Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
1 edit | reply to slimpickinz
Re: Hey Dumb Ass
Yes, I have been to Atlanta during rush hour. And in my limited experience, its for speed AND volume. (You Atlanta drivers are fucking nuts, 4 lanes side by side going 50 bumper to bumper? I was scared shitless the whole time driving there)
Anyway, how does agreeing that someones analogy is better than mine make me a dumbass? I dont agree with his point, just that his analogy fits better.
amiga_boy, I understand your side, and I can see from a business perspective how that way should work, but when looked at from a consumers perspective, it would be like ordering fries from McD's and only getting a half order because everyone else was ordering fries at the time too.
Its just part of the cost of doing business. In an office, you dont always need someone sitting at the desk to answer phones, because the phone doesnt ring constantly, but you pay someone to be there all the time for when the phone does ring.
*EDIT* huge spelling mistakes |
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slimpickinz
join:2003-11-29
Conyers, GA | reply to Boogeyman
If you have ever been in Atlanta during rush hour, the extra lanes are not for speed, but for VOLUME.
And that would apply to the pipe as well. |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
 ·Cox HSI
 ·magicjack.com
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Re: Gluttony?
said by karlmarx  :But we're not ASKING for roads that let you go 160mph. We ARE asking for roads where you can always go 60mph, and if that requires them to upgrade from a 4 lane road to a 12 lane road, well, that's what they should do. Why do they ADVERTISE 160mph, if the only let you do that for 1/2 hour a day? Why do telephone companies advertise that you will reliably get a dial tone (and complete a call) when they know that's not the case when *everybody* tries at the same time?
You're asking for the ISPs to provide capacity which would largely go unused just so they could always meet their advertised rate. Just because you can't accept the idea that they're providing average capacities.
That doesn't sound reasonable to me because, to meet their advertised speed at any time, they'd have a lot of perishable product go unused. That's expensive. If you're willing to pay for it, that's ok.
But, I do agree that if they aren't even trying to tie advertised rates to average usage (and expectations), that's a problem.
Mark |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
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But we're not ASKING for roads that let you go 160mph. We ARE asking for roads where you can always go 60mph, and if that requires them to upgrade from a 4 lane road to a 12 lane road, well, that's what they should do. Why do they ADVERTISE 160mph, if the only let you do that for 1/2 hour a day?
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BIGMIKE
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
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said by Boogeyman :Yes, much better analogy. How much car do you really need?
Do we really need a car with v8 motor that gets 12 mpg? |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to s13
Now you are making perfect sense  |
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j5
@comcast.net | reply to ninjatutle
its not an excuses some people really do that stuff daily |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL | reply to amigo_boy
Yes, much better analogy. |
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s13
join:2007-12-06
USA | reply to ninjatutle
Sure Spack Jarrow |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to s13
Sure Jack Sparrow |
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s13
join:2007-12-06
USA
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Good call Bono, only music pirates and warez d00ds need fast connections. 768k DSL for everyone!
The only thing lame here is your act - notice I didn't say "getting lame," because it has been since day one. |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
·magicjack.com
| reply to Boogeyman
said by Boogeyman :Do we really need a car that can go over 60mph? I mean, for people who dont need to drive on the highway often, why do we need a car that can consistantly hit 60mph? I think the analogy is: Do we really need roads with capacity for 160mph 24x7 when most people are ok driving 60? (And, ok with rush hour traffic slowing things down to 40). If I'm ok with 60, why should I have to pay for expanding a 4-lane highway to a 12-lane for the people who are obsessed with "any speed at any time?"
Mark |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
| reply to ninjatutle
Do we really need a car that can go over 60mph? I mean, for people who dont need to drive on the highway often, why do we need a car that can consistantly hit 60mph?
The point is that the extra speed is available when its needed. I may not patch my windows boxes everyday (though it seems like it some days), but when I have to reformat and reinstall, I'd rather be able to do this in 3hrs as apposed to having to wait for a day off and spend all day doing it.
My pc also doesnt need 4gb of ram all the time, but when I load up Google Earth while browsing in multiple tabs in Opera while streaming some musci from another pc with winamp, my ram usage jumps from 900mb to about 3gb. I dont always need it, but its there when I do. |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to kba4
And you do these patches daily?
The excuses are getting lame. The old patches routine, Linuxes, baby photo's to granny, etc, etc. |
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kba4
join:2001-10-23
Canton, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
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anyone who runs a MS OS or app would surely beg to differ. the last install of xp pro that I did took just 30mins including drivers, etc. but once I got connected to the net boy was I glad to have 15Mbps down- there were hundreds of security patches to download.
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