Time Warner Cable: Caps 'Make Your Internet Experience Better' > Definition of HD?

Definition of HD?

God forbid people actually get video over a video service and stop throwing everything at the internet.

And sure, if you DO want to get 1080p content over the internet, then you ARE using a lot of service... pay for it.

The all you can eat buffet mentality has to come to and end. You can't expect to purchase a residential line at a low price and then stuff everything possible through it.

250 gb caps, while I think they suck ESPECIALLY knowing why those caps are coming in (abusive consumers) those who cry because it's not enough to feed their personal needs is no excuse as to why more should be given.

If you want 1080p movies over the internet, then be prepared to pay for it. It's not the ISP's problem that people want to download movies over it. Maybe there is something to be said about movie rentals or purchases after all.

I'm sorry, we just disagree.

I'll this again and again. Stop signing up new customers, if the 'network' or 'last mile' cannot handle the traffic. For years, all the Cable CO's had due time to plan out, and upgrade all their plants. The problem was, they over-sold their own limits of their network, so we have this 'crunch' now.

So whats the cheapest way to fix this 'problem'? Cap the service, or actually put money into upgrades of plants?

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Haha man your funny it seems to me like we've got another person here who works for a cable co stating junk again. Look bro no one else would say something as dumb as get stop getting content off the web, instead get it from a video service. The web is replacing all those services because it's more efficient. We are already paying for the video, why should we also pay for the connection which we already paid for?

Oh wait that's right, that's because were not getting ripped off ENOUGH yet, i mean come on 500 users per node being sold 15/2 connections with the node capacity of 38/27. Do you understand just HOW bad these overselling's are? Caps are not the solution. Even with cap's if 3 people download at max speed the node is saturated! Now that is the real problem.

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NO, little boy.. it's called the real world - none of what the newest generation understands.
All this "junk" as you call it is economics. I laid out very well why ISPs have to moderate traffic.

People with educations will tell you that all this "junk" is not infinite. There are real costs associated to it.. there are economics behind it that have to come to play, and there are people, like you, who sit back and bitch about paying the actual costs for the service in order to get this content off the internet.

I bet history was NOT your best subject. History will tell you that Rome was not built in a day. The internet as large as this is was also not built in a day. It's easy to arm chair quarterback and say "plan for it".. well, again, you CLEARLY do not understand what it takes to run a system of ANY size.

So really, before you come here with your snide smart ass attitude and your obvious adolescent ramblings, I mean "come one man"... I bet you were one that stomped your feet and threw a tantrum with your mom and dad when ever you didn't get your way.

You also clearly don't know ANYTHING about networking so please don't pretend an try to insult my intelligence while trying to educate me or anyone else about how networks work. I'll give you a VERY simple education - get your head out of the node.. it's not all about the node.

I think you'd get someone here that has more time or patience to give you the information you seek but it's been said here so many times, and no one cares to hear reality that most of us with the real answers don't care. People like you hear what you want to hear and believe what you want to believe... and those that have answers that you don't like "must work for the cable co's... "bro"..

If you upped all cable companies to even what Verizon is doing or even better, what Surewest HAS been doing for years already, you'd STILL have bandwidth issues.

The problem is that people like you sit back and think that networks are built over night and that if someone can think it up and throw it on the internet, that by tomorrow it should be able to handle it.

I'd love to see how your theory of not over selling nodes would work the day YOU called up and wanted service and were told "no - you can't have it.. your node is over sold" you'd be right back here whining like a baby that they need to grow their network as the answer. And, if I recall, Verizon has that very issue with DSL.

Not at all when a node is oversold it's as simple as either a> build a new node so that more user's can get on or b>Get out so someone could replace you like FIOS for instance.

You seem to like odd and often false analogies. No one here is saying that the cable backbone is built in a day, but it's been many many years now and cable is still lagging behind what it could have been if it hadn't been sitting on it's butt soaking in profit's like nothing else.

You are trying to understand why people on here debate against caps? Well I'll tell you why it's because the cable companies listen when people start having the same belief that cable is becoming crap, and it's time to move onto something else. For them the customer is money, and when that money leaves their potential net revenue's you can bet they'll drop caps and figure out a better solution.

If they are having capacity issues scale down the max speed on each person's modem and don't oversell the node to that extend. DSL is going just fine with 0 capacity problems, yet cable which is supposedly better has had capacity problems for years on end.

It seems to me that your the arrogant one that needs to go to college, I'm sorry to say this but anyone that insults someone that many times in a sentence is just some child which doesn't have a proper come back.

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