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MyDogHsFleas
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join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
kudos:4
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·RoadRunner Cable

reply to Rick

Re: It's so hard to read the words that come..

Yo, Rick, there is one small fact you seem to have overlooked:

AT&T installs in EASEMENTS.

Where they have the RIGHT to install.

Under CONTRACT.

That they have PAID FOR.

And, now, AFTER THE FACT, the homeowners come crying:

YOU BIG BAD AT&T. YOU USED THE EASEMENT THAT YOU BOUGHT!!!

(sorry I couldn't help mocking your style)

What actually happens in cases like this is taxpayers and ratepayers subsidize buying out these whiners, or spending extra money to find other spots for install.

I don't blame AT&T one bit for threatening to pull out. Why should they have to spend more resources than the cable companies to provide service?


Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

One thing you seem to overlook...those easements aren't for them to do whatever they please. They still have to comply with local regulations.

And yeah, if they don't like it, let them take their crappy ball and go home. It's their profit to lose if they're so stupid as to not cooperate with the town that grants them their money tree.

If they were digging a 13' pit in your front yard, you would be singing a different tune.


Austinloop

join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
kudos:1

Before you make a blanket statement concerning what can be done in an easement, one must read the individual easement document to see what is allowed.



Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

Which means they don't get to do whatever they please whenever they please.


Austinloop

join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
kudos:1

And what if the easement states "installation" of communications devices, etc., this would seem to give them the ability to install what they please, whenever they please.



Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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I've only seen a few easement statements and none were that vague. One I saw gave maximum dimensions and color for above ground equipment (this was for the cable company and I saw it when reviewing my closing docs on my house). That isn't to say there isn't such a thing as an easement that says, "Install whatever you want" but I've never seen one.


Austinloop

join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
kudos:1
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

Okay, then, do we know what is stated in the easements in CT. Although from looking at the pictures, these appear to be in public right of way, not easements (at least here), so what does the public right of way rules say? I realize that people complained so an issue was made, but was anything actually violated.

I have seen some that were pretty vague in how they were written and the property owner still signed off on them. They could have got upto a 10 X 20 concrete building in their easement.


premio

join:2002-02-17
Sunnyvale, CA

reply to MyDogHsFleas

said by MyDogHsFleas:

Yo, Rick, there is one small fact you seem to have overlooked:

AT&T installs in EASEMENTS.

Where they have the RIGHT to install.

Under CONTRACT.

That they have PAID FOR.

And, now, AFTER THE FACT, the homeowners come crying:

YOU BIG BAD AT&T. YOU USED THE EASEMENT THAT YOU BOUGHT!!!
It's still god awful ugly. If they put that thing on my California lawn, it would take up my whole yar.

go tune your ukulele.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to MyDogHsFleas
IMHO, a little dialog with the homeowner could go a long way.

Sure, easements exist, but perhaps just talking with the homeowner and working with them when you deploy such boxes could go a long way, methinks.



marigolds
Gainfully employed, finally
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1

reply to Austinloop

said by Austinloop:

Before you make a blanket statement concerning what can be done in an easement, one must read the individual easement document to see what is allowed.
And the relevant franchise agreement that gives access to that easement. For cable companies, these tv franchise agreements spell out in explicit detail when, where, how, and at what size equipment can be placed.
AT&T refuses to be regulated by television franchise agreements, instead relying on less restrictive telephone franchise agreements for access. Unlike tv franchises, telephone franchises do not allow for the insertion of such clauses. They fall under a defined structure that dates back over 80 years and are regulated at the state level and written at the federal level.
The end result is that their use of the easement far exceeds anything authorize by the deed or local ordinance and there is no local control over what they do with that easement until someone stops them in their tracks from abuse phone franchise agreements in this manner.
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