doesn't offer that to their own customers unless your grandfathered. Funny thing happened last week. I went out on a DSL repair. Tek Savvy customer complaining of no sync at the modem. I went out to investigate and he's getting 5meg/800 excellent sync on the line. He then calls his ISP support line and hands the phone to me. I said how long has he been your DSL customer. The guy on the phone says 5 years. I ask have you ever sent him a new modem because it's the modem. No its not theres a problem with the line the guy tells me. I said look my friend Its your companys modem. Send him a new one. Well he'll have to pay 80 dollars for a new modem. I say to the tek savvy guy. Buddy, Bell is providing your customer with 5 megs. Right on the modem it says One meg modem. technology from like 7 years ago. At least if he were Bells customers they'd send him a new modem with the upgrade. The guy asks what company I work for and my ID number. Take a hike I tell the guy. The customer was not impressed and said he'll call Sympatico right away to become a subscriber. The 3rd party ISP's are cheating there customers with yesterdays technology for todays capabilities. All these companys have been ISP's for a few years. Its time they spent some money and got their own Networks and stop renting off of Bells Network. These companys are not ISP's. They are Pirates. So why shouldn't Bell Give the better technology and service to Sympatico subscribers. You get what you pay for going 3rd party. Why buy from the middle man when you can buy from the source. |
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| hahaha I needed a good laugh before I went to bed
Oh and a little correction to your rant buddy, its not bell's network its the people's network. Where do you think bell got the money to build it? duh |
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 HiVoltPremium
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Toronto, ON
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said by Good for Bell :
I went out to investigate and he's getting 5meg/800 excellent sync on the line. He then calls his ISP support line and hands the phone to me. I said how long has he been your DSL customer. The guy on the phone says 5 years. I ask have you ever sent him a new modem because it's the modem. No its not theres a problem with the line the guy tells me. I said look my friend Its your companys modem. Send him a new one. Well he'll have to pay 80 dollars for a new modem. I say to the tek savvy guy. Buddy, Bell is providing your customer with 5 megs. Right on the modem it says One meg modem. technology from like 7 years ago. At least if he were Bells customers they'd send him a new modem with the upgrade. Alright Mr. Repair Tech, lets start poking some holes in your story.
First, the 3rd party ISP's don't use the obsolete Nortel 1 meg modems.
Second, how were you getting a solid 5056/800 sync on a line supposedly provisioned for the old Nortel 1meg modem platform? G.DMT and Nortel line cards can't be used simulatenously.
Third, It's Bell Sympatico who still has people on the old Nortel 1Meg Modem platform, and has not informed them of the technolgy change that happened 5 years ago.
Now, go fly a kite, sir.
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 AngeloThe Network GuyPremium
join:2002-06-18 | lol @ hivolt... i found his story amusing for bed time =p |
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ROFL!! HiVolt You Are tha Man! Way to tell that Bell Shill to stick it where the sun don't shine! - LOL!! |
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| they probably charged him 4$ a month x5 Years for the rental of that Piece of shit too 
80$ sounds like a steal. If my grade 4 arithmetic serves me correctly that would be over 3x as much for inferior hardware |
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 R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON | reply to Good for Bell
said by Good for Bell :
I support Bell and their throttling especially against 3rd party ISP's renting off the Network. These companies are offering Unlimmited bandwidth to their customers. Bell doesn't offer that to their own customers unless your grandfathered. Funny thing happened last week. I went out on a DSL repair. Tek Savvy customer complaining of no sync at the modem. I went out to investigate and he's getting 5meg/800 excellent sync on the line. He then calls his ISP support line and hands the phone to me. I said how long has he been your DSL customer. The guy on the phone says 5 years. I ask have you ever sent him a new modem because it's the modem. No its not theres a problem with the line the guy tells me. I said look my friend Its your companys modem. Send him a new one. Well he'll have to pay 80 dollars for a new modem. I say to the tek savvy guy. Buddy, Bell is providing your customer with 5 megs. Right on the modem it says One meg modem. technology from like 7 years ago. At least if he were Bells customers they'd send him a new modem with the upgrade. The guy asks what company I work for and my ID number. Take a hike I tell the guy. The customer was not impressed and said he'll call Sympatico right away to become a subscriber. The 3rd party ISP's are cheating there customers with yesterdays technology for todays capabilities. All these companys have been ISP's for a few years. Its time they spent some money and got their own Networks and stop renting off of Bells Network. These companys are not ISP's. They are Pirates. So why shouldn't Bell Give the better technology and service to Sympatico subscribers. You get what you pay for going 3rd party. Why buy from the middle man when you can buy from the source.
Are you kidding me!? Hehehehe...
To add to Hivolt's discussion...
1 - We don't sell G.Lite modems... Only G.dmt or higher ones
2 - We don't rent (for eternity) modems, so what the customer bought is theirs to deal with.
3 - We don't rent Bell's network... We bought a segment of our network from a monopoly vendor. They were granted a monopoly and have obligations to share it, so it's not theirs technically.
4 - We kick Bell's ass on all fronts, so to say you get what you pay for is right with us, being as you actually "get" what you pay for... Don't think Bell can say the same! 
