About Nanostation2 in Wireless Service Providers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20726849 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:50:59 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:50:59 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20754352 mtroup : ..or a vacation.. that usually helps my attitude.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20754352 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:03:08 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20754115 LLigetfa : Anger management, political correctness, attitude adjustment, sensitivity training... my company has sent me to all of them. I can say they all worked wonders. I'm a much kinder, gentler person now.

Still, not quite perfect as my boss still gets complaints about my attitude. Might be overdue for a refresher...
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Are we going to send you back for sensitive training again? LOL

J]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20752310 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:20:45 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20752064 superdog :
said by robbin See Profile :

I know you didn't mean this to be insulting to another member but you should realize that margioa See Profile is probably also not a native english speaker. I have no idea if it is any harder for him to post in english than a Turk but your post seems to indicate that he has no problem thinking and posting in english. That is not necessarily the case! ;)
Opps!!!!!. I never thought about that when I posted!. I do know that margioa See Profile uses Spanish as his native tongue, yet since he uses the English language so well, I never thought to add his name and others to that list?.

Please forgive me, as nothing in that paragraph was meant to insult anyone! :uhh:


margioa See Profile and I have exchanged many IM's and I respect both his intelligence AND his use of the English language. In my opinion, margioa See Profile thinks in a normal pattern, or at least has a thought process that needs no explanation, whether it is in Spanish or English. :)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20752064 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:35:34 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20751826 robbin :
said by superdog See Profile :

said by margioa See Profile :

What a thing. When sarpkaya posts his questions or concerns here, I have noticed that there’s always a bunch of members responding and/or participating in his topics. On the other hand, sometimes I have noticed that some of us also need advices or feedback and not much members are participative. However, there are SOME cool guys I recognize and very participative.
One has to realize that that there is a HUGE cultural difference in the way we look at things compared to sarpkaya See Profile . Try to remember that he has to first gather his thoughts in his own language and then transfer those thoughts to this website and do it in English. Very few of us speak more than one language, so for us to chat, it is no big deal.
I know you didn't mean this to be insulting to another member but you should realize that margioa See Profile is probably also not a native english speaker. I have no idea if it is any harder for him to post in english than a Turk but your post seems to indicate that he has no problem thinking and posting in english. That is not necessarily the case! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20751826 Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:43:48 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20734899 mrbueno : The Nanostation is a wireless client that requires no additional hardware. You may add an external antenna to extend your range.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20734899 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:44:33 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731085 sarpkaya : We use Turkish with Latin Alphabetic which doesn't have q,w,x(in official Turkish) but in slang we use x letter as a "ks" letters which pronounce like english 'x' like ekstra, extra. That's shortcut, so pronounce is same but spelling different. We use 'W' letter only WC(in slang). We don't use q.
We have also ý(seems like i),þ(seems like s),ü(seems like u),ð(seems like g),ö(seems like o),ç(seems like c) letters(If you can't see that letters make your character code ISO-8859-9 or win-1254), which some of them can be found in German. Þ pronounces like 'sh' like she.
We read like English. Left to right.

We use closest language with Cypriot Turkish side. Other Turks have different language like Azerbaijan, their language affected a little bit Russian, but our language affected a little bit from Persian and Arabic.

I cannot tell anymore because I know that you can do research from internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731085 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:28:50 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730293 superdog :
said by sarpkaya See Profile :

TR means Turkey not an arabic country state or arabic country.
Please do not take offense to what I posted, as I have no idea what language you use on a daily basis?. What is your native tongue?.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730293 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:22:11 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730230 sarpkaya : TR means Turkey not an arabic country state or arabic country. I'm a bit lazy person, I don't try to explain something, I use rarely "term words", because there are lots of difference between EU and USA, I didn't memorized USA terms and I don't know all of them, like you may not know RIPE.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730230 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:00:57 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730209 superdog :
said by margioa See Profile :

