not bad in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20725478 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:48:12 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:48:12 EDT Re: not bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20729058 fiberguy : didn't tell you that you couldn't use it. BUT, you, if I recall, made a statement that it was not a good price at 5 cents a minute.

The problem is that, while it works for you, 3rd rate voip providers are not a reliable service and most Americans aren't using it yet. Cheaper service, cheaper rates.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20729058 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:36:06 EDT Re: not bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20728444 neko :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

...then you go right ahead and enjoy those un-realistic savings. Also enjoy the unreliability and unpredictability of 3rd rate phone carriers.
The savings I get are not unrealistic; they are very real. I also get great service - It's not shoddy, third rate, or poor. It's reliable, good quality & great value for money. I certainly will go right ahead & continue to enjoy the services I use.

There are many people who use Asterisk & enjoy a professional level voice service, with third party VOIP providers. Why shouldn't they have the choice over which company gets their dollars? Would you rather I pay inflated prices from the incumbent ISP's for VOIP service?
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...virtue gives you heraldry.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20728444 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:25:04 EDT Re: not bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20728011 fiberguy : OMG.. I have an opinion that is not popular and I must work for one.

So far I work for Comcast, Cox, Qwest, ATT, Time Warner, and NOW.. drum roll, Verizon.. which of all of those above is my least favorite.

No.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20728011 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:55:54 EDT Re: not bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727894 anon :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

Stop comparing everything to these internet phone companies as they are not in the same league.
You don't work for Verizon, perchance?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727894 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:30:05 EDT Re: not bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727814 fiberguy : Stop comparing everything to these internet phone companies as they are not in the same league. Even Karl needs to stop calling Comcast & Time Warner's phone service "voip phone" because it is to imply that it's the same as Vonage and the rest which are completely a different class of phone service.

I don't agree that it is too expensive at $0.05 cents per minute for an "international" call to another country. If you want to place your entire home phone service in the hand of a company that can't even guarantee your calls can be placed (ie, they have no control over the very conduit in which your phone service is ABLE to exist; the net connection) then you go right ahead and enjoy those un-realistic savings. Also enjoy the unreliability and unpredictability of 3rd rate phone carriers.

It costs real money to provide services. Every day someone or some people post how they get something for little to nothing or want it for little to nothing. Not everything can be cheap or free and actually be expected to last.

If we got everything unrealistically cheap or free, then why work more than an hour a day? Why have a job at all? Why not just collect welfare. Or, is that job we all have so we can have "things" and not worry about the basics in life.

So.. I disagree that it's not good pricing. If you knew much about the reality of international calling prices, then $0.05 per minute is a good price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727814 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:12:22 EDT Re: not bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726024 MadMANN :
said by neko See Profile :

Independant VOIP providers FTW.
As long as you don't mind your calls traveling over the public internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726024 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:36:52 EDT Re: not bad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20725554 neko :
said by BK See Profile :

seems pretty reasonable pricing too
0.05 cents a minute to the UK? No way is that good pricing; I currently pay 0.009 cents per minute. ISP's pricing of VOIP is way too expensive. Independant VOIP providers FTW.
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