5 - Next time you slam a company, get your facts straight, your story verified and for sure make sure you don't go after a company that mops the floor with you on servicing!
Rocky
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 blackzeroPremium
join:2007-08-16
Trois-Rivieres, QC | I agree to you rocky. |
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 Sean
join:2004-01-23
Toronto | reply to Good for Bell
said by Good for Bell :
I support Bell and their throttling especially against 3rd party ISP's renting off the Network. These companies are offering Unlimmited bandwidth to their customers. Bell doesn't offer that to their own customers unless your grandfathered. Funny thing happened last week. I went out on a DSL repair. Tek Savvy customer complaining of no sync at the modem. I went out to investigate and he's getting 5meg/800 excellent sync on the line. He then calls his ISP support line and hands the phone to me. I said how long has he been your DSL customer. The guy on the phone says 5 years. I ask have you ever sent him a new modem because it's the modem. No its not theres a problem with the line the guy tells me. I said look my friend Its your companys modem. Send him a new one. Well he'll have to pay 80 dollars for a new modem. I say to the tek savvy guy. Buddy, Bell is providing your customer with 5 megs. Right on the modem it says One meg modem. technology from like 7 years ago. At least if he were Bells customers they'd send him a new modem with the upgrade. The guy asks what company I work for and my ID number. Take a hike I tell the guy. The customer was not impressed and said he'll call Sympatico right away to become a subscriber. The 3rd party ISP's are cheating there customers with yesterdays technology for todays capabilities. All these companys have been ISP's for a few years. Its time they spent some money and got their own Networks and stop renting off of Bells Network. These companys are not ISP's. They are Pirates. So why shouldn't Bell Give the better technology and service to Sympatico subscribers. You get what you pay for going 3rd party. Why buy from the middle man when you can buy from the source.
Get the fuck out. |
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said by R0CKY:said by Good for Bell :
I support Bell and their throttling especially against 3rd party ISP's renting off the Network. These companies are offering Unlimmited bandwidth to their customers. Bell doesn't offer that to their own customers unless your grandfathered. Funny thing happened last week. I went out on a DSL repair. Tek Savvy customer complaining of no sync at the modem. I went out to investigate and he's getting 5meg/800 excellent sync on the line. He then calls his ISP support line and hands the phone to me. I said how long has he been your DSL customer. The guy on the phone says 5 years. I ask have you ever sent him a new modem because it's the modem. No its not theres a problem with the line the guy tells me. I said look my friend Its your companys modem. Send him a new one. Well he'll have to pay 80 dollars for a new modem. I say to the tek savvy guy. Buddy, Bell is providing your customer with 5 megs. Right on the modem it says One meg modem. technology from like 7 years ago. At least if he were Bells customers they'd send him a new modem with the upgrade. The guy asks what company I work for and my ID number. Take a hike I tell the guy. The customer was not impressed and said he'll call Sympatico right away to become a subscriber. The 3rd party ISP's are cheating there customers with yesterdays technology for todays capabilities. All these companys have been ISP's for a few years. Its time they spent some money and got their own Networks and stop renting off of Bells Network. These companys are not ISP's. They are Pirates. So why shouldn't Bell Give the better technology and service to Sympatico subscribers. You get what you pay for going 3rd party. Why buy from the middle man when you can buy from the source.
Are you kidding me!? Hehehehe... To add to Hivolt's discussion... 1 - We don't sell G.Lite modems... Only G.dmt or higher ones 2 - We don't rent (for eternity) modems, so what the customer bought is theirs to deal with. 3 - We don't rent Bell's network... We bought a segment of our network from a monopoly vendor. They were granted a monopoly and have obligations to share it, so it's not theirs technically. 4 - We kick Bell's ass on all fronts, so to say you get what you pay for is right with us, being as you actually "get" what you pay for... Don't think Bell can say the same! 5 - Next time you slam a company, get your facts straight, your story verified and for sure make sure you don't go after a company that mops the floor with you on servicing! Rocky Well that must have been worth a few laughs.
Man that guy was so way off base its scary or does he work for bell..hmmmmmmm
The rumors iam hearing is bell may have just done that one thing that is going to force the crtc to do something.
Leave it to bell to say the wrong thing at the totally wrong time. |
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 DR_JAY
join:2002-04-23
Verdun, QC | reply to Good for Bell
*laughs hysterically* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA BLARGGHH *barfs up last night's dinner*
Whew, what a laugh.. oh wait...
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
*barfs up dinner two nights ago*
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Bell is an archaic system. They are the ones who have no qualms with sending their customers used modems, for which they pay rental on indefinitely. Modems cost no more than 100 dollars... think about it... how much have you paid in rental fees in a year with bell? It would be great to buy from the source.. if the source werent so intent on screwing its customers every chance it gets... u wanna believe they are looking out for you and not its bottom line... go nuts.. but all they care how they can rip us off more. There are lots of pirates on sympatico... so I wouldnt generalize people, and all bell is doing is punishing the many for the sins of the few so to speak, if you even believe their bs about being congested.... which has been laughed off by many people, but hey ur a bell tech... u have to believe the propoganda they sell you. All I can say is good luck to you sir, and may ur blinders never be removed. |
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