Re: Price is still an issue in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20736225 en Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:51:35 EDT Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:51:35 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20742543 Ark : After taxes/fees, I pay close to $24, and I don't think I can possibly get it any cheaper. Pretty sure that it varies from state to state for whatever reason(s).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20742543 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:02:51 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20741646 jadinolf :
said by ncbill See Profile :

$39.95 for a YEAR of 150 hours/month dial-up (vtisp.com)

vs.

$10/month for the cheapest broadband in my market:

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
I pay AT&T 5.70 a month for my phone service. Where do you get that outrageous number?
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said by ncbill See Profile :

$39.95 for a YEAR of 150 hours/month dial-up (vtisp.com)

vs.

$10/month for the cheapest broadband in my market:

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
And dial-up doesn't require a land line? You can get the 768 without a line line....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20739245 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:25:31 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20738195 en102 : True - but it doesn't have to be yours.
DSL is tied to a physical line. Dialup can be done anywhere there's a dialtone/jack.
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said by Dogfather See Profile :

Depends on your market. Not everyone can get $5.70 basic POTS. In my area it's $10+taxes and fees for a total of about $18.

But you can get away with metered service with DSL. With dialup I'd be paying $18 for unlimited local plus taxes. But even then, POTS plus cheap dial up is less than 1/2 the price of Verizon's cheapest DSL.
In Michigan, the cheapest is around $24:

Monthly Service - Jun 10 thru Jul 9
Call Plan 50 13.93
Zone Service 1.69
Federal Access Charge 5.37
Total Monthly Service 20.99

Local Calls
Call Plan 50
2 Call(s) were placed this month
50 Call(s) were allowed

Surcharges and Other Fees
9-1-1 Emergency System
Billed for Ottawa .22
Federal Universal Service Fee .60
Total Surcharges and Other Fees .82

Taxes
Federal at 3% .65
State at 6% 1.31
Total Taxes 1.96

Total Plans and Services 23.77]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736922 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:06:08 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736673 anon :
said by Dogfather See Profile :

Depends on your market. Not everyone can get $5.70 basic POTS. In my area it's $10+taxes and fees for a total of about $18.

But you can get away with metered service with DSL. With dialup I'd be paying $18 for unlimited local plus taxes. But even then, POTS plus cheap dial up is less than 1/2 the price of Verizon's cheapest DSL.
The cheapest POTS line we can get (without the extortive "line insurance" package) now exceeds $20.00 per month with taxes, for measured service. Verizon (GTE) has always been permitted to charge 50-200% more for their services in California. Our city didn't have to "lower" its utility tax either.

Come January 2009, though, all bets are off. We'll probably see these low-end services increase dramatically in price, and various "bundles" we don't want offered in their stead.

We'll be keeping our POTS at almost any price. We have just enough drug dealing, gang shootings, home-invasion type activity on our block to justify the payment for real 911 response.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736673 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:12:33 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736454 DOStradamus : Seeing that you mentioned Verizon in your second paragraph,
I'll say that the $5 rate + $5 in taxes (sarcasm about "unfees " intended) should be available in at least the CA/NV SBC-(stud)-serviced areas.

Heck, isn't FIOS coming to your Verizon-served SoCal neighborhood "Real Soon Now"?

Up here in Sonoma County (60 Mi North of SFO) there are two companies that provide broadband over a VHF or UHF radio link.

One, Broadlink, has a handful of towers that serve the Central part of the County. A point in their favor, is that they primarily transport Sonic.net ISP services.

The other, RDS (IIRC), is aggressively trying to provide service to every corner of the county where the see a decent potential market. They claim that they also have some 900 MHz hardware that can do 768K symetrical twenty miles or more from their tower.

What I need to do, is get rich enough to order me my very own "big dunb pipe" --- A DS3 with an SLA guaranteeing restoral of service in time to be dealt into the very next hand. I have a process I should be able to patent --

"A procedure for autologous recycling of the by-products resulting from the digital cleaning of the passages that serve olfactory sensors."

I dare anyone to provide the "prior artwork" needed to deny issuance!

-NK]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736454 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:24:09 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736225 Dogfather : It depends on your state tariff.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20736225 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:35:59 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735996 AtlGuy : I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone will point it out if I am, but I believe the cost is higher in the AT&T Southeast (former Bellsouth) region.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735996 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:35:19 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735981 Dogfather : Depends on your market. Not everyone can get $5.70 basic POTS. In my area it's $10+taxes and fees for a total of about $18.

But you can get away with metered service with DSL. With dialup I'd be paying $18 for unlimited local plus taxes. But even then, POTS plus cheap dial up is less than 1/2 the price of Verizon's cheapest DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735981 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:31:26 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735934 BSD24 :
said by ncbill See Profile :

$39.95 for a YEAR of 150 hours/month dial-up (vtisp.com)

vs.

$10/month for the cheapest broadband in my market:

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
I doubt you will ever see $39.95 for 1 year of broadband, thats way out of the ballpark. Thats bargain isp, and I think it would be funny to find out how many people have that. Probably less than 19% of the first group. I agree with MattE - a cheaper tier like $10 - $15 per month will bring many customers over who have regular unlimited (dial-up) ISP's like PeoplePC, AOL, Earthlink, etc. DSL was the only one to touch $14.95 - but has risen since, but problem with DSL, not only is it not available in many areas, but many times even if the area is available - only homes and such can make it impossible for the house to receive and use DSL service (just won't work).

My grandmother tried to get DSL back when it was $15/mnth but even when it was active and supposed to be working, no PC (tried 3 different ones from my house besides hers) would get online successfully, verizon couldn't figure it out or just didn't care. So she is still on dialup.

If cable went as low as $19.99 perm price for lower tier I bet I could get my grandmother to switch - $15 would be better though. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735934 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:21:11 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735933 Dogfather :
said by ncbill See Profile :

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
So does dial up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735933 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:21:02 EDT Re: Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735932 DOStradamus :
said by ncbill See Profile :

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)
Actually, it's a $11/month landline. I have one.

It "costs" $5.70 a month, on top of which, about $5 worth of taxes, fees, and unfees are tacked on.

-NK]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735932 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:20:25 EDT Price is still an issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735900 ncbill : $39.95 for a YEAR of 150 hours/month dial-up (vtisp.com)

vs.

$10/month for the cheapest broadband in my market:

AT&T 768KB (but that price requires a $30/month landline)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20735900 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:11:38 EDT