What a thing. When sarpkaya posts his questions or concerns here, I have noticed that there’s always a bunch of members responding and/or participating in his topics. On the other hand, sometimes I have noticed that some of us also need advices or feedback and not much members are participative. However, there are SOME cool guys I recognize and very participative.
One has to realize that that there is a HUGE cultural difference in the way we look at things compared to sarpkaya See Profile . Try to remember that he has to first gather his thoughts in his own language and then transfer those thoughts to this website and do it in English. Very few of us speak more than one language, so for us to chat, it is no big deal. It makes sense to me that sometimes what he asking can come across as odd. I am not sure what his native language is?, Arabic perhaps??. I am hoping this is the reason for some of the strange questions and/or ideas I have seen to this point?. :uhh:
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730209 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:46:11 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20729786 cmaenginsb :
said by margioa See Profile :

What a thing. When sarpkaya posts his questions or concerns here, I have noticed that there’s always a bunch of members responding and/or participating in his topics. On the other hand, sometimes I have noticed that some of us also need advices or feedback and not much members are participative. However, there are SOME cool guys I recognize and very participative.

Note: This is just a simple observation and I’m not trying to point my finger at anyone in specific.
Maybe sarpkaya's questions are easier than those posted by others. I generally try to answer anything I can for any posters.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20729786 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:53:31 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20729784 cmaenginsb :
said by sarpkaya See Profile :

I meant should I use XR2 on base station(transmitter) side where have no NS2(There're sector antennas)
Sorry I misunderstood. You can use pretty much any Wifi/802.11 AP or mini-pci card to connect to it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20729784 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:52:34 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20728270 bzmeteorite :
said by sarpkaya See Profile :

I meant should I use XR2 on base station(transmitter) side where have no NS2(There're sector antennas)
You can use any 802.11b/g (aka "WiFi") compatible AP. That is the whole point of using a 802.11 WiFi CPE.

Although many would say the XR2 is high quality (I am not passing judgment one way or another) and since it is from the same manufacturer, that is the best choice - of course that is entirely up to you and your business plan.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20728270 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:49:48 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727825 sarpkaya : I meant should I use XR2 on base station(transmitter) side where have no NS2(There're sector antennas)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727825 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:13:57 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727805 LLigetfa :
said by sarpkaya See Profile :

But giving same output power in high bandwidth seemed me weird in normal wi-fi.
Around here they call that quality. The amps in cheap consumer routers cannot run the same power in the higher data rates due to EVM and so are throttled back.

Anyway, I wonder if those specs are "antenna adjusted"? The RX specs seem to hint that but then the TX would be weak if that were the case.
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said by sarpkaya See Profile :

You mean it is not a really wi-fi device?
It is a wifi (802.11) device with it's own radio inside so you do not need to use an XR2 card for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727804 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:10:18 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727706 petecarlson : Ok, my turn.

Look at the above specs posted by LLigetfa.

First it lists specs for 802.11b rx and tx.
Next it lists specs for 802.11g rx and tx.

I would guess that the device in question is an 802.11 device with what appear to be quite nice TX and RX numbers for both 802.11b and 802.11g. What clued me in to the fact that it was an 802.11 device was the fact that the spec sheet says it is an 802.11 device. Please note that an 802.11 device is commonly called a "Wi-Fi" device.

I hope this helps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727706 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:52:11 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727583 sarpkaya : You mean it is not a really wi-fi device?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727583 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:30:10 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727478 cmaenginsb :
said by sarpkaya See Profile :

you may just say yes or no.
I red that pdf. But giving same output power in high bandwidth seemed me weird in normal wi-fi. But It seems that is regular wi-fi device. Thnx for everything, would we have to use XR2 for that?
If it already has RF specs then why would you think you need to add an RF card. In short NO!!!!!.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727478 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:12:24 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727018 sarpkaya : you may just say yes or no.
I read that pdf. But giving same output power in high bandwidth seemed me weird in normal wi-fi. But It seems that is regular wi-fi device. Thnx for everything, would we have to use XR2 for that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727018 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:44:56 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727017 LLigetfa :
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20727017 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:44:40 EDT Re: About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726910 sarpkaya : it only says 25mbit+]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726910 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:23:11 EDT About Nanostation2 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726849 sarpkaya : is this item like normal wi-fi device or a device which uses different thing like motorola?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20726849 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:15:06 EDT