Re: Maybe in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20730367 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:20 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:20 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736655 KrK : Absolutely there's something wrong with it. It's in violation of the whole idea of patents.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736655 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:09:49 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735782 aaronwt :
said by KrK See Profile :

said by aaronwt See Profile :

The courts obviously don't agree with your assessment.
The patent court cases rule based on the patents... and therein lies the rub. The problem usually is the patent granted by the patent office. IE a super broad patent often covering obvious technology is granted, and then used by a company to beat others over the head for money.

Happens all the time.
There is nothing at all wrong with that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735782 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:32:05 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735277 KrK :
said by aaronwt See Profile :

The courts obviously don't agree with your assessment.
The patent court cases rule based on the patents... and therein lies the rub. The problem usually is the patent granted by the patent office. IE a super broad patent often covering obvious technology is granted, and then used by a company to beat others over the head for money.

Happens all the time.
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735277 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:06:53 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20734088 aaronwt :
said by KrK See Profile :

said by slomike2 See Profile :

The thing is that after the way they have treated TiVo,
The Tivo lawsuit is BS. The way they've been treated by Tivo is more like it. I applaud them for not just rolling over and like many companies do when faced with extortion.
The courts obviously don't agree with your assessment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20734088 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:39:05 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20732123 KrK :
said by slomike2 See Profile :

The thing is that after the way they have treated TiVo,
The Tivo lawsuit is BS. The way they've been treated by Tivo is more like it. I applaud them for not just rolling over and like many companies do when faced with extortion.
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20732123 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:37:47 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731820 arundc : Yes that maybe the case but I still don't think neither party is ready for negative publicity. I think Tivo could use the customer base that Dish has. Like I said before, highly unlikely they are simply going to disable the DVRs. Check out dbstalk.com for more in depth discussions about this case.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731820 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:49:18 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731762 slomike2 : The thing is that after the way they have treated TiVo, the fees that TiVo may require, may be enough to put Dish out of business. Or at least kill their stock price enough that they will be easily bought. There could also be investor lawsuits about the drop in stock price.

It appears that Dish knew they were violating TiVo patents and just chose to ignore the consequences.

-Mike]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731762 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:37:32 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731656 arundc : Sorry about your experience but I've been with Dish since 2000 and have been very happy. I watch both US and International channels, latter DirecTV can't even compare. Sports is not that important to me. Both Dish and DirecTV have plans starting at 29.99 and I think they're both good. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731656 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:17:17 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731621 arundc : Litigation aside, I think when push comes to shove, Dish may just end up paying up their dues to Tivo or atleast come to a revenue sharing plan. There is no way that they can simply turn off their DVRs. They have too many of them out there and the only and best triple tuners.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731621 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:11:28 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731598 Geminimind : Good I hate dishnetwork they are really nasty I would rather have directv. Dishnetwork is greedy and they cost more than directv too]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731598 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:07:12 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731487 slomike2 : I think that as Dish continues it's decline, it will not be long before DirecTV trys to buy Dish out. This time hopefully the gov wont stop it.

Dish is facing a big problem with the TiVo litigation. They may have to disable all of their DVRs.

-Mike]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731487 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:46:46 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731149 arundc : Actually Dish Network CEO Charlie E. tried to buy out DirecTV and yes the govt. shot it down. Then News Corp jumped in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20731149 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:39:47 EDT Re: Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730367 aaronwt :
said by trebzon See Profile :

I think it was the other way around. DirTV was interested in Dish I thought. Also not good news for Dish but honestly I would still prefer my current Dish to Uverse. Package and hardware options are better.
Didn't they try to merge a few years ago and the government shot it down?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730367 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:46:34 EDT Maybe http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730343 trebzon : I think it was the other way around. DirTV was interested in Dish I thought. Also not good news for Dish but honestly I would still prefer my current Dish to Uverse. Package and hardware options are better.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20730343 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:40:04 EDT