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ncbill
Premium
join:2007-01-23
Winston Salem, NC
Price is still an issue

$39.95 for a YEAR of 150 hours/month dial-up (vtisp.com)

vs.

$10/month for the cheapest broadband in my market:

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)


DOStradamus
MVM
join:2003-11-04
Santa Rosa, CA

said by ncbill See Profile :

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
Actually, it's a $11/month landline. I have one.

It "costs" $5.70 a month, on top of which, about $5 worth of taxes, fees, and unfees are tacked on.

-NK


Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
·Cox HSI
·Verizon FIOS
·Cox VOIP
·ViaTalk
·RoadRunner Cable
·MegaPath
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Time Warner VOIP

reply to ncbill
said by ncbill See Profile :

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
So does dial up.


BSD24
Tier 4
Premium
join:2008-04-30
Middleboro, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to ncbill
said by ncbill See Profile :

$39.95 for a YEAR of 150 hours/month dial-up (vtisp.com)

vs.

$10/month for the cheapest broadband in my market:

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
I doubt you will ever see $39.95 for 1 year of broadband, thats way out of the ballpark. Thats bargain isp, and I think it would be funny to find out how many people have that. Probably less than 19% of the first group. I agree with MattE - a cheaper tier like $10 - $15 per month will bring many customers over who have regular unlimited (dial-up) ISP's like PeoplePC, AOL, Earthlink, etc. DSL was the only one to touch $14.95 - but has risen since, but problem with DSL, not only is it not available in many areas, but many times even if the area is available - only homes and such can make it impossible for the house to receive and use DSL service (just won't work).

My grandmother tried to get DSL back when it was $15/mnth but even when it was active and supposed to be working, no PC (tried 3 different ones from my house besides hers) would get online successfully, verizon couldn't figure it out or just didn't care. So she is still on dialup.

If cable went as low as $19.99 perm price for lower tier I bet I could get my grandmother to switch - $15 would be better though.


Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
·Cox HSI
·Verizon FIOS
·Cox VOIP
·ViaTalk
·RoadRunner Cable
·MegaPath
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Time Warner VOIP

reply to DOStradamus
Depends on your market. Not everyone can get $5.70 basic POTS. In my area it's $10+taxes and fees for a total of about $18.

But you can get away with metered service with DSL. With dialup I'd be paying $18 for unlimited local plus taxes. But even then, POTS plus cheap dial up is less than 1/2 the price of Verizon's cheapest DSL.


AtlGuy

join:2000-10-17
Marietta, GA
reply to DOStradamus
I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone will point it out if I am, but I believe the cost is higher in the AT&T Southeast (former Bellsouth) region.


Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
It depends on your state tariff.


DOStradamus
MVM
join:2003-11-04
Santa Rosa, CA

reply to Dogfather
Seeing that you mentioned Verizon in your second paragraph,
I'll say that the $5 rate + $5 in taxes (sarcasm about "unfees " intended) should be available in at least the CA/NV SBC-(stud)-serviced areas.

Heck, isn't FIOS coming to your Verizon-served SoCal neighborhood "Real Soon Now"?

Up here in Sonoma County (60 Mi North of SFO) there are two companies that provide broadband over a VHF or UHF radio link.

One, Broadlink, has a handful of towers that serve the Central part of the County. A point in their favor, is that they primarily transport Sonic.net ISP services.

The other, RDS (IIRC), is aggressively trying to provide service to every corner of the county where the see a decent potential market. They claim that they also have some 900 MHz hardware that can do 768K symetrical twenty miles or more from their tower.

What I need to do, is get rich enough to order me my very own "big dunb pipe" --- A DS3 with an SLA guaranteeing restoral of service in time to be dealt into the very next hand. I have a process I should be able to patent --

"A procedure for autologous recycling of the by-products resulting from the digital cleaning of the passages that serve olfactory sensors."

I dare anyone to provide the "prior artwork" needed to deny issuance!

-NK


Verizon Vet

@rr.com

reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather See Profile :

Depends on your market. Not everyone can get $5.70 basic POTS. In my area it's $10+taxes and fees for a total of about $18.

But you can get away with metered service with DSL. With dialup I'd be paying $18 for unlimited local plus taxes. But even then, POTS plus cheap dial up is less than 1/2 the price of Verizon's cheapest DSL.
The cheapest POTS line we can get (without the extortive "line insurance" package) now exceeds $20.00 per month with taxes, for measured service. Verizon (GTE) has always been permitted to charge 50-200% more for their services in California. Our city didn't have to "lower" its utility tax either.

Come January 2009, though, all bets are off. We'll probably see these low-end services increase dramatically in price, and various "bundles" we don't want offered in their stead.

We'll be keeping our POTS at almost any price. We have just enough drug dealing, gang shootings, home-invasion type activity on our block to justify the payment for real 911 response.


Ark

join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI
·AT&T Midwest

reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather See Profile :

Depends on your market. Not everyone can get $5.70 basic POTS. In my area it's $10+taxes and fees for a total of about $18.

But you can get away with metered service with DSL. With dialup I'd be paying $18 for unlimited local plus taxes. But even then, POTS plus cheap dial up is less than 1/2 the price of Verizon's cheapest DSL.
In Michigan, the cheapest is around $24:

Monthly Service - Jun 10 thru Jul 9
Call Plan 50 13.93
Zone Service 1.69
Federal Access Charge 5.37
Total Monthly Service 20.99

Local Calls
Call Plan 50
2 Call(s) were placed this month
50 Call(s) were allowed

Surcharges and Other Fees
9-1-1 Emergency System
Billed for Ottawa .22
Federal Universal Service Fee .60
Total Surcharges and Other Fees .82

Taxes
Federal at 3% .65
State at 6% 1.31
Total Taxes 1.96

Total Plans and Services 23.77


Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
reply to DOStradamus
I have FiOS at my other house in Corona. In Orange County I have Cox (that market it served by AT&T).


insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

reply to ncbill
If a user is on dial-up they would already be paying for a land line. So the land-line price should not be considered an extra fee for someone migrating to dsl from dial-up. If their dial-up was 10 bucks and att has 768k dsl for 10 bucks, the price of either product is the exact same to a dial-up customer.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
reply to Dogfather
Minimum for a POTS like here is around $25.


Geminimind
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA
reply to Ark
att is the cheapest here in Sacramento with the lowest 24.99 and you don't have to have a phone line.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
reply to Dogfather
True - but it doesn't have to be yours.
DSL is tied to a physical line. Dialup can be done anywhere there's a dialtone/jack.
--
Canada = Hollywood North


Mizzat
Will post for thumbs
Premium
join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to ncbill
said by ncbill See Profile :

$39.95 for a YEAR of 150 hours/month dial-up (vtisp.com)

vs.

$10/month for the cheapest broadband in my market:

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
And dial-up doesn't require a land line? You can get the 768 without a line line....


jadinolf
I love you Fred
Premium
join:2005-07-09
Ojai, CA
·DSL EXTREME

reply to ncbill
said by ncbill See Profile :

$39.95 for a YEAR of 150 hours/month dial-up (vtisp.com)

vs.

$10/month for the cheapest broadband in my market:

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
I pay AT&T 5.70 a month for my phone service. Where do you get that outrageous number?
--
This post printed on 100% recycled bytes


Ark

join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI
After taxes/fees, I pay close to $24, and I don't think I can possibly get it any cheaper. Pretty sure that it varies from state to state for whatever reason(s).
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